Ackman losses MILLIONS for his investors. More reasons for Pershing Sq investors to continue to redeem their shares.

May 12-2017-A WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE.  . Here is another  reason to rethink staying with Pershing Sq, for those who have not already redeemed shares.  I wrote  earlier today a article exposing the scam that Billy-boy Ackman and his braindead shills are running. Once again, make careful note of the real innformation that I provide.  I have been predicting this for years and am 100% spot on. Ackman and his  shills are just hyping and degrading Herbalife and are 100% WRONG!!

Not that long ago, Billy Ackman was also very bullish on Borders.  We all remember that right? Ackman put a load of cash into that and lost it all. Sound familiar? Let me ask you, how many Borders stores do you see around now? None. Zero. Zilch. This seems to be a pattern with Ackman. Everything he touches turns to dog poop.

Borders files for bankruptcy

http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/02/16/borders-bankruptcy-blow-to-bill-ackman-bennett-lebow/

I have mentioned in the past how Ackman attempted massive manipulation to make a huge profit (yeah, I know he said he was going to donate it to charity. That has about as much substance as the Clinton’s Foundation) Here is a older video by Jimmy Cramer explaining how manipulation and fomenting in the stock market takes place. Cramer was one of the very best at this. Ackman is one of the very worst. And Cramer never tried to put a innocent company out of business. Ackman did and failed.

 

And here is some more information on Ackman and his evil ways.

2017 will be Ackman and Pershing Squares worst year ever. Remember, I predicted this for the last 2 years in a row and I was spot on. In 2017, we may very well see Pershing Sq. become Gotham Partners II. Same bonehead is running Pershing Sq. That would be ACKMAN! Pershing Sq has been down double digits in both 2015 and 2016. In February, Ackman and his shills were all elated that Ackman was showing a 1%-2% return in 2017, then. And tALking about gains. GAINS??? Take into account that Pershing Sq. investors are down 40% for the prior 2 years. Add in the blipp 1%-2% gain and they are still down -38% over three years.  Even if Perhsing Sq shows a 1%-2% gain in 2017 and that continues, it will take years for Pershing Sq just to break even, let alone show a profit.

Billy Ackman has made a ton of mistakes. Check them out here………

http://www.therealbillackman.com

He has cost his investors millions.

http://www.therealbillackman.com/costly-missteps/

This is from August 31, 2016- Today, Herbalife revealed a brand new, fresh video exposing The  Real Bill Ackman, his many misdeeds, horrible investment decisions and despictable behavior over the years.  This is great news for all Herbalife fans, HLF longs and perhaps will open some eyes to people who glorify Ackman just because he has a 8 figure net worth and a  Harvard Degree.  So some presume that he is infallible. He clearly is not.

The second video is even more hard hitting than the first one. I am sure the Ackman cultists, the Ackmanaholics will not be too happy. Ackman has not been called “A Modern Day PT Barnum” and the “The Worst of Wall Street” for nothing. He is not an investor, he is a reckless gambler who takes inordinate risks and has lost millions for his investors. Those of us who knew Ackman long before the Herbalife saga started already knew this.

Under Ackman’s “leadership” and “management” skills, Gotham Partners imploded for the same reasons that Pershing Sq is imploding right now. Ackman takes inordinate risks and then doubles even triples down on bad investments when wiser minds would move out and move on. Ackman belongs in a casino, not the stock market.

I also recommend discretion when watching CNBC in relation to Ackman. CNBC is to Ackman what CNN is to the Clinton’s. FAKE NEWS.

And by the way, Ackman is a democrat who  has donated millions to their political campaigns. Sen. Markey is close personal friends with Ackman. Of course this is the same Sen. Markey who launched the incredulous FTC investigation on Herbalife 2 years ago which backfired on Ackman. And look who Sen. Markey is good friends with…

A fmr President who was impeached and left the White House in disgrace.  Connect the  dots.

The new videos presented on Herbalife’s http://www.therealbillackman.com  are quite revealing indeed and shows not only how wrong and how frequently wrong Bill Ackman is but also how underhanded he is in his dealings.

And it is not just Herbalife’s opinion. The videos show journalists and writers who know Ackman very well and have attempted to expose Ackman in the past. Their information, unlike what Ackman spills out about Herbalife is accurate, well researched and on point.

Many of us have been asking, practically begging Herbalife to be more proactive on going after Ackman. It appears that now that the FTC fiasco is now over, that Herbalife is doing just that.

A lot of misinformation has been and still being peddled by the Ackmanaholics. In the past, Herbalife was on a gag rule and had no way to react. Now they do and it looks like all holy hell is going to break loose.

As one of the most bullish longs on HLF, I too was dismayed to see Herbalife stand idly by while Ackman and his team of morons hurled false accusation after false accusation after another about Herbalife. Not reacting made Herbalife look weak and foolish and even perhaps guilty of what was being said about them. Even the Ackmanaholics brought this up time after time after time suggesting that if in fact Herbalife was truly innocent, why don’t they fight back or sue. Of course they knew about the gag order and was using this as ammunition to further attack Herbalife and try to add some substance to their lies. And it may have worked for awhile,  but now that is over. The game has changed and I am sure we will hear them barking and complaining because Herbalife had the audacity to defend itself and tell the truth about the fraud Billy Ackman.

As I understand it, the videos that came out on Monday  and today are just the first in a slew that will be released along with more information in print and other media telling the truth about Ackman. If you ask me, this is long overdue and welcomed by the intelligent investment universe.

Herbalife is merely clearing it’s reputation by letting the whole world who may not be tuned in to what Ackman is really all about know about his many failures, misdoings and why he is not a “White Knight” trying to protect the innocent but rather a “Evil One” trying to attack a company which has basically done no wrong.

Herbalife has been around for 37 years and no doubt will be around for another 37 years. Where will Ackman be in 37 years, bankrupt, in jail or deceased???

Herbalife has a proven business model that has been working for over 3 1/2 decades. Sales peaked at $7.8 billion.

FTC RULING REVISITED

On July 15, 2016, the FTC ruled that Herbalife IS NOT A PYRAMID SCHEME.  Yet Ackman and his goons  continue to suggest otherwise. Who do we believe, the FTC or Ackman and his goons? I think the proper answer is obvious. I’ll go with the FTC. Ackman and his goons have not been right even once. There is no reason to believe that their losing record will improve or change anytime in the near or foreseeable future.

Icahn exposed Ackman as a liar

By now everyone knows that Carl Icahn called out Billyboy Ackman on his lies that Icahn was selling shares of HLF. Ackman did this last Tuesday and again on Friday morning and did create a selloff on both occasions. I  believe this falls under the category of stock manipulation and no doubt the SEC will be looking into this. Might we see Billyboy hauled off to prison soon? That would be justice for sure.

Carl Icahn’s purchases of an additional 2.3 million shares of HLF stock has further tightened the “short squeeze” on Billy Ackman 

Wall street has to wonder just how long Billy Ackman can hang on to his failing HLF short play. How much longer can he keep it on life support? We all know that Ackman has been liquidating a lot of investments of late. We all know that Ackman’s Pershing Fund has performed horribly for the past two years trailing not only the S&P 500 but also hedge funds as a whole. Ackman may have had some hits in the past, lately, it has been all misses.  Call it luck or whatever, the Ackman magic is gone. No more hits. Now bare singles with huge misses. The party is over for Ackman. Any real investor can see that.

Ackman’s grip on his very reckless HLF short play is slipping away very quickly. Only a matter of time before he concedes.

LOS ANGELES–(BUSINESS WIRE)–

Global nutrition company Herbalife (HLF) today announced the second in its latest series of videos that showcase observations by the media and other thought leaders about the motives, failed investment strategies and questionable tactics of Bill Ackman. Observers have questioned his scruples and ethics, arguing that he has put his personal agenda ahead of the interests of his investors.

The second video in the series, “Costly Missteps” posted today onTheRealBillAckman.com, includes observations of journalists and others about how Ackman’s “hubris and ego” have cost his investors millions of dollars. Others have commented that to “double down, even triple down on his original poor investment, is ridiculous.” Finally, some have said that Ackman’s investment strategy “is nothing more than gambling.”

“In addition to the investment loss for his investors, Bill Ackman has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on carrying costs, lobbying and public relations. This is real money for his investors who, according to recent media articles, are questioning his investment strategies,” said Alan Hoffman, executive vice president, global corporate affairs, Herbalife.

For four and one half years, Bill Ackman has launched a well-funded, aggressive market manipulation campaign, filled with false statements, to support his reckless $1 billion bet against Herbalife. In addition to the investment loss for his investors, Bill Ackman said his carrying costs were approximately $100 million annually, which when combined with the more than $75 million he has spent on lobbying and public relations, adds up to real money.

Bill Ackman celbrated his birthday on May 11. This means he is one year closer to going to hell for all of his lies and misdeeds. I am sure that satan has a very special place for Ackman.

I hope Ackman maintains his incredibly reckless HLF short position for as long as possible. The longer he stays short, the more money he is going to lose, his credibility which is barely above zero now will drop even more and more and more Pershing Sq investors will redeem their shares with even fewer buying into that perishing fund.

Visit http://www.therealbillackman.com/ to watch the video and learn more about Bill Ackman’s utterly unimpressive record and questionable tactics.

About Herbalife:

Herbalife is a global nutrition company that has been changing people’s lives with great products since 1980. Our nutrition, weight-management, energy and fitness and personal care products are available exclusively to and through dedicated Herbalife independent members in more than 90 countries. We are committed to fighting the worldwide problems of poor nutrition and obesity by offering high-quality products, one-on-one coaching with an Herbalife member and a community that inspires customers to live a healthy, active life.

The company has over 8,000 employees worldwide, and its shares are traded on the New York Stock Exchange (HLF) with net sales of $4.5 billion in 2015. The Herbalife website contains a significant amount of financial and other information about the company athttp://ir.Herbalife.com. The company encourages investors to visit its website from time to time, as information is updated and new information in posted. To learn more, visitHerbalife.com or IAmHerbalife.com.

View source version on businesswire.com:http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160831005399/en/

2017 Expected to be a mega growth year for Herbalife. HLF may go to over $300 in the near future.

May 11, 2017

When Herbalife reported 1st quarter earnings last Thursday, forecasts for 2017 were bullish. The big drop that some irresponsible people were predicting, did not occur. Conference call that followed bellowed much enthusiasm and the market reacted driving HLF up massively in AH trading. HLF was up over $6. The run continued on Friday, Monday and Tuesday.

2017 is going to be a great year for Herbalife indeed. HLF longs have every reason to celebrate and increase their shares. The worst is now over.  At least the bad news.  Ackman’s relentless attacks are willowing in their in their impact.  Few pay attention to him anymore.

However, there is much more to get excited about going forward with Herbalife and this pertains in particular to Hebalife products. Especially their weight loss products which is their signtature line.

It was reported back in 2012 that recovery in health & wellness programs was underway.  It appears as though those predictions were not accurate, they were conservative.

Strong recovery of the global health and wellness market is on the way, with sales recording 6.5% value growth (fixed exchange rates) in 2011.  Products offering specific health benefits, such as fortified/functional, or those renowned for their natural health properties drove value sales, with rates above 7%. Growth was further fuelled by the developments in the emerging markets as China and Brazil alone contributed US$15 billion in new sales that year. Steady real term growth of 7.2% (current prices) is expected to continue to 2017, with global health and wellness sales on the way to hit a record high of US$1 trillion by 2017.

Note that  one of the emerging markets mentioned is China. Herbalife has a huge presence in China. Although this is hardly news,  I do believe that the power of being in China has been and was underestimated. Not  to mention the emphasis on weight loss and wellness worldwide.

HEALTH AND WELLNESS VERSUS NON-HEALTH AND WELLNESS PACKAGED FOOD AND BEVERAGES, RETAIL SALES 2002-2017

 

Source: Euromonitor International

 

TOP 30 HEALTH AND WELLNESS GROWTH MARKETS

Herbalife has presence in all of these countries. Notice that China is #1 and USA is #3. Expect these markets to explode for Herbalife as we move forward.

While some of these stats go back to 2012, it is widely believed that Herbalife has been artificially held back by the Ackman scam, relentless attacks that covered all over the media. The attacks were not just focused on belaboring current and new distributors, but also to deter potential consumers from buying the products.

The fact that the FTC fiasco is now over. That the film mislabeled a documentary which was really a informercial for Ackman, that Ackmans skills and judgement have been seriously questioned and while Herbalife seems to be soaring orbit to orbit in spite of all this,  speaks well for Herbalife. Look for a huge EXPLOSION in Herbalife as we  move through 2017 and beyond.

There is reason to believe that there is lot of held back growth in HLF stock and in Herbalife as a company. With the worst, if not all the bad things now over, now is the time for Herbalife to make a huge run up. If there ever was a time to be long HLF , it is now. I said the same thing back in 2007 and throughout the stock bear market in 2008. I suggested to everyone I knew to buy HLF. Those that did, were rewarded.

OBESITY IS ON THE RISE.

Despite numerous attempts to curb the growing obesity epidemic, the obese and overweight population is on the rise, crossing the 70% benchmark in Mexico, Venezuela, Australia and US (amongst the population aged 15+). Long-term solutions leading to calorie reduction via healthy lifestyle changes rather than short-term diets are becoming a necessity, hugely benefiting global sales of weight management positioned food and beverages, already at a staggering US$149 billion in 2011.

This represents a massive source of new business for Herbalife. There are  more overweight people now around the world than when Herbalife first started in 1980. This equates to MASSIVE MARKET POTENTIAL!

Copycats and competitors don’t cut it.

We have seen the Herbalife copycats out there. Do Vemma and Body By Vi come to mind? Where are they now? While there are imitators and copycats, the johnny come latelies always end up short. They come and they go. Meanwhile Herbalife continues on.

Herbalife has mastered this market for decades. Quality products that offer utility. They work. Plus personal one on one counseling from a wellness coach who offers support. Buy a product in a health food or any store, when does someone from the store call you and offer followup? Answer: NEVER!

One of the biggest issues with people trying to lose weight is that most programs never work. Dieters then get discouraged. Aside from the superiority of the product that Herbalife offers, there is once again the support and motivation from the wellness coach who sees to it that clients actually start the program, stay with it and answer any issues the client may have.

Personalized service is a growing trend especially with weight loss and wellness programs. Herbalife already has this in place.

This is what makes Herbalife  different.

Dieters are getting tired of the typical diets and other programs marketed out there.

For years, Americans cycled through one brand-name diet after another, each promising a sure method to lose weight. Along the way, Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers and Lean Cuisine made fortunes off their low-calorie, low-fat diet programs and products.

But it seems those days are over, according to industry analysts and nutritionists. “Dieting is not a fashionable word these days,” says Susan Roberts, a professor of nutrition and psychiatry at Tufts University. “[Consumers] equate the word diet with deprivation, and they know deprivation doesn’t work.”

Dieters then get discouraged and quit. There are now reports that these traditionally heavily marketed diets and weight loss programs are falling out of favor. Clients become discouraged and disillusioned with non results and deprivation.  They want something that is fun, simple and easy and most importantly…….actually works. That opens the door for Herbalife via wellness coaches and quality programs.

“Consumers are not dieting in the traditional sense anymore – being on programs or buying foods specific to programs,” says Marissa Gilbert, an analyst from Mintel who worked on the report. “And there’s greater societal acceptance of different body sizes.”

That’s really hurt the dieting industry, Gilbert says. From summer 2014 to summer 2015, Lean Cuisine’s frozen meal sales dropped from around $700 million to about $600 million, or about 15 percent. Weight Watchers, Medifast and Jenny Craig have also seen revenues wither over the past few years. Sales of diet pills have dropped 20 percent in the last year, according to the Mintel report.

Roberts says it’s likely because many people who wanted to lose weight tried these diets and programs but weren’t successful. “They’ve tried Weight Watchers and Jenny Craig and books and things of their own design,” she says. “It didn’t work.”

Dieters folly.  But this bodes well for Herbalife. Why? Because Herbalife is different. There is no deprivation. No counting calories. No eating frozen  foods. No going to meetings. It is a natural, healthy program using super foods,  provides optimum nutrition with lower calories. And once again, there is the support of the wellness coach who offers motivation and advice. And lets not forget the Herbalife nutrition clubs.

As Jean Fain, a Harvard Medical School-affiliated psychotherapist and author, has noted, programs like Weight Watchers typically are just “a short-term fix and conditional support for long-standing eating issues” and can even exacerbate them.

With each subsequent failure, people become more skeptical about the products. Some give up on losing weight altogether, Roberts adds.

But many people do still want to lose weight, and increasingly they’re hoping good nutrition and “healthy eating” will get them there, says R.J. Hottovy, a senior equity analyst with market research firm Morningstar. “Consumers are looking for a more holistic, more health and wellness approach,” he says. “The shift in food trends is toward fresher and more natural ingredients.”

Another issue is trying to get good, quality nutrition eating normal foods.  And what really constitutes healthy eating. With Herbalife, you are getting not only a supplement, but also a menu using real foods  guiding the client to use good foods

And while Weight Watchers’ point system emphasizes “natural” fare and home-cooked meals, it’s still manufacturing processed, high-sodium, low-fiber products. It is no secret that sodium is very bad for anyone. Excessive sodium that is and most people are getting far too much sodium in their daily eating.  I’ve never heard of anyone suffering from a   sodium deficiency.

Previously here on twitter and on that ridiculous FAKE NEWS source Seeking alpha, some of those so called “experts” who attack Herbalife actually called  diet soda a “Health Food” hahahahaha. Unfortunately, many people look at diet soda as a safe alternative and drink of choice.  Diet soda is just as bad for you as regular soda. Just less calories. More chemicals. And will ruin your health. Certaintly NOT  a “Health Food”.

What about those prepackaged meals?????

According to Julie Lehman, marketing director for Lean Cuisine, the company, which is owned by Nestle, has put new labels on products that were already cholesterol-free or gluten-free without changing their formulations. “Lean Cuisine is an emblem of the diet culture that we’ve all grown up with. We know that and we want to walk away from that and focus on eating well and eating healthy,” she says. The brand has added “No Preservatives” and “Gluten-Free” and “Non-GMO” labels and a new line of frozen meals, certified organic by the nonprofit Oregon Tilth. “Consumers are demanding some of these things, and we want to offer it to them,” Lehman says.

Roberts is unconvinced. She doesn’t see the products getting any healthier. “They can relabel them, but the meals are not any different. If you open a box of Lean Cuisine or something like that, you’ll see about a quarter cup of veggies in there. Is that an outstandingly healthy meal? By my standards, it’s not.”

People will still be hungry and still feel deprived, and may ultimately not meet weight loss goals, she says. “They’ll give healthy eating a bad name just as they gave dieting a bad name.”

This is the problem with traditional dieting. You reduce calories with real foods, you cut calories and also cut down on nutrition; Even when you choose good foods like veggies, are you getting enough? Hardly. This is why these diets fail . You are hungry. Body is starving. These programs don’t work.  Yet Herbalife succeeds massively.

In 1980, the weight loss industry was only a $17 billion industry. Weight loss has more than tripled in sales since then.  And is one of the only industries that continues to rise.  When Herbalife started in 1980, the company did $2 million in sales. Today Herbalife is generating over $5 billion in annual sales.

The “diet shake” industry was just a baby back then generating $400 million in sales. Today the “diet shake” industry is generating nearly $10 billion in sales and shows no signs of slowing down.

Herbalife owns the top market position for “diet shakes” worldwide.  However, Herbalife offers other supplements to assist with weight loss and as mentioned repeatedly,  offers the unique wellness coaches and nutrition clubs.

Herbalife also offers other programs in wellness, sports supplements, skin care and energy products.

 

Ackmanscam is a HLF long, user of Herbalife products since 2011 and a distributor for Herbalife since 2014. He has been an investor since 1988. Long on HLF since 2007.  He is not an employee for Herbalife. Has no inside information. Just material based on market conditions, economic factors and trends. 

 

Here is why HLF stock may be headed to over $300 a share in the next few years……….

It was reported back in 2012 that recovery in health & wellness programs was underway.  It appears as though those predictions were not accurate, they were conservative.

Strong recovery of the global health and wellness market is on the way, with sales recording 6.5% value growth (fixed exchange rates) in 2011.  Products offering specific health benefits, such as fortified/functional, or those renowned for their natural health properties drove value sales, with rates above 7%. Growth was further fuelled by the developments in the emerging markets as China and Brazil alone contributed US$15 billion in new sales that year. Steady real term growth of 7.2% (current prices) is expected to continue to 2017, with global health and wellness sales on the way to hit a record high of US$1 trillion by 2017.

Note that  one of the emerging markets mentioned is China. Herbalife has a huge presence in China. Although this is hardly news,  I do believe that the power of being in China has been was under estimated. Not mention the emphasis on weight loss and wellness worldwide.

HEALTH AND WELLNESS VERSUS NON-HEALTH AND WELLNESS PACKAGED FOOD AND BEVERAGES, RETAIL SALES 2002-2017

 

Source: Euromonitor International

 

TOP 30 HEALTH AND WELLNESS GROWTH MARKETS

Herbalife has presence in all of these countries. Notice that China is #1 and USA is #3. Expect these markets to explode for Herbalife as we move forward.

While some of these stats go back to 2012, it is widely believed that Herbalife has been artificially held back by the Ackman scam, relentless attacks that covered all over the media. The attacks were not just focused on belaboring current and new distributors, but also to deter potential consumers.

The fact that the FTC fiasco is now over. That the film mislabeled a documentary which was really a informcercial for Ackman, that Ackmans skills and judgement have been seriously questioned and while Herbalife seems to be soaring orbit to orbit in spite of all this, look for a huge EXPLOSION in Herbalife as move through 2017 and beyond.

There is reason to believe that there is lot of held back growth in HLF stock and in Herbalife as a company. With the worst, if not all the bad things now over, now is the time for Herbalife to make a huge run up.

OBESITY IS ON THE RISE.

Despite numerous attempts to curb the growing obesity epidemic, the obese and overweight population is on the rise, crossing the 70% benchmark in Mexico, Venezuela, Australia and US (amongst the population aged 15+). Long-term solutions leading to calorie reduction via healthy lifestyle changes rather than short-term diets are becoming a necessity, hugely benefiting global sales of weight management positioned food and beverages, already at a staggering US$149 billion in 2011.

This represents a massive source of new business for Herbalife. There are  more overweight people now around the world than when Herblaife first started in 1980. MASSIVE MARKET POTENTIAL!

Copycats and competitors don’t cut it.

We have seen the Herbalife copycats out there. Do Vemma and Body By Vi come to mind? Where are they now? While there are imitators and copycats, the johnny come laters always end up short.

Herbalife has mastered this market for decades. Quality products that offer utility. They work. Plus personal one on one counseling from a wellness coach who offers support. Buy a product in a health food or any store, when does someone from the store call you and offer followup? Answer: NEVER!

One of the biggest issues with people trying to lose weight is that most programs never work. Dieters then get discouraged. Aside from the superiority of the product that Herbalife offers, there is once again the support and motivation from the wellness coach who sees to it that clients actually start the program, stay with it and answer any issues the client may have.

This is what makes Herbalife  different.

Dieters are getting tired of the typical diets and other programs marketed out there.

For years, Americans cycled through one brand-name diet after another, each promising a sure method to lose weight. Along the way, Jenny Craig, Weight Watchers and Lean Cuisine made fortunes off their low-calorie, low-fat diet programs and products.

But it seems those days are over, according to industry analysts and nutritionists. “Dieting is not a fashionable word these days,” says Susan Roberts, a professor of nutrition and psychiatry at Tufts University. “[Consumers] equate the word diet with deprivation, and they know deprivation doesn’t work.”

Dieters then get discouraged and quit. There are now reports that these traditionally heavily marketed diets and weight loss programs are falling out of favor. Clients become discouraged and disillusioned with non results and deprivation.  They want something that is fun, simple and easy and most importantly…….actually works. That opens the door for Herbalife via wellness coaches.

“Consumers are not dieting in the traditional sense anymore – being on programs or buying foods specific to programs,” says Marissa Gilbert, an analyst from Mintel who worked on the report. “And there’s greater societal acceptance of different body sizes.”

That’s really hurt the dieting industry, Gilbert says. From summer 2014 to summer 2015, Lean Cuisine’s frozen meal sales dropped from around $700 million to about $600 million, or about 15 percent. Weight Watchers, Medifast and Jenny Craig have also seen revenues wither over the past few years. Sales of diet pills have dropped 20 percent in the last year, according to the Mintel report.

Roberts says it’s likely because many people who wanted to lose weight tried these diets and programs but weren’t successful. “They’ve tried Weight Watchers and Jenny Craig and books and things of their own design,” she says. “It didn’t work.”

Dieters folly.  But this bodes well for Herbalife. Why? Because Herbalife is different. There is no deprivation. No counting calories. No eating frozen  foods. No going to meetings. It is a natural, healthy program using super foods,  provides optimum nutrition with lower calories. And once again, there is the support of the wellness coach.

As Jean Fain, a Harvard Medical School-affiliated psychotherapist and author, has noted, programs like Weight Watchers typically are just “a short-term fix and conditional support for long-standing eating issues” and can even exacerbate them.

With each subsequent failure, people become more skeptical about the products. Some give up on losing weight altogether, Roberts adds.

But many people do still want to lose weight, and increasingly they’re hoping good nutrition and “healthy eating” will get them there, says R.J. Hottovy, a senior equity analyst with market research firm Morningstar. “Consumers are looking for a more holistic, more health and wellness approach,” he says. “The shift in food trends is toward fresher and more natural ingredients.”

Another issue is trying to get good, quality nutrition eating normal foods.  And what really constitutes healthy eating. With Herbalife, you are getting not only a supplement, but also a menu using real foods  guiding the client to use good foods

And while Weight Watchers’ point system emphasizes “natural” fare and home-cooked meals, it’s still manufacturing processed, high-sodium, low-fiber products. It is no secret that sodium is very bad for anyone. Excessive sodium that is and most people are getting far too much sodium in their daily eating.  I’ve never heard of anyone suffering from a   sodium deficiency.

Previously here on twitter and on that ridiculous FAKE NEWS course Seeking alpha, some of those so called “experts” who attack Herbalife actually called  diet soda a “Health Food” hahahahaha. Unfortunately, many people look at diet soda as a safe alternative and drink of choice.  Diet soda is just as bad for you as regular soda. Just less calories. More chemicals. And will ruin your health. Certaintly NOT  a “Health Food”.

What about those prepackaged meals?????

According to Julie Lehman, marketing director for Lean Cuisine, the company, which is owned by Nestle, has put new labels on products that were already cholesterol-free or gluten-free without changing their formulations. “Lean Cuisine is an emblem of the diet culture that we’ve all grown up with. We know that and we want to walk away from that and focus on eating well and eating healthy,” she says. The brand has added “No Preservatives” and “Gluten-Free” and “Non-GMO” labels and a new line of frozen meals, certified organic by the nonprofit Oregon Tilth. “Consumers are demanding some of these things, and we want to offer it to them,” Lehman says.

Roberts is unconvinced. She doesn’t see the products getting any healthier. “They can relabel them, but the meals are not any different. If you open a box of Lean Cuisine or something like that, you’ll see about a quarter cup of veggies in there. Is that an outstandingly healthy meal? By my standards, it’s not.”

People will still be hungry and still feel deprived, and may ultimately not meet weight loss goals, she says. “They’ll give healthy eating a bad name just as they gave dieting a bad name.”

This is the problem with traditional dieting. You reduce calories with real foods, you cut calories and also cut down on nutrition; Even when you choose good foods like veggies, are you getting enough? Hardly. This is why these diets fail . You are hungry. Body is starving. These programs don’t work.  Yet Herbalife succeeds massively.

 

 

Ackmans Obsession is taking Pershing Sq down. Can you say Gotham Partners II?

MAY 9, 2017

Carl Icahn, despite the negative attacks against him from smaller billionaire with a rapidly declining net worth Billy Ackman, tried to give Billy boy some good advice months ago.  He said that Ackman had gotten too emotional over the HLF short play and was trying to win a bet against Herbalife that was impossible He said that Ackman had “lost perspective” and indeed he has. And now obviously Pershing Sq is paying for Ackmans ineptness.

We all know that Ackman was responsible for taking Gotham Partners down. The once hedge fund office is now a dress factory. Ackman takes miscalculated risks and loses way too often.  And he loses B-I-G Hence, so many of his Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares and washing their hands of Ackman. Who can blame them?

Just a few months ago, Pershing Sq took a huge hit at the expence of Ackmans foolishness and bad investment judgement with a $4 billion+ loss on VRX. And all this time Ackman was telling his sheep to hold on. He had carefully researched this company. The stock would bounce back.  Or so he said. Ackman doubled down by buying more shares as the stock dipped incurring even more losses. Finally selling when $VRX hit $10 for once again a $4 BILLION +LOSS. Ouch! Bad move. Bad judgement.  But it wasn’t his first and won’t be his last.

But does Ackman really know what he is doing in investments? Doesn’t look like it.

Do you remember when VRX used to trade @ $33.51 and Ackman was still so bullish on it?

For more on this wacko, go to this website……….

http://www.therealbillackman.com

Today,  Herbalife (HLF) is up again. Make that three days in row. Ackman and his shills are wrong again. I don’t care if they hold on to their reckless short HLF positions. Hey, it’s their money not mine. I bet their phones are ringing from brokers with Margin Calls. 

In other news, TESLA is also up today. Didn’t Seeking Alpha with their FAKE NEWS STORIES  tell us to sell that last week? And what did I say? Hold on right? So once again, irregardless of Herbalife and HLF stock, who is right and who is wrong as usual,  the FAKE NEWS on Seeking Alpha which is why we call it FAKE NEWS!. qtr research needs to move out of Chris Irons bedroom, out of stock market speculation and  Chris Irons needs to move into something else, like maybe mowing grass? Perhaps he can do that without screwing up.

December, 2012 will go down as the worst time in Bill Ackmans life and will indelibly be etched in time as the time when Bill Ackman made the worst mistake of  his life—–Lying about Herbalife.

Every investor/trader shorts stocks from time to time. Nothing wrong with that.  Typically, savvy, sophisticated, educated and successful traders will research the companies and   stocks before shorting them, they will use technical analysis and other tools to determine whether a stock is ripe for shorting. Heretofore, no one has ever shorted a stock that successfully beat earnings 22 quarters in a row,  with a company that was and still is in a huge growth mode and used old, outmoded and debunked crap to create short position and then call it “A illegal PYRAMID SCHEME and their stock is headed to Zero” as Billy boy Ackman did to Herbalife at that now infamous informercial he mislabeled a presentation back in December 2012.

Billy boy Ackman is not what he claims to be. He has been apropiately named “The Worst of Wall Street”  Just ask anyone who follows his trades or anyone of the many who have redeemed shares and walked away from Pershing Sq. because of Ackman’s very bad investment decisions. 

http://www.therealbillackman.com

*FACT-Ackman’s thesis was all wrong and still is. Where is Sean Dineen these days????

*FACT-Pershing Sq was having a bad year in 2012 and Ackman need to work some magic   so squew the numbers. So why not go after Herbalife? So he thought.

*FACT-Ackman did open a huge $1 billion plus short POS on HLF and allegedly bought December, 2012 puts.

*FACT-The Sohn Conference Informercial was conducted just days before options expiration

*FACT-Ackman would not allow anyone from Herbalife to be in attendance at this Sohn Conference Informercial to offer a point/counter point discussion. What was Ackman afraid of? Obviously the truth and he wanted nothing to ruin the big gains he was expecting from those puts and short POS before the end of December to sugar coat prospectuses to lure in more victims into his Pershing Sq fund scheme(Or is that Perishing??)

Ackman sure created an incredible Fairytale with his FAKE NEWS story on Herbalife and he continues with that FAKE NEWS story to this day. Big problem though: Ackman has been taking a licking on this insane, crazy, reckless, winless HLF short bet.

Despite the hype and drama, bringing in his buddies which included 2 AGs and a US senator, numerous appearances on CNBC, conferences and memos, blogs etc. after nearly 5 years Ackman is deeper in the  hole with his HLF short than ever before and barely hanging on by his fingernails

To date Ackman has lost an estimated $7 million on this HLF short bet. To make any profit on this at all, HLF has to drop to $30. To make a huge profit, it has to drop to under $20. After the Sohn Conference Informercial, HLF did drop as low as $24 but rallied back up. And then when Carl Icahn came on the scene, it really rallied and went as high as $84 in January 2014.

Through it all, Ackman has been appearing on CNBC, sending out memos, apearing all over, frantically trying to find someone who will pretend to be a Herbalife “victim” still says “Herbalife is a pyramid scheme and the stock is going to zero” and everytime he says that, HLF goes higher, higher and higher. While HERBALIFE continues to grow constantly adding more and more and more preferred customers and distributors.

Ackman would be better off trying to shovel sand off of a beach. Same result!

Clearly Ackmans fairytale, and that is all it ever was has turned into a nightmare for this failing billionaire. More and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares, fewer new accounts are being opened.  Ackman had no earthly clue what he was doing when he started this nor did he care that he as putting tens of thousands of HLF longs at risk,  4.5 million Herbalife distributors, 8,000 Herbalife employees without a job or a business opportunity that they  worked long and hard at and potentially leaving millions of happy customers all over the world without a product. Why? All because of Greed & Ego.

While Ackman bashes Herbalife, authentic billionaires who truly understand network marketing,  business and want to help people succeed, fully support it. 

I value the word of these wise and very successful people over shyster, scammer Billy Boy Ackman. 

Regarding that short bet, Yeah I know Ackman claimed he was going to donate any profits to charity. C’mon.

Who invests $1 billion to short a stock and then passes it on to charity? This was all smoke and mirrors.  His eyes were bleeding green and he was chopping at the lips thinking of the billions he could make if this scam  against Herbalife really worked.  And he would look like a do goody to the uneducated and uninformed.  He would look like the “good guy” when he reality, he is quite the opposite.

Thank God it didn’t work.

Herbalife posted first quarter earnings on Thursday that were a blowout substantially exceeding analysts expectations and putting to rest the concerns that the FTC determination would seriously impact Herbalife going forward.

AS many of us have been stating for some time, there would be no serious impact. Herbalife has always been focused on retail sales along with recruiting. Sure there were some shysters who did not follow company guidelines and broke FTC rules by front end loading and selling worthless tools like stale leads, web sites and trying to create telemarketing heroes out of people with no previous sales experience and offered very little if any valuable assistance. Once reported, these people were terminated and actually went with other companies.

A walk down memory lane

Interesting is that when these violaters were reported  and terminated by Herbalife, the Ackman shills were all over the old Yahoo message boards as well as other personal blogs, websites stating “Top leaders leaving Herbalife” This started back in December 2012. They never mentioned that these “Top Leaders” were terminated by Herbalife. Surprised? I wasn’t

The same garbage, not surprisingly started to appear in the Seeking Alpha Fake stories.  Back then, there were as many as 5 anti-HLF “stories” appearing daily in SA. I challenged the authors to  retract their comments and indicate that these “top reps” were actually terminated. Of course they never did. It would take away from their drama and lies. Eventually though the truth came out. Especially when Carl Icahn came on the scene in January 2013.

It should be noted that these anti-HLF people (probably one person with a bunch of aliases) were predicting HLF would hit zero by March, 2013. Hello. It is May, 2017. And we are a long way from zero.

They also constantly reiterated Ackman’s insane line and made it their own:

“HLF is going to 0 and I have a strong sell on it.”

Oh really? What qualifies him to set a target price or a rating on it? Answer: Nothing!

Chris Irons aka Birdbrain quoththeraven

The big mouth in all of this tried to make it appear as though he was a big roller. Some big time analyst or celebrity. Using an alias, he even tried to suggest he was Hugh Heffner! LOL!  In fact, by his own admission he later, about 2 years later with help from Herbie admitted he was in fact “just a little guy” Yes indeed but he never revealed just how little. That was a few years ago.  Now he is trying to play the “big roller” role again and wants some people to think he really knows something. Clue: He doesn’t

Of course I am referring to Chris Irons aka quoththeraven.  I know you already knew it.  And as a another walk down memory lane, who was it that revealed his real first name was Chris and was about to reveal his whole name until he did it himself, embarrassed by my letting the cat out of the bag? Of course, I was the one. And keep in mind, prior to all of this, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven tried to convince everyone that he would never, never, never,never, ever release him real name because he was getting so much hate mail and death threats. LOL—–The drama continued. So much bull. But once I let people know that I was about to reveal his real name, the so called “Hate mail” and Deaththreats” were no longer an issue.

Chris Irons challenges John Hempton to a debate. Really Chris????

Almost too funny, I got a memo from someone who still subscribes to Chris Irons aka quoththeravens twitter feed that he wants to challenge John  Hempton, anytime, anywhere. While I can’t speak for John Hempton, I would love to see this happen. Is there any doubt that John Hempton would mop the floor with qtr??? Have you ever read any of quoththeravens (Chris Irons) stuff? He is not a very good communicator. Communication is not his forte at all. And he is never accurate. Hempton is. And Hempton understands investing. Chris Irons does not. He is always so wrong. My $$$$ are on Hempton, that is if Chris Irons actually accepts. But rest easy, he won’t. Just more of the drama.

I also received several messages from people sending me tweets that quoththeraven posted on his quoththeraven twitter page. I’ve been blocked and thankful for that just as I am continually deleting all of quoththeravens fake aliases from my twitter account. Interesting that this guy is so obsessed with following me.

Apparently on Thursday and Friday Irons came out like a raving lunatic. He couldn’t believe the earnings results nor how the street reacted and HLF soared. Was like Ackman’s ill fated “Herbalife death blow” in July 2014 (hahahahahaha) Some deathbow. Ackman looked like the fool he is as did Irons and whatever other followers Ackman has and HLF shorts. They were in shock. No response for about a week. Then Irons tried to spin it as he always does and the market laughed as they always do.

And BTW, 3 years ago Matt Stewart who many people think is just another alias for Chris Irons challenged Lenny Clements to a debate. Lenny accepted. But where was Matt?!!!!!! Lenny is a recognized authority on MLM. Stewart? He has an opinion and an agenda and is always wrong.

Matt also suggested that the Michigan AG and then all AGs across America would “pile on” Herbalife after two of Ackman’s buddies, both AGs initated action.  That died very quickly and no other AGs did anything.

Paper Tiger Matt Stewart aka “The Chicken”

Chris Irons aka quoththeravens reaction to HLF earnings and market on Thursday nite and Friday. 

Getting back to last Thursday, in Chris Irons world, earnings were bad. The sky was falling for Herbalife. Vindication for Ackman. Billy boy was right, yada, yada, yada. Funny the street didn’t see it that way as HLF SOARED in AH trading and continued to run up on Friday.  Chris Irons aka quoththeraven is obviously living in his own fantasy world and no doubt he thinks the rest of the world is oblivious to the truth and we, as he puts it so often, “just don’t get it” LOL!!!!!!!!

Moving on to 2nd quarter earnings

All we heard from the Anti-HLF’ers since HLF’s 4th qtr earnings was that the FTC decision would show up in Q1 earnings. Well we just had them, Herbalife did extremely well and predictably, the new argument from the Herbalife bashers is that it will show up in 2nd qtr earnings. In case these guys missed it, Herbalife had a strong outlook for 2017 and spring is always a good time for Herbalife sales. People want to lose weight for summer beachtime and warm weather season.  Not to mention their diversified product line of wellness, skin care and sports  supplements. Look for 2nd qtr earnings to also exceed.

And of course when Herbalife exceeds earnings in Q2, then the bashers will say wait until Q3, Q4, (yawn)

Some people suggest that there is a final test coming to see which side is  right, Ackman or Herbalife. Look at the last 4 1/2 years and look at 1st qtr earnings for 2017. Look at the reaction from the markets. I think it is obvious which side is right and pardon my grammar, but it ain’t Ackman. It is over for Ackman.

Carl Icahn has tightened his grip on Billy boy. Choking the life out of him. And Icahn is expected to be building on his position.  Good bye Billy.  You’re just a crybaby in the school yard. Always were, always will be.

Then some say that the bulls are winning for now.  For now????  The bulls have been winning this since January 2013!!!!!!!!!!

Some keep bringing out the FTC fine from last June. “That Herbalife paid a $200 million fine in July to end the FTC’s investigation into whether the multi-level marketer of diet shakes was a pyramid scheme, as Ackman had accused.”  Or that is how they say it.

Herbalife DID NOT pay the fine to end the FTCs investigation. FTC does not negotiate with companies that break the law. It was certain Herbalife distributors who broke the law and thus Herbalife ended up paying a fine for their improper actions. As already mentioned above, these distributors were terminated by Herbalife and their actions were never condoned by Herbalife and clearly against Herbalife policy.  And most of that fine went back to Herbalife via fmr Herbalife distributors who returned to the company at the end of qtr 4 and beginning of q1 and used that money to buy more Herbalife products. Where were the co called “Herbalife victims” Only in Ackmans imagination.

In fact, Herbalife agreed to distinguish between distributors who sell the product and preferred members who merely want to use the products. Ackman, who knows little or nothing about network marketing or even how to pick stocks as evidenced by his huge losses on HLF short not to mention VRX recently and JCP, BORDERS, TARGET etc.  scoffed at this idea and still claims that he sees HLF going to zero. But of course he does. His reputation is at stake and he has already lost approximately $700 million on this very reckless and poorly research HLF short play. And by the way, didn’t he also say he was bullish on VRX right up until he pulled the plug and sold it AT A $4 BILLION LOSS??? Ackman’s word is not his bond. His word is meaningless. He will say he is staying with his HLF short POS and then pull the plg and cover seconds later.

Herbalife reported 18,652 new members in North America in the first quarter, that number does not include the preferred members, a contingent that is several times larger than the distributors who actually sell the product to others. (Since Herbalife began separating these two categories in mid-January, 80% of new U.S. recruits signed up as preferred members, the company said.)

Previously, the Herbalife bashers claim was that Herbalife did not have any customers. Now Herbalife is proving they do. And now the Ackmanaholics Herbalife bashers look at this as bad news for Herbalife??????????? I don’t think so. It proves what Herbalife has been saying all along. That there are real customers. And I am certain that is the way the street saw it too based on the huge rally on Thursday AH and on Friday.

The total combined number of new U.S. distributors and preferred members is just slightly below what it was last year: In the first quarter of 2016, Herbalife disclosed 83,276 new North American recruits, of which about 80,200 were in the U.S. This year, the number was 78,900 for the same period, a decline of 1.7%, according to the company.

But, take into consideration the constant attacks by Ackman and his shills. Contrary to what Ackman and his shills say, this has leaked out to the general public and has affected Herbalife to some degree. Mainstreet is very much aware of this and not because of that Ackman informercial mislabeled a documentary.  However, in spite of Ackman’s unsubstantiated remarks, Herbalife still continued to grow massively outpacing other network marketing-MLM companies in North America.

And of course, you have to take into account the current state of the economy and that USA had a presidential election in 2016. These things always create turmoil in the the markets.  ALL told, Herbalife’s numbers were very impressive if not extraordinary.

Even before the quarter ended, there were signs that Ackman and other Herbalife detractors had underestimated the number of consumers amid the company’s distributor ranks. This is nothing new. In 2012, Ackman also underestimated and misjudged when herbalife reps would renew. It was a huge miscalulation.

When the FTC sent settlement checks earlier this year to supposed Herbalife “victims” who had supposedly never made any money as distributors, many of those who are now preferred members received them. Fans of the diet and nutrition products who never intended to resell them, some of those people said they planned to spend the settlement money on more Herbalife shakes and protein bars. Put another way, that FTC fine is being redirected  back to Herbalife and Herbalife did not pay a fine to end the FTC investigation. The FTC does not operate that way. If Herbalife was guilty of any wrong doing, they would have been shut down. They weren’t. Case closed. Except in the minds of Ackman and his nutty follower(s)

Some will remember that Herbalife faced a major challenge back in 1985. Prior to the media attack then, Herbalife’s sales were over $512 million annually and were up to over $90 million a month in January, 1985. After the media attack, Herbalife sales dropped all the way down to only $10 million annually.  This occurred in the 1980s. We all know Herbalife came roaring back. Also, I think that challenge was far more potent that what little weenie Ackman has offered. Herbalife is very resilent and has always proved that they are following the laws. Legal and ethical.

The FTC was yanked into this by Ackman via his buddy Sen. Markey.  What was the result? Ackman lost again and we haven’t heard from Sen. Markey. I wonder if he is still close friends with ACKMAN after this embarrassment???? And how about those two AGs who were such good buddies with Billy boy, where are they? Also been very quiet.

Sen. Markey may be eating ice cream cones, but he has had very little to do with his (former??) good buddy Billy boy Ackman

As already mentioned, that FTC settlement to so called Herbalife “victims” has brought more former distributors and preferred members back to Herbalife and they are using that money to buy more Herbalife products.  So the settlement is actually being redirected back to Herbalife. Interesting. Or at least much of it.

Also, Herbalife as we all know has their WinBack program in place which has been very successful bringing back more former distributors and preferred members. And of course  Herbalife reps are hard at work building their businesses. I see the button “Lose Weight Now – Ask Me How” everywhere and Herbalife reps inviting people to their nutrition clubs. Speaking of which, I love the nutrition clubs. They are very powerful.

Another thing, spring is always the best time of the year for Herbalife as people are focusing on losing weight for summer and warm weather season. Expect sales to SOAR. And there are ads all over for Herbalife. Not to mention that Herblaife’s product line goes beyond just weight loss to sports supplements, wellness products, skin care and more.  All of these things are positives and I expect Herbalife to have a OUTSTANDING 2nd quarter.

The squeeze on Ackman tightened up considerably last Thursday. Expect to get even tighter.  MOASS is here.

I also enjoy playing with quoththeraven aka Chris Irons, Ackman, his braindead shills and the stupid and ignorant HLF shorts.  Every single time they open their mouths via the internet with outrageus, ridiculous “what ifs”  and “maybes” Doom & Gloom predictions, yet they are always wrong and I am always right. I look forward to doing it again next quarter and watching them be oh sooo wrong yet again. My guess is that Ackman will be gone by then. But this guy will continue. I guess he really needs that $35 an article and a penny per click from the garbage he writes on SA.

Hey Chris, so there is no hard feelings, I have  some friends in Philly who may be able to help you. They are looking for a gardener and someone to mow their lawn. Probably will pay better than writing garbage on Seeking alpha and more ethical than promoting Pump & Dump pennystock junk. Of course, this is assuming you really do live in Philly and are fit enough to    run a lawn mower and do  garndening work.  Do you really live in Philly? Perhaps that is total bull too.

Ackmanaholics and shills are really funny.  No matter  how many times they are wrong, which is everytime, they still maintain they are right and think they can manipulate t he market with their b.s.  It never works! They are like the guy who hits himself on the head with a hammer. He should only have to do that one time to realize, “Ouch, that hurts.”

Herbalife had great earnings as I and so many other experienced investors indicated long before earnings was announced. I made it obvious that I was long a week before and was expecting great earnings. I increased my POS on HLF, bought calls, sold puts and bought more shares. And do you know how many companies would love to have the numbers that Herbalife produced on Thursday? Do you know how many MLM companies would love to acquire 83,276 new distributors just in North America in 1 yr and without the noise and distraction of that lunatic Ackman???

Clearly, what Herbalife did on Thursday was nothing short of mind boggling.

BTW, here are some of my other holdings. Obviously, I can’t put an image of my account on here.  I know how to invest successfully. Unlike Ackman and Chris Irons. BTW, did you know that even though Chris Irons along with his idol Ackman, makes wise cracks about Herbalife reps, calls them “get rich quick money hungry scam artists” Do you know how he makes his living? He is a PUMPnDUMP pennsystock promoter.

And interesting too, in another tweet that I received made by Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, he indicates he wants the name calling stopped but then proceeds to name call Michael O. Johnson and new Herbalife CEO. Well, well. Those of us who ever read his stuff have come to expect this.  No surprise.

Hey Chris, my friends in Philly really are looking for someone to mow their grass and be their gardener. At least this would allow you to make an honest living, for a change.  And no doubt more $$$ than what you make now. IF you are healthy enough to do it that is.

Bill Ackman’s Fairy-Tale has turned into a nightmare!

May 8, 2017

December, 2012 will go down as the worst time in Bill Ackmans life and will indelibly be etched in time as the time when Bill Ackman made the worst mistake of  his life—–Lying about Herbalife.

Every investor/trader shorts stocks from time to time. Nothing wrong with that.  Typically, savvy, sophisticated, educated and successful traders will research the companies and   stocks before shorting them, they will use technical analysis and other tools to determine whether a stock is ripe for shorting. Heretofore, no one has ever shorted a stock that successfully beat earnings 22 quarters in a row,  with a company that was and still is in a huge growth mode and used old, outmoded and debunked crap to create short position and then call it “A illegal PYRAMID SCHEME and their stock is headed to Zero” as Billy boy Ackman did to Herbalife at that now infamous informercial he mislabeled a presentation back in December 2012.

Billy boy Ackman is not what he claims to be. He has been apropiately named “The Worst of Wall Street”  Just ask anyone who follows his trades or anyone of the many who have redeemed shares and walked away from Pershing Sq. because of Ackman’s very bad investment decisions. 

http://www.therealbillackman.com

*FACT-Ackman’s thesis was all wrong and still is. Where is Sean Dineen these days????

*FACT-Pershing Sq was having a bad year in 2012 and Ackman need to work some magic   so squew the numbers. So why not go after Herbalife? So he thought.

*FACT-Ackman did open a huge $1 billion plus short POS on HLF and allegedly bought December, 2012 puts.

*FACT-The Sohn Conference Informercial was conducted just days before options expiration

*FACT-Ackman would not allow anyone from Herbalife to be in attendance at this Sohn Conference Informercial to offer a point/counter point discussion. What was Ackman afraid of? Obviously the truth and he wanted nothing to ruin the big gains he was expecting from those puts and short POS before the end of December to sugar coat prospectuses to lure in more victims into his Pershing Sq fund scheme(Or is that Perishing??)

Ackman sure created an incredible Fairytale with his FAKE NEWS story on Herbalife and he continues with that FAKE NEWS story to this day. Big problem though: Ackman has been taking a licking on this insane, crazy, reckless, winless HLF short bet.

Despite the hype and drama, bringing in his buddies which included 2 AGs and a US senator, numerous appearances on CNBC, conferences and memos, blogs etc. after nearly 5 years Ackman is deeper in the  hole with his HLF short than ever before and barely hanging on by his fingernails

To date Ackman has lost an estimated $7 million on this HLF short bet. To make any profit on this at all, HLF has to drop to $30. To make a huge profit, it has to drop to under $20. After the Sohn Conference Informercial, HLF did drop as low as $24 but rallied back up. And then when Carl Icahn came on the scene, it really rallied and went as high as $84 in January 2014.

Through it all, Ackman has been appearing on CNBC, sending out memos, apearing all over, frantically trying to find someone who will pretend to be a Herbalife “victim” still says “Herbalife is a pyramid scheme and the stock is going to zero” and everytime he says that, HLF goes higher, higher and higher. While HERBALIFE continues to grow constantly adding more and more and more preferred customers and distributors.

Ackman would be better off trying to shovel sand off of a beach. Same result!

Clearly Ackmans fairytale, and that is all it ever was has turned into a nightmare for this failing billionaire. More and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares, fewer new accounts are being opened.  Ackman had no earthly clue what he was doing when he started this nor did he care that he as putting tens of thousands of HLF longs at risk,  4.5 million Herbalife distributors, 8,000 Herbalife employees without a job or a business opportunity that they  worked long and hard at and potentially leaving millions of happy customers all over the world without a product. Why? All because of Greed & Ego.

While Ackman bashes Herbalife, authentic billionaires who truly understand network marketing,  business and want to help people succeed, fully support it. 

I value the word of these wise and very successful people over shyster, scammer Billy Boy Ackman. 

Regarding that short bet, Yeah I know Ackman claimed he was going to donate any profits to charity. C’mon.

Who invests $1 billion to short a stock and then passes it on to charity? This was all smoke and mirrors.  His eyes were bleeding green and he was chopping at the lips thinking of the billions he could make if this scam  against Herbalife really worked.  And he would look like a do goody to the uneducated and uninformed.  He would look like the “good guy” when he reality, he is quite the opposite.

Thank God it didn’t work.

Herbalife posted first quarter earnings on Thursday that were a blowout substantially exceeding analysts expectations and putting to rest the concerns that the FTC determination would seriously impact Herbalife going forward.

AS many of us have been stating for some time, there would be no serious impact. Herbalife has always been focused on retail sales along with recruiting. Sure there were some shysters who did not follow company guidelines and broke FTC rules by front end loading and selling worthless tools like stale leads, web sites and trying to create telemarketing heroes out of people with no previous sales experience and offered very little if any valuable assistance. Once reported, these people were terminated and actually went with other companies.

A walk down memory lane

Interesting is that when these violaters were reported  and terminated by Herbalife, the Ackman shills were all over the old Yahoo message boards as well as other personal blogs, websites stating “Top leaders leaving Herbalife” This started back in December 2012. They never mentioned that these “Top Leaders” were terminated by Herbalife. Surprised? I wasn’t

The same garbage, not surprisingly started to appear in the Seeking Alpha Fake stories.  Back then, there were as many as 5 anti-HLF “stories” appearing daily in SA. I challenged the authors to  retract their comments and indicate that these “top reps” were actually terminated. Of course they never did. It would take away from their drama and lies. Eventually though the truth came out. Especially when Carl Icahn came on the scene in January 2013.

It should be noted that these anti-HLF people (probably one person with a bunch of aliases) were predicting HLF would hit zero by March, 2013. Hello. It is May, 2017. And we are a long way from zero.

They also constantly reiterated Ackman’s insane line and made it their own:

“HLF is going to 0 and I have a strong sell on it.”

Oh really? What qualifies him to set a target price or a rating on it? Answer: Nothing!

Chris Irons aka Birdbrain quoththeraven

The big mouth in all of this tried to make it appear as though he was a big roller. Some big time analyst or celebrity. Using an alias, he even tried to suggest he was Hugh Heffner! LOL!  In fact, by his own admission he later, about 2 years later with help from Herbie admitted he was in fact “just a little guy” Yes indeed but he never revealed just how little. That was a few years ago.  Now he is trying to play the “big roller” role again and wants some people to think he really knows something. Clue: He doesn’t

Of course I am referring to Chris Irons aka quoththeraven.  I know you already knew it.  And as a another walk down memory lane, who was it that revealed his real first name was Chris and was about to reveal his whole name until he did it himself, embarrassed by my letting the cat out of the bag? Of course, I was the one. And keep in mind, prior to all of this, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven tried to convince everyone that he would never, never, never,never, ever release him real name because he was getting so much hate mail and death threats. LOL—–The drama continued. So much bull. But once I let people know that I was about to reveal his real name, the so called “Hate mail” and Deaththreats” were no longer an issue.

Chris Irons challenges John Hempton to a debate. Really Chris????

Almost too funny, I got a memo from someone who still subscribes to Chris Irons aka quoththeravens twitter feed that he wants to challenge John  Hempton, anytime, anywhere. While I can’t speak for John Hempton, I would love to see this happen. Is there any doubt that John Hempton would mop the floor with qtr??? Have you ever read any of quoththeravens (Chris Irons) stuff? He is not a very good communicator. Communication is not his forte at all. And he is never accurate. Hempton is. And Hempton understands investing. Chris Irons does not. He is always so wrong. My $$$$ are on Hempton, that is if Chris Irons actually accepts. But rest easy, he won’t. Just more of the drama.

I also received several messages from people sending me tweets that quoththeraven posted on his quoththeraven twitter page. I’ve been blocked and thankful for that just as I am continually deleting all of quoththeravens fake aliases from my twitter account. Interesting that this guy is so obsessed with following me.

Apparently on Thursday and Friday Irons came out like a raving lunatic. He couldn’t believe the earnings results nor how the street reacted and HLF soared. Was like Ackman’s ill fated “Herbalife death blow” in July 2014 (hahahahahaha) Some deathbow. Ackman looked like the fool he is as did Irons and whatever other followers Ackman has and HLF shorts. They were in shock. No response for about a week. Then Irons tried to spin it as he always does and the market laughed as they always do.

And BTW, 3 years ago Matt Stewart who many people think is just another alias for Chris Irons challenged Lenny Clements to a debate. Lenny accepted. But where was Matt?!!!!!! Lenny is a recognized authority on MLM. Stewart? He has an opinion and an agenda and is always wrong.

Matt also suggested that the Michigan AG and then all AGs across America would “pile on” Herbalife after two of Ackman’s buddies, both AGs initated action.  That died very quickly and no other AGs did anything.

Paper Tiger Matt Stewart aka “The Chicken”

Chris Irons aka quoththeravens reaction to HLF earnings and market on Thursday nite and Friday. 

Getting back to last Thursday, in Chris Irons world, earnings were bad. The sky was falling for Herbalife. Vindication for Ackman. Billy boy was right, yada, yada, yada. Funny the street didn’t see it that way as HLF SOARED in AH trading and continued to run up on Friday.  Chris Irons aka quoththeraven is obviously living in his own fantasy world and no doubt he thinks the rest of the world is oblivious to the truth and we, as he puts it so often, “just don’t get it” LOL!!!!!!!!

Moving on to 2nd quarter earnings

All we heard from the Anti-HLF’ers since HLF’s 4th qtr earnings was that the FTC decision would show up in Q1 earnings. Well we just had them, Herbalife did extremely well and predictably, the new argument from the Herbalife bashers is that it will show up in 2nd qtr earnings. In case these guys missed it, Herbalife had a strong outlook for 2017 and spring is always a good time for Herbalife sales. People want to lose weight for summer beachtime and warm weather season.  Not to mention their diversified product line of wellness, skin care and sports  supplements. Look for 2nd qtr earnings to also exceed.

And of course when Herbalife exceeds earnings in Q2, then the bashers will say wait until Q3, Q4, (yawn)

Some people suggest that there is a final test coming to see which side is  right, Ackman or Herbalife. Look at the last 4 1/2 years and look at 1st qtr earnings for 2017. Look at the reaction from the markets. I think it is obvious which side is right and pardon my grammar, but it ain’t Ackman. It is over for Ackman.

Carl Icahn has tightened his grip on Billy boy. Choking the life out of him. And Icahn is expected to be building on his position.  Good bye Billy.  You’re just a crybaby in the school yard. Always were, always will be.

Then some say that the bulls are winning for now.  For now????  The bulls have been winning this since January 2013!!!!!!!!!!

Some keep bringing out the FTC fine from last June. “That Herbalife paid a $200 million fine in July to end the FTC’s investigation into whether the multi-level marketer of diet shakes was a pyramid scheme, as Ackman had accused.”  Or that is how they say it.

Herbalife DID NOT pay the fine to end the FTCs investigation. FTC does not negotiate with companies that break the law. It was certain Herbalife distributors who broke the law and thus Herbalife ended up paying a fine for their improper actions. As already mentioned above, these distributors were terminated by Herbalife and their actions were never condoned by Herbalife and clearly against Herbalife policy.  And most of that fine went back to Herbalife via fmr Herbalife distributors who returned to the company at the end of qtr 4 and beginning of q1 and used that money to buy more Herbalife products. Where were the co called “Herbalife victims” Only in Ackmans imagination.

In fact, Herbalife agreed to distinguish between distributors who sell the product and preferred members who merely want to use the products. Ackman, who knows little or nothing about network marketing or even how to pick stocks as evidenced by his huge losses on HLF short not to mention VRX recently and JCP, BORDERS, TARGET etc.  scoffed at this idea and still claims that he sees HLF going to zero. But of course he does. His reputation is at stake and he has already lost approximately $700 million on this very reckless and poorly research HLF short play. And by the way, didn’t he also say he was bullish on VRX right up until he pulled the plug and sold it AT A $4 BILLION LOSS??? Ackman’s word is not his bond. His word is meaningless. He will say he is staying with his HLF short POS and then pull the plg and cover seconds later.

Herbalife reported 18,652 new members in North America in the first quarter, that number does not include the preferred members, a contingent that is several times larger than the distributors who actually sell the product to others. (Since Herbalife began separating these two categories in mid-January, 80% of new U.S. recruits signed up as preferred members, the company said.)

Previously, the Herbalife bashers claim was that Herbalife did not have any customers. Now Herbalife is proving they do. And now the Ackmanaholics Herbalife bashers look at this as bad news for Herbalife??????????? I don’t think so. It proves what Herbalife has been saying all along. That there are real customers. And I am certain that is the way the street saw it too based on the huge rally on Thursday AH and on Friday.

The total combined number of new U.S. distributors and preferred members is just slightly below what it was last year: In the first quarter of 2016, Herbalife disclosed 83,276 new North American recruits, of which about 80,200 were in the U.S. This year, the number was 78,900 for the same period, a decline of 1.7%, according to the company.

But, take into consideration the constant attacks by Ackman and his shills. Contrary to what Ackman and his shills say, this has leaked out to the general public and has affected Herbalife to some degree. Mainstreet is very much aware of this and not because of that Ackman informercial mislabeled a documentary.  However, in spite of Ackman’s unsubstantiated remarks, Herbalife still continued to grow massively outpacing other network marketing-MLM companies in North America.

And of course, you have to take into account the current state of the economy and that USA had a presidential election in 2016. These things always create turmoil in the the markets.  ALL told, Herbalife’s numbers were very impressive if not extraordinary.

Even before the quarter ended, there were signs that Ackman and other Herbalife detractors had underestimated the number of consumers amid the company’s distributor ranks. This is nothing new. In 2012, Ackman also underestimated and misjudged when herbalife reps would renew. It was a huge miscalulation.

When the FTC sent settlement checks earlier this year to supposed Herbalife “victims” who had supposedly never made any money as distributors, many of those who are now preferred members received them. Fans of the diet and nutrition products who never intended to resell them, some of those people said they planned to spend the settlement money on more Herbalife shakes and protein bars. Put another way, that FTC fine is being redirected  back to Herbalife and Herbalife did not pay a fine to end the FTC investigation. The FTC does not operate that way. If Herbalife was guilty of any wrong doing, they would have been shut down. They weren’t. Case closed. Except in the minds of Ackman and his nutty follower(s)

Some will remember that Herbalife faced a major challenge back in 1985. Prior to the media attack then, Herbalife’s sales were over $512 million annually and were up to over $90 million a month in January, 1985. After the media attack, Herbalife sales dropped all the way down to only $10 million annually.  This occurred in the 1980s. We all know Herbalife came roaring back. Also, I think that challenge was far more potent that what little weenie Ackman has offered. Herbalife is very resilent and has always proved that they are following the laws. Legal and ethical.

The FTC was yanked into this by Ackman via his buddy Sen. Markey.  What was the result? Ackman lost again and we haven’t heard from Sen. Markey. I wonder if he is still close friends with ACKMAN after this embarrassment???? And how about those two AGs who were such good buddies with Billy boy, where are they? Also been very quiet.

Sen. Markey may be eating ice cream cones, but he has had very little to do with his (former??) good buddy Billy boy Ackman

As already mentioned, that FTC settlement to so called Herbalife “victims” has brought more former distributors and preferred members back to Herbalife and they are using that money to buy more Herbalife products.  So the settlement is actually being redirected back to Herbalife. Interesting. Or at least much of it.

Also, Herbalife as we all know has their WinBack program in place which has been very successful bringing back more former distributors and preferred members. And of course  Herbalife reps are hard at work building their businesses. I see the button “Lose Weight Now – Ask Me How” everywhere and Herbalife reps inviting people to their nutrition clubs. Speaking of which, I love the nutrition clubs. They are very powerful.

Another thing, spring is always the best time of the year for Herbalife as people are focusing on losing weight for summer and warm weather season. Expect sales to SOAR. And there are ads all over for Herbalife. Not to mention that Herblaife’s product line goes beyond just weight loss to sports supplements, wellness products, skin care and more.  All of these things are positives and I expect Herbalife to have a OUTSTANDING 2nd quarter.

The squeeze on Ackman tightened up considerably last Thursday. Expect to get even tighter.  MOASS is here.

I also enjoy playing with quoththeraven aka Chris Irons, Ackman, his braindead shills and the stupid and ignorant HLF shorts.  Every single time they open their mouths via the internet with outrageus, ridiculous “what ifs”  and “maybes” Doom & Gloom predictions, yet they are always wrong and I am always right. I look forward to doing it again next quarter and watching them be oh sooo wrong yet again. My guess is that Ackman will be gone by then. But this guy will continue. I guess he really needs that $35 an article and a penny per click from the garbage he writes on SA.

Hey Chris, so there is no hard feelings, I have  some friends in Philly who may be able to help you. They are looking for a gardener and someone to mow their lawn. Probably will pay better than writing garbage on Seeking alpha and more ethical than promoting Pump & Dump pennystock junk. Of course, this is assuming you really do live in Philly and are fit enough to    run a lawn mower and do  garndening work.  Do you really live in Philly? Perhaps that is total bull too.

Ackmanaholics and shills are really funny.  No matter  how many times they are wrong, which is everytime, they still maintain they are right and think they can manipulate t he market with their b.s.  It never works! They are like the guy who hits himself on the head with a hammer. He should only have to do that one time to realize, “Ouch, that hurts.”

Herbalife had great earnings as I and so many other experienced investors indicated long before earnings was announced. I made it obvious that I was long a week before and was expecting great earnings. I increased my POS on HLF, bought calls, sold puts and bought more shares. And do you know how many companies would love to have the numbers that Herbalife produced on Thursday? Do you know how many MLM companies would love to acquire 83,276 new distributors just in North America in 1 yr and without the noise and distraction of that lunatic Ackman???

Clearly, what Herbalife did on Thursday was nothing short of mind boggling.

BTW, here are some of my other holdings. Obviously, I can’t put an image of my account on here.  I know how to invest successfully. Unlike Ackman and Chris Irons. BTW, did you know that even though Chris Irons along with his idol Ackman, makes wise cracks about Herbalife reps, calls them “get rich quick money hungry scam artists” Do you know how he makes his living? He is a PUMPnDUMP pennsystock promoter.

And interesting too, in another tweet that I received made by Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, he indicates he wants the name calling stopped but then proceeds to name call Michael O. Johnson and new Herbalife CEO. Well, well. Those of us who ever read his stuff have come to expect this.  No surprise.

Hey Chris, my friends in Philly really are looking for someone to mow their grass and be their gardener. At least this would allow you to make an honest living, for a change.  And no doubt more $$$ than what you make now. IF you are healthy enough to do it that is.

It’s finally over. Herbalife Out of the woods. Ackman’s reckless & winless HLF short play now officially DEAD!

May 8, 2017

Herbalife posted first quarter earnings on Thursday that were a blowout substantially exceeding analysts expectations and putting to rest the concerns that the FTC determination would seriously impact Herbalife going forward.

AS many of us have been stating for some time, there would be no serious impact. Herbalife has always been focused on retail sales along with recruiting. Sure there were some shysters who did not follow company guidelines and broke FTC rules by front end loading and selling worthless tools like stale leads, web sites and trying to create telemarketing heroes out of people with no previous sales experience and offered very little if any valuable assistance. Once reported, these people were terminated and actually went with other companies.

A walk down memory lane

Interesting is that when these violaters were reported  and terminated by Herbalife, the Ackman shills were all over the old Yahoo message boards as well as other personal blogs, websites stating “Top leaders leaving Herbalife” This started back in December 2012. They never mentioned that these “Top Leaders” were terminated by Herbalife. Surprised? I wasn’t

The same garbage, not surprisingly started to appear in the Seeking Alpha Fake stories.  Back then, there were as many as 5 anti-HLF “stories” appearing daily in SA. I challenged the authors to  retract their comments and indicate that these “top reps” were actually terminated. Of course they never did. It would take away from their drama and lies. Eventually though the truth came out. Especially when Carl Icahn came on the scene in January 2013.

It should be noted that these anti-HLF people (probably one person with a bunch of aliases) were predicting HLF would hit zero by March, 2013. Hello. It is May, 2017. And we are a long way from zero.

They also constantly reiterated Ackman’s insane line and made it their own:

“HLF is going to 0 and I have a strong sell on it.”

Oh really? What qualifies him to set a target price or a rating on it? Answer: Nothing!

Chris Irons aka Birdbrain quoththeraven

The big mouth in all of this tried to make it appear as though he was a big roller. Some big time analyst or celebrity. Using an alias, he even tried to suggest he was Hugh Heffner! LOL!  In fact, by his own admission he later, about 2 years later with help from Herbie admitted he was in fact “just a little guy” Yes indeed but he never revealed just how little. That was a few years ago.  Now he is trying to play the “big roller” role again and wants some people to think he really knows something. Clue: He doesn’t

Of course I am referring to Chris Irons aka quoththeraven.  I know you already knew it.  And as a another walk down memory lane, who was it that revealed his real first name was Chris and was about to reveal his whole name until he did it himself, embarrassed by my letting the cat out of the bag? Of course, I was the one. And keep in mind, prior to all of this, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven tried to convince everyone that he would never, never, never,never, ever release him real name because he was getting so much hate mail and death threats. LOL—–The drama continued. So much bull. But once I let people know that I was about to reveal his real name, the so called “Hate mail” and Deaththreats” were no longer an issue.

Chris Irons challenges John Hempton to a debate. Really Chris????

Almost too funny, I got a memo from someone who still subscribes to Chris Irons aka quoththeravens twitter feed that he wants to challenge John  Hempton, anytime, anywhere. While I can’t speak for John Hempton, I would love to see this happen. Is there any doubt that John Hempton would mop the floor with qtr??? Have you ever read any of quoththeravens (Chris Irons) stuff? He is not a very good communicator. Communication is not his forte at all. And he is never accurate. Hempton is. And Hempton understands investing. Chris Irons does not. He is always so wrong. My $$$$ are on Hempton, that is if Chris Irons actually accepts. But rest easy, he won’t. Just more of the drama.

I also received several messages from people sending me tweets that quoththeraven posted on his quoththeraven twitter page. I’ve been blocked and thankful for that just as I am continually deleting all of quoththeravens fake aliases from my twitter account. Interesting that this guy is so obsessed with following me.

Apparently on Thursday and Friday Irons came out like a raving lunatic. He couldn’t believe the earnings results nor how the street reacted and HLF soared. Was like Ackman’s ill fated “Herbalife death blow” in July 2014 (hahahahahaha) Some deathbow. Ackman looked like the fool he is as did Irons and whatever other followers Ackman has and HLF shorts. They were in shock. No response for about a week. Then Irons tried to spin it as he always does and the market laughed as they always do.

And BTW, 3 years ago Matt Stewart who many people think is just another alias for Chris Irons challenged Lenny Clements to a debate. Lenny accepted. But where was Matt?!!!!!! Lenny is a recognized authority on MLM. Stewart? He has an opinion and an agenda and is always wrong.

Matt also suggested that the Michigan AG and then all AGs across America would “pile on” Herbalife after two of Ackman’s buddies, both AGs initated action.  That died very quickly and no other AGs did anything.

Paper Tiger Matt Stewart aka “The Chicken”

 

 

Chris Irons aka quoththeravens reaction to HLF earnings and market on Thursday nite and Friday. 

 

Getting back to last Thursday, in Chris Irons world, earnings were bad. The sky was falling for Herbalife. Vindication for Ackman. Billy boy was right, yada, yada, yada. Funny the street didn’t see it that way as HLF SOARED in AH trading and continued to run up on Friday.  Chris Irons aka quoththeraven is obviously living in his own fantasy world and no doubt he thinks the rest of the world is oblivious to the truth and we, as he puts it so often, “just don’t get it” LOL!!!!!!!!

Moving on to 2nd quarter earnings

All we heard from the Anti-HLF’ers since HLF’s 4th qtr earnings was that the FTC decision would show up in Q1 earnings. Well we just had them, Herbalife did extremely well and predictably, the new argument from the Herbalife bashers is that it will show up in 2nd qtr earnings. In case these guys missed it, Herbalife had a strong outlook for 2017 and spring is always a good time for Herbalife sales. People want to lose weight for summer beachtime and warm weather season.  Not to mention their diversified product line of wellness, skin care and sports  supplements. Look for 2nd qtr earnings to also exceed.

And of course when Herbalife exceeds earnings in Q2, then the bashers will say wait until Q3, Q4, (yawn)

Some people suggest that there is a final test coming to see which side is  right, Ackman or Herbalife. Look at the last 4 1/2 years and look at 1st qtr earnings for 2017. Look at the reaction from the markets. I think it is obvious which side is right and pardon my grammar, but it ain’t Ackman. It is over for Ackman.

Carl Icahn has tightened his grip on Billy boy. Choking the life out of him. And Icahn is expected to be building on his position.  Good bye Billy.  You’re just a crybaby in the school yard. Always were, always will be.

Then some say that the bulls are winning for now.  For now????  The bulls have been winning this since January 2013!!!!!!!!!!

Some keep bringing out the FTC fine from last June. “That Herbalife paid a $200 million fine in July to end the FTC’s investigation into whether the multi-level marketer of diet shakes was a pyramid scheme, as Ackman had accused.”  Or that is how they say it.

Herbalife DID NOT pay the fine to end the FTCs investigation. FTC does not negotiate with companies that break the law. It was certain Herbalife distributors who broke the law and thus Herbalife ended up paying a fine for their improper actions. As already mentioned above, these distributors were terminated by Herbalife and their actions were never condoned by Herbalife and clearly against Herbalife policy.  And most of that fine went back to Herbalife via fmr Herbalife distributors who returned to the company at the end of qtr 4 and beginning of q1 and used that money to buy more Herbalife products. Where were the co called “Herbalife victims” Only in Ackmans imagination.

In fact, Herbalife agreed to distinguish between distributors who sell the product and preferred members who merely want to use the products. Ackman, who knows little or nothing about network marketing or even how to pick stocks as evidenced by his huge losses on HLF short not to mention VRX recently and JCP, BORDERS, TARGET etc.  scoffed at this idea and still claims that he sees HLF going to zero. But of course he does. His reputation is at stake and he has already lost approximately $700 million on this very reckless and poorly research HLF short play. And by the way, didn’t he also say he was bullish on VRX right up until he pulled the plug and sold it AT A $4 BILLION LOSS??? Ackman’s word is not his bond. His word is meaningless. He will say he is staying with his HLF short POS and then pull the plg and cover seconds later.

Herbalife reported 18,652 new members in North America in the first quarter, that number does not include the preferred members, a contingent that is several times larger than the distributors who actually sell the product to others. (Since Herbalife began separating these two categories in mid-January, 80% of new U.S. recruits signed up as preferred members, the company said.)

Previously, the Herbalife bashers claim was that Herbalife did not have any customers. Now Herbalife is proving they do. And now the Ackmanaholics Herbalife bashers look at this as bad news for Herbalife??????????? I don’t think so. It proves what Herbalife has been saying all along. That there are real customers. And I am certain that is the way the street saw it too based on the huge rally on Thursday AH and on Friday.

The total combined number of new U.S. distributors and preferred members is just slightly below what it was last year: In the first quarter of 2016, Herbalife disclosed 83,276 new North American recruits, of which about 80,200 were in the U.S. This year, the number was 78,900 for the same period, a decline of 1.7%, according to the company.

But, take into consideration the constant attacks by Ackman and his shills. Contrary to what Ackman and his shills say, this has leaked out to the general public and has affected Herbalife to some degree. Mainstreet is very much aware of this and not because of that Ackman informercial mislabeled a documentary.  However, in spite of Ackman’s unsubstantiated remarks, Herbalife still continued to grow massively outpacing other network marketing-MLM companies in North America.

And of course, you have to take into account the current state of the economy and that USA had a presidential election in 2016. These things always create turmoil in the the markets.  ALL told, Herbalife’s numbers were very impressive if not extraordinary.

Even before the quarter ended, there were signs that Ackman and other Herbalife detractors had underestimated the number of consumers amid the company’s distributor ranks. This is nothing new. In 2012, Ackman also underestimated and misjudged when herbalife reps would renew. It was a huge miscalulation.

When the FTC sent settlement checks earlier this year to supposed Herbalife “victims” who had supposedly never made any money as distributors, many of those who are now preferred members received them. Fans of the diet and nutrition products who never intended to resell them, some of those people said they planned to spend the settlement money on more Herbalife shakes and protein bars. Put another way, that FTC fine is being redirected  back to Herbalife and Herbalife did not pay a fine to end the FTC investigation. The FTC does not operate that way. If Herbalife was guilty of any wrong doing, they would have been shut down. They weren’t. Case closed. Except in the minds of Ackman and his nutty follower(s)

Some will remember that Herbalife faced a major challenge back in 1985. Prior to the media attack then, Herbalife’s sales were over $512 million annually and were up to over $90 million a month in January, 1985. After the media attack, Herbalife sales dropped all the way down to only $10 million annually.  This occurred in the 1980s. We all know Herbalife came roaring back. Also, I think that challenge was far more potent that what little weenie Ackman has offered. Herbalife is very resilent and has always proved that they are following the laws. Legal and ethical.

The FTC was yanked into this by Ackman via his buddy Sen. Markey.  What was the result? Ackman lost again and we haven’t heard from Sen. Markey. I wonder if he is still close friends with ACKMAN after this embarrassment???? And how about those two AGs who were such good buddies with Billy boy, where are they? Also been very quiet.

Sen. Markey may be eating ice cream cones, but he has had very little to do with his (former??) good buddy Billy boy Ackman

As already mentioned, that FTC settlement to so called Herbalife “victims” has brought more former distributors and preferred members back to Herbalife and they are using that money to buy more Herbalife products.  So the settlement is actually being redirected back to Herbalife. Interesting. Or at least much of it.

Also, Herbalife as we all know has their WinBack program in place which has been very successful bringing back more former distributors and preferred members. And of course  Herbalife reps are hard at work building their businesses. I see the button “Lose Weight Now – Ask Me How” everywhere and Herbalife reps inviting people to their nutrition clubs. Speaking of which, I love the nutrition clubs. They are very powerful.

Another thing, spring is always the best time of the year for Herbalife as people are focusing on losing weight for summer and warm weather season. Expect sales to SOAR. And there are ads all over for Herbalife. Not to mention that Herblaife’s product line goes beyond just weight loss to sports supplements, wellness products, skin care and more.  All of these things are positives and I expect Herbalife to have a OUTSTANDING 2nd quarter.

The squeeze on Ackman tightened up considerably last Thursday. Expect to get even tighter.  MOASS is here.

I also enjoy playing with quoththeraven aka Chris Irons, Ackman, his braindead shills and the stupid and ignorant HLF shorts.  Every single time they open their mouths via the internet with outrageus, ridiculous “what ifs”  and “maybes” Doom & Gloom predictions, yet they are always wrong and I am always right. I look forward to doing it again next quarter and watching them be oh sooo wrong yet again. My guess is that Ackman will be gone by then. But this guy will continue. I guess he really needs that $35 an article and a penny per click from the garbage he writes on SA.

Hey Chris, so there is no hard feelings, I have  some friends in Philly who may be able to help you. They are looking for a gardener and someone to mow their lawn. Probably will pay better than writing garbage on Seeking alpha and more ethical than promoting Pump & Dump pennystock junk. Of course, this is assuming you really do live in Philly and are fit enough to    run a lawn mower and do  garndening work.  Do you really live in Philly? Perhaps that is total bull too.

Ackmanaholics and shills are really funny.  No matter  how many times they are wrong, which is everytime, they still maintain they are right and think they can manipulate t he market with their b.s.  It never works! They are like the guy who hits himself on the head with a hammer. He should only have to do that one time to realize, “Ouch, that hurts.”

Herbalife had great earnings as I and so many other experienced investors indicated long before earnings was announced. I made it obvious that I was long a week before and was expecting great earnings. I increased my POS on HLF, bought calls, sold puts and bought more shares. And do you know how many companies would love to have the numbers that Herbalife produced on Thursday? Do you know how many MLM companies would love to acquire 83,276 new distributors just in North America in 1 yr and without the noise and distraction of that lunatic Ackman???

Clearly, what Herbalife did on Thursday was nothing short of mind boggling.

BTW, here are some of my other holdings. Obviously, I can’t put an image of my account on here.  I know how to invest successfully. Unlike Ackman and Chris Irons. BTW, did you know that even though Chris Irons along with his idol Ackman, makes wise cracks about Herbalife reps, calls them “get rich quick money hungry scam artists” Do you know how he makes his living? He is a PUMPnDUMP pennsystock promoter.

And interesting too, in another tweet that I received made by Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, he indicates he wants the name calling stopped but then proceeds to name call Michael O. Johnson and new Herbalife CEO. Well, well. Those of us who ever read his stuff have come to expect this.  No surprise.

Hey Chris, my friends in Philly really are looking for someone to mow their grass and be their gardener. At least this would allow you to make an honest living, for a change.  And no doubt more $$$ than what you make now. IF you are healthy enough to do it that is.

Pershing Sq investors redeeming in droves. Ackman’s Losses on insane VRX long bet now estimated to be over $4 billion. Expect Ackman to concede on reckless Herbalife SHORT bet next.

May 4,  2017- Latest estimates are that Ackman lost over $4 billion by holding on to his insane VRX long bet. Shorts got rich off of it. How many times  did the naive Ackman followers warn me  not to bet against Ackman, after all he is a smart guy, is a billionaire with a Harvard degree.  And how many times did I say, “That doesn’t mean squat.”

And how many times  did Ackman call Valeant a “strong buy”, “oversold”,  “has great management” “I’m staying long” etc., etc. Ackman stayed long on VRX and consistently said he was bullish right up to seconds before he unloaded it.  Expect Ackman to do the same with his equally insane, reckless, winless and crazy HLF short play.

As I am writing this, Herbalife just reported first quarter earnings. The results were really bad news for Ackman, Pershing Sq investors, HLF BEARS and anyone who counted Herbalife out and were banking on Ackman’s “genius”

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/shares-of-herbalife-rally-on-upbeat-2017-outlook-2017-05-04?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

By the way, I was not alone. Lot’s of people shorted VRX and disregarded Ackman. Just like lots of people are long HLF and are disregarding his equally bad opinions on Herbalife.  How many more bad bets does Ackman have to make before certain people wake up and realize the truth.

ACKMAN is not a great investor HE is the worst of Wall Street.  No hedge fund manager has been more wrong more often than this imbecile.

While his followers deify him and see Ackman as godlike and infallible, real investors see him   for what he really is. A clown who would probably sell his first born to make a buck. A modern day PT Barnum full of hype and also full of something else.

This substantiates a couple of things. First and foremost that Ackman is NOT the great investor/genuis that some people make him out to be.  That his word is utterly worthless. He makes reckless bets and loses massively.  That his shills had no earthly clue what they are talking about. And that those of us who warned about Valeant were right on the money. While those who supported Ackman were as usual so wrong. Like Fly on the Wall aka Quoththeraven using just another alias was so bullish on VRX .

Ackman is just as wrong on HLF short and CMG long. In fact CMG is looking to be Ackman’s next Valeant RE: Huge Failure that is after he loses his ass(ets) on his reckless HLF SHORT PLAY.

Ackman concedes on Valeant….

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-13/valeant-falls-as-bill-ackman-sells-out-departs-company-s-board?utm_content=billionaires&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-billionaires

I posted yesterday that Pershing Sq was imploding and 2017 would be their worst year ever! BINGO!

Bill Ackman has finally conceded defeat on Valeant Pharmaceuticals International Inc.

After waging a costly and outspoken public defense of the controversial drugmaker, its once-biggest champion sold his entire stake in the company at a loss and said he will leave the board.

Precise figures are hard to come by, but public filings suggest that Ackman’s Pershing Square Capital Management may have lost $2.8-$3 billion just on the Valeant shares it owned at the end of 2016, with overall losses likely to be much higher. The shares have plunged more than 95 percent from their peak.

So now Valeant can join the ranks of the other Ackman losses.

Hopefully this proves what I have been saying for a very long time.

1. Ackman is not a investor. He is a gambler and wrong more often then he is right
2. He takes huge risks. With VRX he lost an estimated $2.8 billion
3.  His word is worthless. Up untill yesterday he was stating that  he was still long VRX . .Now he has bailed. He will do the same with the HLF shorts.  He will    say, “Untill the ends of the earth” And then will turn on a dime and exit. HLF shorts will be stuck trying to pick up the pieces.
4.  Every prediction I have ever made related to Herbalife/Ackman has come true. Everything Ackman and his low paid shills have said, have failed.Now onto Herbalife…….ICAHN BUYS MORE SHARES OF HLF ON Monday, 3/13/2017   http://finance.yahoo.com/video/todays-chart-herbalife-jumps-carl-160147950.html

 March 3, 2017- I originally wrote this back in July and was so severely attacked by the Ackmanaholics. How dare I,  a mere mortal challenge the great Billy Ackman with his Harvard degree and rapidly declining billionaire status? Who am I to challenge this guy? But check the facts. I have been right all along and as usual the little billy ackmans, the Ackmanaholics were as usual, WRONG.

Valeant reported earnings this week. Results were horrible. Even though Ackman has been hyping this company up and stating that it is a strong turnaround, it gets worse all the time for Valeant and no real analyst, or Wall Street as a whole or any experienced investors are excited about Valeant. Bad earnings and more bad news. Isn’t it interesting that VRX stock and Valeant started to fall apart right after Ackman entered the picture? And keeps going lower??? He never gets it right.  As I have been stating for several years now, Ackman’s word is not his bond. He is a modern day PT BARNUM minus the charm, charisma and talent that PT had but the same show boater and in the stock market always so wrong and full of sh’t.

If you ask me, Ackman should trade in his HARVARD DEGREE for a stock market or economics 101 course. He is utterly clueless.

I knew all about Ackman long before his Valeant mistake and even long before his reckless, losing HLF short bet. I predicted he would fall. And he has and so badly. Even worse than I imagined.

Back in 2014, Billy boy created a facade that he wanted to befriend his long time rival Carl Icahn. Ackman said  he wanted forgiveness, was wrong and wanted to be friends. Look at the picture below as this modern day version of Judas makes a fake embrace with Icahn. I am sure Icahn never bought it. Three days later Billy boy went on the offense once again with Icahn and Herbalife and launched his “Herbalife DEATHBLOW” (HAHAHAHAHAHA) Ackman said he was going to unveil a horrible scam that he claimed was Herbalife. We all know the result of that. To refresh you it went horribly against Ackman. No suprise. I and so many other predicted it.

MY POINT??? Many of you are still long on VRX, short on HLF and perhaps still invested in Pershing Squares. You may believe the bullsh’t Ackman diseminates. Don’t believe this guy. No hedge fund manager has been more wrong, more often than Ackman.  Look at VRX and HLF as just two examples. And never believe anything Ackman says or fall for fake hugs. Total b.s. by Ackman and show.  Remember, Judas kissed Jesus just before he betrayed him. Don’t expect anything less from Billy-boy.

And the fact that he is going through a divorce says a lot about his character. Even his own family wants no part of him.

The worst is yet to come for Ackman with VRX.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/quick-reminder-bill-ackmans-worst-212654036.html

No relief in sight for VRX. Still a strong sell. Still showing the imcompetence of Billy Ackman. Nobody with even one iota of experience or knowledge is banking on Valeant to make a comeback. Both during trading today and after hours VRX showed more losses.  If this were a normal stock that had risen to major highs or was showing some life, this would be no big deal. However, with VRX, this stock has been tanking since it was at $270 no long ago.  Is there a bottom on VRX? It might be 0.

Valeant Pharmaceuticals International, Inc. (VRX)

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15.16-1.55 (-9.25%)

As mentioned below, it is extremely  doubtful if Valeant can or will ever turn around. Too much debt. Too many issues. Whenever it  takes one step forward, it also takes    five steps backward.

 https://finance.yahoo.com/m/c968af39-367f-3b64-89f0-eb5381939ea0/ss_don%26%2339%3Bt-count-on.html

January 23, 2017-Valeant (VRX) continues to fall.

13.99-0.74 (-5.02%)

At close: 4:01PM EST

Why is it that everything Ackman touches turns into dog poop?  Now we know why more and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares and more and more VRX longs are selling and going short.

This could be in Ackman’s future. Revolt from unhappy investors who bought into Ackman’s bullsh’t

 No relief in the near term for Valeant. Future looks very bleak.  While I know that the Valeant CEO  is showing a lot of bravado in making his company look like a turn around target, and Bill Ackman has maintained his bullishness, Wall Street is not impressed. Here is what the analysts are saying:

That was the view of analysts at TD Securities and BMO, among others, who argued that Valeant will need more sales to meaningfully reduce its debt, and JPMorgan’s Chris Schott and team note that there’s still a “long road to recovery” ahead. They explain why:

We continue to see a long road to recovery for Valeant. While select asset divestitures should help stabilize shares and address leverage concerns, we note that the $2.1bn of net proceeds from asset sales to date compare with a roughly $30bn debt position. Currently, we do not see a compelling SOTP argument for shares and see a number of uncertainties remaining around Valeant’s business. We remain Neutral.

At best, and this is being overly optimistic, Valeant has a very long road to recovery. More likely, recovery will never happen. Too much debt. Too many issues.

http://blogs.barrons.com/stockstowatchtoday/2017/01/11/valeant-pharmaceuticals-a-long-road-to-recovery/?mod=yahoobarrons&ru=yahoo&yptr=yahoo

Valeant did have a blipp up yesterday, but before Valeant bulls and the Ackman supporters who all seem to have little if any real stock market experience and knowledge  get all excited, let’s not forget that VRX has dropped over 95% from it’s highs. This was a $270 stock not long ago.  So how meaningful is a brief 18% jump that we saw on Tuesday after such a huge drop and especially when it fell right back into negative territory today?  As one who has been in this game for a very long time, it tells me that Wall Street is not buying the hype. VRX is still a strong sell and likely to fall all the way to 0.

Regarding Ackman, I am sure that when VRX goes to zero, he will be claiming that it is a strong buy because it can’t go any lower.

UPDATE:  October 8, 2016-Did I or did I not warn everyone to NOT listen to Ackman on his bullishness on Valeant. And did I or did I not warn everyone not to go long, but stay short and buy puts on VRX? Looks like those braindead Ackman trolls who were having such a good time making wise cracks to me and other savvy investors on  as usual, were totally wrong and all excited over nothing.

Even though I have been warning about VRX for months and Ackman and his knucklehead shills have been hyping VRX for the same length of time, VRX continues to drop propitiously with still no end in sight to selling.  VRX was down another 15% in September.

http://www.fool.com/investing/2016/10/07/these-2-factors-pushed-valeant-pharmaceuticals-int.aspx?source=yahoo-2&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=yahoo-2&yptr=yahoo

VRX is down over 90% since Ackman got involved with it. Most of Ackman’s portfolio is bleeding red. He has had the worst performance of any hedge fund manager over the last two years. Ackman’s Pershing (or is that perishing) Fund is lagging the S&P 500 and Hedge Funds as a whole not to mention the market as whole for over two years.

Meanwhile, Herbalife which Ackman is short on had been SOARING! To add insult to injury. Last August, twice in a week,  Ackman no doubt deliberately lied by stating that Icahn was selling his shares of Herbalife. It is no secret that Ackman and Icahn are not friends. There is no relationship between them. There was no correspondence. So how could Ackman posisbly know what Icahn was going to do? He couldn’t and didn’t. So essentially he lied deliberately hoping to create a massive selloff on Herbalife which failed massively. Instead, Icahn came out and told the truth which sent HLF shares soaring. Any credibility that Ackman may have had is surely gone now. Icahn added even more to his HLF long POS really putting the squeeze on Ackman.

August 25-2016-The bad news just keeps on coming from Pershing Square and I have to wonder how many more Pershing Square investors redeemed shares this week and last week. Not looking pretty for Ackman. This article came out on Sunday, August 21, 2016. Ackman is selling off even more investments to cover losses. 

http://www.investopedia.com/news/pershing-square-cuts-positions-fight-losses-vrx-zts/?partner=YahooSA&yptr=yahoo

VRX sold off during normal trading and really got walloped in after hours losing almost all of the blipp up inflated gains it made on Tuesday.  23.90 -3.42 (-12.52%)
After hours: Aug 10, 7:59 PM EDT

But wait untill tomorrow. This news came out after the bell on Wednesday:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/valeant-under-criminal-investigation-over-011946078.html

http://www.wsj.com/articles/valeant-under-criminal-investigation-1470868752?ru=yahoo?mod=yahoo_itp&yptr=yahoo

I and others have warned many times that Ackman is not an investor, but a reckless gambler. Last time he bought a large block of VRX stock, he bought at $89, VRX had a very temporary popup to $97 and then came crashing all the way down to $18.  No savvy investor would stay long let alone buy additional shares in a troubled company like Valeant. But he did it again buying a large block just ahead of Valeant’s earnings expected the news would propel VRX stock to new highs. As we now know, VRX did have a small popup, which was short lived even before the news came out after the bell on Wednesday.  It’s anyone’s guess how low VRX will drop now.

Clearly, Ackman is over  his head in this one. As if shorting HLF wasn’t a very stupid move, he also went long on this dog Valeant.  I wouldn’t want to be a shareholder with Pershing Sq and have Ackman as my financial manager.

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AUGUST 10, 2016-Billy Ackman is much like the boy who cried wolf. How many times can he create a fake out to investors before they realize that he is just so full of crap?

Take yesterday for example. Valeant had earnings and posted a HUGE miss. Everyone knew the miss was coming. However, Billy had a meeting with his investors sometime before earnings desperately trying to keep more Pershing Sq. investors from leaving. He   did say there would be news coming from Valeant about a recovery with a positive outlook and strong guidance looking forward. BUT GUYS, Valeant is deep in debt with ever decreasing sales. They missed earnings by a country mile yesterday. Ackman and Valeant can make all sorts of promises. We have been hearing these promises for over a year now. Have they ever been right? Nope. So why believe any different now? You shouldn’t. Experienced investors will recall we heard the same sort of crap from Enron and we all know how that turned out.

While some Pershing Sq investors may be relieved that Ackman made a paper gain of $113 million for them yesterday in his Pershing Sq  fund. This is vs a approx $3 billion loss over the last year. Even a grade schooler can figure out that is still a losing situation.

While experienced investors rely on EPS to judge the forward growth of a stock, Ackman/Persh Share investors seem to be relying on BS and hopium….I hope this stock can turn around. How many investors have lost tons with that mentality.

I maintain my short POS on VRX and in fact increased it with more puts. Note also today that put volume is inordinately high, not a bullish sign. Investors are expecting more selling off on Valeant. Also, should be noted, that it was rumored that most of the pop yesterday came from Ackman who took the cash he recieved from selling Canadian Pacific and dumped it into VRX. This may be seem noble to some, but remember, he did this when VRX was @ $89 too and what happened? VRX tanked shortly thereafter. All Ackman did was expose his investors to even more risk.  REMEMBER: Ackman is a gambler, not an investor. Uusally wrong, always in denial.

When Ackman is wrong, he is really wrong……..

http://www.therealbillackman.com/when-ackmans-wrong/

August 9, 2016-Although I was widely ridiculed and called all sorts of names for calling what is true, Pershing Square Investor Redemptions, the facts are in and just as I said, Pershing Sq investors have been redeeming with many more to come. This is just the beginning. The beginning of the end for Ackman’s Pershing Square.

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/eyes-redemptions-pershing-square-160000812.html

This is from July……….

On Tuesday news releases came out announcing for the first time what I have been predicting for over a year and half, that Pershing Sq investors were dumping shares of Ackman’s failing fund.

Of course it didn’t take long for Ackman’s bubbleheads to frivously  to try to  rebutt me with lame excuses as to why investors could not get out of the fund. I countered with examples of how others have gotten out of funds where managers insisted they were locked into for periods of time. Still they insisted that I was wrong, investors could not pull their money out and why should they, after all Ackman was such a “crackerjack” top notch investment expert. (Yeah Right!!!) Ackman is a gambler, not an investor. He has had many losses.

On Tuesday if was revealed that Pershing Square investors redeemed over $600 million from Ackman’s fund. However, the bad news is that these are not the newest numbers. When they come out, expect the amount of redemptions to be much higher. In the not too distant future, we can expect redemptions to easily exceed $1 BILLION.

For the real dope on Bill Ackman   go to http://www.therealbillackman.com

Easy to see why, as I predicted back in December, 2014, Ackman’s Pershing Sq Fund was ripe for a big fall. Anyone with any real investment experience could see it. Of course the Ackman shills were all over me. “You’re insane Ackmanscam. What do you know. Show me some charts. How did you arrive at this?” etc., etc. But what happened? Pershing Sq have their worst performance ever.

Why does everything Ackman  touch turn into dog poop?  And why do his mindless followers always suck  up everything he says with so much blind hope???

Then in December, 2015 I once again predicted that Pershing Sq would have another bad year that would even surpass what we saw in 2015. Of course, you guessed it, Ackman’s foolhardy followers were once again calling me names making wise cracks, saying that investors were locked in and wouldn’t sell anyway, after all Ackman has this great investment record (yeah right, what were they smoking) and that the fund  would bounce back after one bad year. Even Ackman tried to reassure investors via conference calls and memos that 2016 would be a banner yeat. A turnaround. He was feeling good about his Herbalife short POS and Valeant which he just bought in to. He also felt his other investments would do well. Those that were down would bounce back.

But what happened? 2016 has been an even worse year for Pershing Sq than 2015 was and 2015 was there worse year ever. Herbalife continued to run  up, totally opposite of what Ackman predicted while his new log POS with Valeant turned out to be an even bigger disaster dropping from $270 to as low as $19 (ouch!!!!!)

Ackman is usually wrong and always in denial

No doubt the beating Ackman is taking on his HLF short POS and VRX long POS along with other investment losses and the large liquidation of shares by investors is taking it’s toll on Ackman. Those of us who have watched Ackman for many years say that his recent behavior is “off the wall”, “insane” “concerning” and “peculiar” even for Ackman. Billy-boy does seem quite frustrated and perturbed and acting very strangely. I mean, who does a victory lap when they are being stomped like Ackman did yesterday and has been doing since Friday.

We know that Ackman was embarrassed by the pounding he took on his JCP investment losing over $500 million and didn’t want to suffer that kind of embarrassment ever again. But now he has two big losers. His  HLF short POS and his VRX long POS. More to the point, the recent decision by the FTC regarding Herbalife ($HLF) proves that Ackman is totally wrong. He hates to face it. But he was wrong and he has lost. Just like he has lost so many times in the past.

Ackman   said way back in 2012 that Herbalife stock would go to zero. Guess what? At it’s current price of $65, it is a long way from zero and Ackman predicted this Herbalife  downfall when HLF was trading @ $42. Ackman has taken a huge loss on this something in the neighborhoold of $800 million and growing as HLF stock continues to climb.

But this is not Ackman’s only loss. He has had many others.

His paid shills and Ackman don’t like to be reminded about these, but hey, there they are.  Instead all we have been hearing for the last few years is that, “Ackman is a smart guy. I’m going to follow him.” OR “Ackman and his Harvard degree cannot be wrong.”

Guess again.

Speaking of losses, on VRX Ackman’s losses have been projected to be around $3 billion. Even for a billionaire, that is a huge loss. No wonder Ackman is acting so wacky. Even wackier than normal for him.

Also easy to see why so many Pershing Sq investors are pulling money out. There are so many other places they could have put there money and so many other places available now much better than with Ackman’s Pershing (or is that perishing) Fund.

And let’s not forget Fannie Mae, another huge Ackman blunder. Of course all the time Ackman cheerleaded this play too. But once again, what happened??

Despite all of the hype and talk, Ackman is nothing more than a crybaby in a schoolyard. He talks a great story when on CNBC and on conference calls, but his results show something quite different.

Ackman’s HLF short POS is dragging him straight to hell. He overpromised on this and caused a lot of shorts to lose big $$$ following his lead and based on his “research” And he has caused a lot of Pershing Sq. investors to lose big $$$ in real money not to mention opportunity cost had they been in a different better investment. As long as Pershing Sq investors stay with Ackman, he will drag them right down with him.

I have made many predictions about Ackman and they have all come true. If you are still holding on to your Pershing Sq funds in hopes of a miraculous rebound, a dead cat bounce, hahaha, then go to Pershing Sq and ask Ackman to sell you the Washington Bridge or the Statue of Liberty. He will probably convince you that he can. Naivete is cute with children, not adults.

It’s here! Ackman’s “BETTING ON ZERO” opens today. Will probably close next week. Film expected to fail badly and become his last Scam against Herbalife

March 17, 2017

Betting on Zero, the so called  documentary allegedly funded by Bill Ackman and produced by one of Ackman’s old school buddies is slated for release today in select locations.  It has already been written off by Wall Streeters and the main street general public will have little if any interest in this.

Here are the facts about this film

http://www.bettingonzero.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwhpnGBRDKpY-My9rdutABEiQAWNcslLrs9ob6_fL2j8sKiZEp-uYS3BJWmrxVnvbQaSqHQYoaAu158P8HAQ

Why? We all know Ackman. He always over promises and under delivers.  Claims he has something new. In reality just the same old nonsense. Ackman is just more  hype and nonense. Why do you think he is called “A Modern Day PT Barnum”?

Even those in the Ackman camp have their doubts about this so called documentary. They are already creating an out claiming that DC insiders are trying to block people from seeing this Ackman nformercial. NOT TRUE! There is no evidence to support that.  Just more hogwash from Ackman shills so that when the film bombs they can claim foul play.

Seriously. Why would anyone want to pay to see this when they have already heard all of this before and for free? Everyone by now knows that the FTC ruled in favor of Herbalife. The $200 million fine is being rerouted back to Herbalife as so called “victims” are actually happy Herbalife people who are or will be using that money to buy more Herbalife products.

The general public is also very well tuned into the  Herbalife-Ackman saga since it started nearly 5 years ago. Many are sick and tired of hearing about it. Many still remember the fiasco that happened back in the 1980s, circa 1985 when the FTC, the FDA and Attorney Generals all across the land went after Herbalife vigorously. And they also remember that Herbalife was cleared back then also.

The alleged Ackman funded informercial mistitled a documentary will bomb badly. Just as it did last year.  There is a twitter account that was set up over a year ago to support this soon to bomb again film and it has about 500 followers. Pretty small wouldn’t you say? And my guess is that most of these 500 followers are primarily one person with 499 aliases. (Since posting this several days ago, the followers there suddenly popped up to over 600. New people. New interest? Hardly. Try new aliases. Shells created by quoththeraven desperately trying to create interest in this soon to bomb Ackman informercial. If only they can clone people like they create fake aliases…)  

Also interesting, is that on their facebook page, Bettingonzero has a so called website set up for reviews and ratings. BUT try to log on. You can’t obviously just another scam perpetrated by Ackman’s naive followers who have been so incredibly naive as to bet the bank on this soon to flop film. It will flop just as it did last year.

With all the things that have gone against Ackman lately and for the last almost 5 years, it is obvious that Betting On Zero will be Ackman’s last dance. He has nothing else and when this bombs, it will finally expose Ackman for the complete fool and liar that he is.

And there is another twitter page that was set up to support Herbalife and tell the facts about Betting on zero. It’s appropiately called BettingOnZeroSCAM.

It’s all over   for Ackman…………………………..

This is a new article from The Street reporting on Bill Ackman and his failed attempt to take down Herbalife. Guys, it’s over. Ackman and his shills probably won’t admit this…YET. But it is over for Ackman.

Here is the link to the article:

 

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14017944/1/ackman-lost-bet-on-herbalife.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

 

Here are some Highlights:

 

Judging by stock market indications, hedge fund boss Bill Ackman has lost his $1-billion short bet on Herbalife (HLF) .

Ackman’s 2012 shorting attempt of Herbalife-claiming that the company is a pyramid scheme-seems in all likelihood, to have gone kaput.

Shares are at much higher levels, making Ackman’s big short a very costly bet.

We think that Ackman, famous for taking contrarian positions on Valeant(VRX) and Chipotle (CMG) , should probably throw in the towel and accept Herbalife’s relentless growth curve.

Since the early days where Mark Hughes was allegedly, “selling a protein powder out of his car trunk,” the product has transformed into a worldwide nutrition phenomenon.

 

Ackman’s contention that the company has zero genuine customers has been proved wrong. Herbalife now reports 300,000 preferred members, including former distributors.

While annual sales have oscillated between $4 billion and $5 billion since 2012, Herbalife was not found guilty of operating a pyramid scheme by the Federal Trade Commission (FTC).

Yes, the FTC did enter into a settlement with Herbalife where the company agreed to pay $200 million, but that’s not even a significant chunk of its annual sales.

Herbalife is not a dubious enterprise built on an elaborate pyramid scheme. In fact, a Fortune article reported how so-called Herbalife victims are actually fans of the product, who went out and bought more Herbalife products with the money they received as FTC checks.

NOTE:  Fortune article reported how so-called Herbalife victims are actually fans of the product, who went out and bought more Herbalife products with the money they received as FTC checks. Remember how the Ackmanaholics were raving on how Ackman and the shorts won because Herbalife was slapped with a fine? lol.  That fine represented just a sliver of Herbalife’s gross earnings and as we now know, it is coming back to Herbalife. 

If Ackman’s tirade against Herbalife carried truth, then after five years and an FTC investigation surely some indication of fraud would have come up.

There are no reports of any of this happening and Ackman’s ‘philanthropic‘ fight against Herbalife seems unwinnable.

On the contrary, customer numbers are on the rise. Herbalife may be battling challenges in China, but these aren’t linked to any adverse government inquiry complexities. China has a strict policy against multi-level marketing in the country, so for the government to allow Herbalife to operate there goes to show that it’s probably legitimate.

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And of course Herbalife is not Ackman’s only bad judgement and problem. There is also Valeant which continues to hit fresh new lows daily. As we all now know, Valeant had earnings recently, way off and has been tanking ever since. For any other stock to drop, is not unusual. But for Valeant which was already down over 90% to continue to drop is a extremely bearish sign. Plus more bad news.

Below are a series of posts I made over the past year. Check them out. It is  hindsight now, foresight at the time I wrote them. Who was right every single time and who was wrong every single time? HELLO? Not looking for a crown just trying to make a point. Be careful who you listen to.

I warned Herbalife longs to stay the course because Ackman had nothing of substance.  BINGO!

I warned HLF shorts to let  go and cover before it was too late. BINGO!

I warned Valeant longs to sell before the real selling started. BINGO!

I warned Pershing Sq investors to redeem going back to 2014 because Pershing Square was going to fall hard and it did in 2015 and 2016 and again in 2017. BINGO!

So what does Ackman have left? Basically nothing. He will try to hype ‘Betting on Zero’ which will flop as it did last year. BTW, scroll down and read my comments about ‘Betting on Zero’ before it became fact and also idiot actor Alec Baldwin.

 

 

August 31, 2016

A lot of irrational exuberance regarding Valeant  after last earnings. My message box had many messages and wise cracks from the naive Ackman followers who were so happy to see that despite Valeant getting hammered with horrible earnings, their stock VRX still popped up. They were calling me all sorts of names, making wise cracks about my investment skills and so on. I remained calm and told them the rise in VRX would be temporary. Even I didn’t know how temporary it would be. Despite Ackman’s bullishness, VRX has been trailing making small gains followed by selloffs.  Many sophisticated investors expect VRX to fall to zero. 

I have been an investor for nearly 30 years and have seen it all. It was rumored and I think obvious that Ackman was moving VRX on Tuesday, taking profits from selling Canadian Pacific and pouring it into VRX. He also had a meeting with his investors some time ago and no doubt suggested they invest too. But alas, on Wednesday, VRX started to selloff   during normal trading and after hours bad news came out that Valeant is under criminal investigation. The losses  started intraday on Wednesday, then AH Wednesday night and during trading on Thursday wiped out all gains made on VRX Tuesday. So Ackman’s big investment was just another loss for Ackman. Not that that is anything new. He seems to lose very frequently.

On Wednesday it was reported that Ackman made about $100 million paper profit on Tuesday. But what is $100 paper profit, albeit a temporary, very temporary paper profit versus a approximate $2 billion loss that Ackman has on Valeant. Remember, VRX tanked over 90% since Ackman bought in.  And as mentioned above, that paper profit from Tuesday has already been erased.

From 4 days ago……………

August 8-2016-Herbalife 2nd qtr earnings are now history and so is Ackman and his paid for shills. But like a snake, may be dead, but not truly dead untill you cut it’s head off.

I don’t think that any rational, intelligent real investor  takes Ackman or his misguided, low paid shills seriously anymore and I hope that I have played a role in doing that. However, there may be some newbies out there who may still take Ackman seriously because of his billionaire net worth (which has been shrinking much like the 1980s Incredible Shrinking Woman),  or because he has a Harvard Degree (lol.)  How many others have Harvard Degrees who are also horrible at investing or whatever reason they can come up with and are unaware of his many investment losses and that he really is nothing special about investing. He had one big win MBIA. But so many losses.  He bankrupted Gotham Partners and it looks like Pershing Sq is on it’s way to becoming Gotham Partners II

The future for people who follow Ackman, invest with him looks like this…..

Want to find out how valuable Ackman’s and his followers investment advice is and how well they are doing? Ask them to change a $100, or a $50 or better yet, for Ackman followers, a $10 or even a $5 bill. Then look at their wallets. Will look like this…..

Never take advice from people with empty pockets who try to tell you how to invest. This is what Ackman followers, VRX longs who bought and stayed long on VRX based on Ackman’s recommendations and Persh Sq investors look like. Empty pockets.  And they blame Herbalife for their woes??????

Ackman and  his people are the only people that I know of who are losing money by the bucketload and still want people to think they are winning. Frequently, usually wrong and always in denial. In fact, Ackman and his low paid shills think denial is a river in Egypt.

August 3,  2016-

Billy Ackman is well deserving of being called “A Modern Day Version of PT Ackman” except it is an insult to PT Barnum. Since the FTC has settled with Herbalife, Ackman and his moron shills have been comedic in their comments and opinion of what happened. That is, it would be comedic if they were joking, but they are being serious. Today Herbalife has earnings. Look for Herbalife to exceed expectations…again.  And look for Billy boy Ackman to abort his senseless, reckless, losing short play with Herbalife. Of course he will not tell you that. He will tell you ’til the ends of the earth. Just like he said a few years ago and two weeks later adjusted his short POS, bought long term puts which apparently expire worthless.  This guy just can’t win but puts on an incredible poker face. I’d hate to be against him in a card game, but in this gamble, Ackman is clearly losing and losing big.

From July….

On Wednesday, more comedy came from Ackman himself as he practically ran a  victory lap about the FTC decision despite the fact that he (Ackman) is getting stomped on this reckless, senseless and losing HLF short trade.

Ackman insists that he is staying with his HLF short POS (No matter how much of his investors money he loses??) He even accused Carl Icahn of stock manipulation.Of course this is nothing new. When Soros came on as a HLF long, Ackman was once again  quick to call for market manipulation.  Carl Icahn was 100% right when he said that Ackman is like a crybaby in a school yard.

I asked the question several years ago, “WHAT DOES ACKMAN VALUE MOST, HIS MONEY OR HIS EGO?” Obviously it is his ego. He is losing money in droves. In fact there is a new game being created about Ackman’s followers, VRX longs and HLF shorts and of course Ackman that will be called>>>>>>> BROKEMON.

Ackman’s recent  childish actions validate that Ackman is frequently wrong and always in denial.

Investors redeemed over $600 million from Ackman’s Pershing (or is that perishing) fund. Those are the number that have been reported so far. They do not reflect real numbers to date. Only Ackman knows that which probably accounts for his frantic and desperate efforts of late. When the real numbers come out, look for the amount redeemed to be over $1 BILLION. I haven’t been wrong yet. Ackman and his shills have not been right yet. And it shows in Ackman behavior.

From July 10

Everyone knows by now the FTC ruled against Ackman, Sen. Markey and in favor of  Herbalife. They clearly stated that Herbalife is NOT a pyramid scheme. You would never know it though by reading Ackman’s comments and those of his paid shills who have been all over the internet since Friday desperately trying to reframe what really happened. The major news agencies carried the right report. This is a major blow to Ackman. Here is Herbalife’s remarks and these are credible, true and accurate:

“Stronger Than Ever

Michael O. Johnson

People might tell you that opportunity is limited. That you must accept your lot in life. That value is only measured through standards set by others.

At Herbalife Nutrition, we disagree.

At our core, Herbalife Nutrition is about empowerment. We reward discipline and hard work. We fuel transformation and foster reinvention.

With our recent settlement with the FTC, we and our 4 million preferred members and distributors are focused more than ever on helping people achieve their goals – whether by losing weight, living a healthy lifestyle or earning some extra money when and how they choose through our direct sales business model.

The terms of the settlement in no way change our business model as a direct selling company but simply build upon current procedures. Because of this, we are confident and excited about the future of our business.

Every day our members show what can be achieved when they choose to make a difference. It is their stories of reinvention that inspire me, and Herbalife Nutrition’s 8,000 dedicated employees, to work harder every day.

It is for them that we move forward, stronger than ever.”

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And the market loved the news as evidenced by HLF’s huge gain on Friday.

65.255.89 (9.92%)

Here is the Wall Street Journal’s Headlines From Friday. Quite different from what Ackman and his paid shills are saying:

[$$] Ackman Dealt Blow as Herbalife Settles With FTC

All along we  have been told by the Ackman shills and Ackman himself that the FTC would rule against Herbalife. That the USA is different than Belgium even though courts in California ruled n favor of  Herbalife and withdrew charges of Herbalife being a “pyramid scheme”

We know that the Ackmanaholics, broketards or whatever you want to call them get all hot and bothered everytime Ackman sends out a memo or speaks despite the fact that he speaks with fork in tongue and is so FOS. Does anyone out there remember all of the exuberance over Ackman’s “Herbalife Deathblow” (hahahahaha) back in 2014??? But what happened? Shorts  got slaughtered like pigs. Same is  happening now.

The fact is Ackman is a liar an a fraud. He has been so wrong so often and in the end, he will no doubt abort this senseless, reckless and dangerous HLF short play. He will still play it like he is in “til the ends of the earth’ but trust me, he will pull out leaving shorts to crash and burn.

http://www.therealbillackman.com

Have I been wrong yet? Nope. Has Ackman or any of his paid shills been right yet? Nope. And remember, Herbalife has earnings coming up in August 3rd. Last year earnings were projected to be $1.05. But Herbalife beat the numbers and came in at $1.55. How much will they beat this time? And I wouldn’t be too surprised if Ackman and his moron shills are actually long on HLF.

This is from earlier this month…………….

Who do we believe reliable journalists from the WSJ, Ackman, a gambler with a $1 billion stake which he is going to lose or those “knuckleheads in bathrobes” “Ackmanaholics” Broketards” who write garbage on SA and other blogs? I think the answer is obvious.

I understand that there is a new game coming out based on Ackman’s investment results. It will be called BROKEMON. Because anyone who follows Ackmans  advice ends up broke.

Isn’t it funny how everytime some bad news comes out against Pershing Square, Bill Ackman and Valeant that Ackman attacks Herbalife? It shouldn’t be. I’ve been stating since December, 2012 that the only reason Ackman went after Herbalife in the first place was to turn his porfolio from bleeding red (as it is now) to black and just in time before 2012 ended. The massive puts and short POS he took out on HLF in December 2012, just days before options expiration by the way along with his very biased and incorrect informercial at Sohn and media blitz created a selloff on HLF and a massive profit for Ackman turning his portfolio from bleeding red to a profit almost as if by magic.

Of course the 8,000 hard working Herbalife employees, 4.5 million distributors, some of whom were working the business since 1980, the 70,000,000 very satisfied Herbalife distributors not to mention the tens of thousands of happy and profitable HLF longs were of no concern to Ackman. Only Ackman was of concern to Ackman.

What ACKMAN DID is called formenting. You create a fake story and sell it after you have taken out a short POS with the intent to make a huge profit. It should be illegal. But unfortunately it is not. It has hurt many companies and cost investors millions of $$$$.

If Ackman was truly interested in uncovering fraud as he claims he was and if  he is such a top notch crackerjack investigator of illegal pyramid and ponzi schemes, how did Visalus, Vemma, Fortune High Tech and Burn Lounge and other schemes and scams get past him? Perhaps it was because Visalus was the only company listed above that was publicly traded (not anymore) and had fallen. Thus he couldn’t short them for a profit as he did with Herbalife. HLF was ripe , or so so Ackman thought for shorting and possible profit.

Many of us warned in 2012 that Ackman was making a huge mistake. Shorting a company that has beaten earnings 22 qtrs in a row and has been previously cleared of having done no wrong doing is playing with fire.As Ackman has found out, however, he continues on with his same old, debunked nonsense while he continues to lose money for his investors.

What a jerk!

So fast forward to 2016, nothing has changed. Ackman is still trying unsuccessfully to take Herbalife down. And his only interests are self interest. Fortunately, everything he has done,  has failed. It has been said that Ackman is a gambler, not an investor. He wins occassionally, loses far more often. Look at his portfolio at present, BLEEDING RED.

Ackman has lost in the neighborhoold of $800,000,000 million on Herbalife short alone. Approximately $3 billion on VRX which continues to get hammered. Yet Ackman continues to try to make us believe that HLF is a good short POS and VRX is a strong long POS. This is in spite of the fact that real successful investors, with great investment records, unlike Ackman, have stated that VRX is headed to 0. The worst is far from over. And other successful investors and institutions have been very bullish on HLF.

Bill Ackman will not be the first billionaire with a super inflated ego to go bust. I have to wonder how many stupid, naive people he will take with him? In the not too distant future, people will be saying, “Do you remember when Bill Ackman used to be a billionaire? Do you remember his company Pershing Square?”

Pershing Square is destined to become Gotham Partners II. It is just about over for Ackman.

Enter Idiot Alec Baldwin

Ahhh Summertime. Rumor has it that Alec Baldwin will be showing this movie to his Hampton friends. So this will make two times that some people have seen the movie. Perhaps Alec is renting “Betting on Zero” from Redbox for $1. “Betting on Zero” has already bombed very badly. But Ackman like a caught   fish in bucket is still kicking hoping for a miracle. With people like Ackman, miracles never happen.

Never been to Hollywood stars party. Might be interesting to see the goings on, if anyone really watched the movie. I think it would be more fun to be a fly on the wall and watch all of the flirting, drinking, infedility, drug taking and other horrible things that take place with these kinds of people.

Maybe we could have even heard Alec call his 12 year old  daughter on the phone. Interesting the kinds of people Ackman hangs out with…

 

Or maybe we could have seen something like this incident.Imagine going to a Alec Baldwin party, you could get cursed at, have your teeth knocked out, have your girlfriend insulted and more. Great testiment to the kinds of people Ackman is buddies with.

 

June 20, 2016-Having a very delightful evening with friends at a superb restaurant in Maui -Ferraro’s Bar e Ristorante a beautiful oceanfront  dining with superb music. While there the subject of Herbalife, their recent earnings and of course Ackman came up with some of my investment friends.  One of my friends came up with a not too surprising revelation. He stated that he wondered if Ackman realized how big a fool he looks in front of Wall Street and the investment world and that all of these misses have a accumulating effect on making him look like an even bigger fool that even we initially thought the was.

http://www.bettingonzero.com/

“Betting on Zero” bombed badly as I and others indicated it would. Ack made a total butthole out of himself when he brought up  HERBALIFE at the government hearing a few weeks ago where he was supposed to discuss Valeant and again when he spoke about a week later and once again brought up Herbalife.  When is Ack going to realize that he has lost this reckless bet and he is losing more credibility everytime he speaks or attacks Herbalife?

http://www.therealbillackman.com

It’s sort of like going into a casino. When you gamble, which is what Ackman does with his investors money, you lose more than you win. Ackman’s ego is much larger than his net worth. He hates to be proven wrong. But he is oh sooo wrong.

I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. 5 weeks ago I posted that “Betting on Zero”. a cinamatic waste of film appparently funded by Ackman would be Ackman’s biggest flop to date and it has become just that. Remember the Herbalife “Deathblow” (hahahahaha) Deja Vu….

The mindnumb Ackman shill (quoththemoron) tried to say this would be a blockbuster, epic event. Of course, like Ackman, litt’l billy Ackman is never right. “Betting on Zero” bombed terribly and turned out a zero. Now Professor Birdbrain is writing more trash on SA and suggesting that the senate should investigate Herbalife. Hello birdbrain. The senate already did that over 30 years ago in May of 1985 and found nothing wrong. Try to stay up to date will you. Or at least stop lying. I know it is hard for you.

You are better off to stick with your PUMPnDUMP pennystock promotions. Perhaps you can make a living scamming people with that junk. OR perhaps business is so bad that you now have to write more stories for SA for $35 and a penny a click.  So sad.

The types of ads that pennystock pump&dump promoters use to lure the naive into their money making schemes shown below.  I wonder how many were scammed out of money on falling for this? Now these morally bankrupt promoters want us to think they are the “good guys” and are holier than holy. Yeah right! 

Well Bill Ackman is at it again, desperately trying to make some money off the reckless HLF short bet he made nearly 4 years ago. Some people just never learn. And speaking of people who never learn, THERE are the mind numb clowns who follow Billy -boy and think his very words are gospel truth and think they should be carved in stone.

Once again the Ackmanaholics are all excited  about the informercial produced by a buddy of his called “Betting on 0”  What they are too excited about to realize is that this is just old, old stuff that so many have already seen before ad nauseum. This is nothing new, just a new format for Billy-boy, a documentary which is sure to fail just like Michael Moore’s one sided, biased and inaccurate anti-Bush informercial Fanrenheit-911 which also bombed terribly even though it was shown in theatres and even on election day 2004 in which Bush won by a landslide. Ditto for the Ackman  and old school chum informercial. But the Ackmanaholics are not the most intelligent or reasonable people. They are living in a their own world. A fantasy world where Billy Ackman is King of The Universe, A god and always correct.  They live in a flowery world much like the people from the 60s who OD’ed on LSD.

As usual, something smells about Ackman’s antics and this informercial For instance:

BREAKING NEWS:  Betting on Zero’s producer and Bill Ackman were on the same crew team in college.  Why did the film’s director fail to disclose this relationship and is there a financial connection between the producer and Ackman?

In an interview before the film’s premiere, the director said the “film has gone to great lengths to remain independent of both parties.” If that’s true, why aren’t any of Herbalife’s 4 million satisfied members featured in the movie? And why were Bill Ackman and other known Herbalife detractors the only participants in the premiere’s Q&A? Why wasn’t Herbalife invited to participate in the Q&A?

Why did the film’s five Tribeca showings sell out so quickly? Is an interested billionaire behind the ticket sales?

Excellent  questions. As with the FTC facade, it only happened because of Bill Ackman’s buddy Sen. Markey. Billy-boy paid tons of money previously to Markey into his campaign efforts and allegedly paid Markey a bribe to get the FTC to go after Herbalife. Some of this I revealed in articles on twitter yesterday and previously.

Sen. Markey is really concerned about eating right and good nutriton isn’t he?

Back to ‘Betting on Zero’ LIES. …………

With “Betting on Zero’ it is Ackman allellegly trying to hype up the fake documatary by buying tickets and having empty seats. The audience at those events was sparse. Where were all the ticket buyers?

In this instance, it is Billy’s old school chum who claimed to be “neutral” but was quite biased in favor of Ackman. And it is so obvious. The film director never disclosed his relationship with Ackman but why be surprised. He is a buddy of Ackman’s. Birds of a feather flock and lie together.

And let’s put to rest that Ackman did this as his “moral obligation” Nobody bets $1 billion for moral reasons and ostensibly promise to donate it to charity. Ackman has personal issues and was looking to make a huge profit.  If he truly wanted to do something that was morally correct, there are other ways and first of all, he should have found a company that was doing things wrong. Not make  up lies and use formenting to take a stock and a company down, or at least try to.

The infamous Quoththeraven real name Chris Irons of pennystock PUMPnDUMP fame wrote the first and only review on this new Ackman informercial and not surprisingly, he was lavish in his praise for Ackman, called for Herbalife’s demise and stated that Herbalife made a “huge PR mistake by not appearing at the premiere”. If  you read my article on Quoththeraven (Chris Irons) yesterday you already know that he frequently passes along misinformation. In fact he has been called “The Fountain of Misinformation” The fact is no one from Herbalife was invited or allowed to attend the premiere which is why they were not there. Just like at the Sohn informercial in December, 2012. It was closed to Herbalife people. Totally onesided as are all of Quoththeraven’s fairy tales which he calls reviews or articles on SA.

For more facts on “Betting on 0” go here………..

http://www.bettingonzero.com/

Interesting too how Ackman faked tears and crying at one of his informercials in a feeble attempt to persuade his audience that he was sympathetic to the supposed Herbalife “victims” but never showed any remorse for the tens of thousands of JCP people who lost their jobs or the investors who lost dollars with Gotham Partners and now Pershng Square  thanks to Ackman’s pursuit of wealth no matter what it might cost someone else. Ackman is pure and simple, a phony, a liar and a charlatan.

As I stated in a tweet earlier last night, Ackman is no White Knight. In fact quite the opposite. He did it for himself, pure and simple and his huge ego believed that he could pull it off. He still thinks he can pull it off and he so wrong and losing so much money in the process. People close to Ackman feel that he has lost perspective. This Herbalife bet has consumed him. I stated in a post several years ago that it would be interesting to see what Ackman values more, his money or his ego. It appears as though it is ego. His money is vanishing very quickly. So are many of his investors in his Pershing Sq. Fund.

The 2 AGs AND there were only 2 AGs who went after Herbalife were also friends of Ackman’s. Connect the dots. How come no other AGs went after Herbalife?

Everything Ackman has tried in the past has failed from his first attack on Herbalife at Sohn back in 2012 to the Robin Hood conference to the testimonies by supposedly “Herbalife Victims” to the “Herbalife Deathblow” (hahahahaha) to memo’s, letters, tv appearances videos etc.

There is just no reason to get excited about anything Ackman does to Herbalife. He always fails and always will and there is no reason to trust or believe in anything Ackman says. Read the following very carefully………..

Ackman has been bullish on Valeant stock (NYSE:VRX) since it traded at $270. No matter how much it drops or how much bad news comes out he still remains bullish or at least says he is. Ackmans’s losses on VRX are estimated to be in excess of $2.5 billion. His losses on HLF short are estimated at $800 million.  Does this sound like a man who knows how to invest profitably? No. But there is more. read on……

The question of whether or not to listen to Bill Ackman still comes up although for the life of me I can’t understand why anyone with a I.Q. of above room temperature would believe anything Ackman has to say. So thought now would be as good a time as any to re-release this article I posted several months ago and why no one should believe anything Ackman says.

The recent situation with Valeant is living proof that Ackman is no better at picking stocks than a blindfolded monkey throwing darts.  He is just as wrong about Valeant being a great long term strong buy as he is in saying that HLF is a great short bet.

How long will Ackman hold on to this reckless long bet with Valeant (VRX)?? “Til the ends of the earth” Or untill VRX hits ZERO???   And even then he will claim it has strong comeback potental because at 0 it can’t go any lower. LOL.

Another point. Regarding another massive mistake by Ackman, shorting Herbalife and his reasons why,  Ackman and his mindnumb shills still are trying to perpetuate the saturation myth. That somehow Herbalife will run out of people to recruit and sell their products to. Think about this. How long would it take a stockbroker to saturate the market before he runs out of prospects? All the stockbrokers combined could work 24/7 for a thousand years and never reach saturation.

Ditto for Herbalife. No matter how many people Herblalife recruits. No matter how many customers they sell to, Herbalife will always be behind and there will be millions more. But don’t tell that to Ackman.

Getting back to Valeant (VRX) earlier this week, Ackman released a statement approving of the new CEO. He was excited about this. No matter what Valeant does, Ackman agrees. Of course he has to. He has placed a enormous long bet on VRX and already has a huge paper loss. He is hopelessly trying to turn it around. He did sell a substantial amount of VRX in December for a tax loss. Remember I told everyone that Ackman would pull out? His words do not meet his actions.

Now  back to Herbalife. Herbalife is performing a service with quality nutritional products and a top notch business opportunity for those willing to work. Ackman? He is a menace to America and the stock market. How many jobs did he cause JCP to lose with his wisdom? I rest my case. Ackman is not the good guy in this, he is an evil menace who has lost a very desperate and poorly planned HLF short bet.

Valeant is embedded with accounting issues and questionable products. In both cases, Billy Boy Ackman made a huge mistake and this proves that he is no investing genuis. Quite the opposite. This is why no serious investor should take his word or opinion as anything but that of a reckless gambler who makes many errors.

First of all, for the record, I warned back in December, 2014 that Ackman’s Pershing Fund would have a very bad year in 2015. And was absolutely right. I also warned in December 2015 that Ackman would do even worse in 2016. Despite wise cracks and name calling by the Ackmanaholics, I again was 100% right. Ackman’s Pershing (or is that Persihing) Fund is already down 20% just in the first 6 weeks of 2016 matching the losses of all of  2015. And that was before the huge selloff on VRX yesterday.  Are you guys getting it now????????

Several weeks ago, Bill Ackman increased his position on Valeant (NYSE: VRX) and that stock had a temporary blipp up. Ackman also reaffirmed his belief in the company. Result. Several days later VRX started to sell off. However, on February 29th, 2016,  even more bad news came out on Valeant and VRX got  hit really hard again dropping by over 18%. A huge one day loss.

Some think that Ackman is just really a bad investor. Some think that this was really just a PUMPnDUMP scheme by Ackman. In either case following Ackman has been a major mistake for those who have followed him over the years. I wrote this some time ago. Worth your time to review Ackman’s horrible track record. ……

Why should anyone listen to Bill  Ackman Part 2……

• Ackman started a fund  and sucked in a bunch of mind numb investors. What was the result?

  The fund closed about a decade later after a bad investment in a golf course that ultimately ended with investors redeeming their capital.

  Kevin Dooley / Flickr, CC

  Gothman bought a majority stake in a golf-course operator they renamed Gotham Golf. They amassed a bunch of debt snapping up other golf courses.

  Ackman wanted to merge Gotham Golf and a cash-flush real estate company First Union Real Estate Equity & Mortgage Investments to help repay the debts of the golf operator.

  In 2002, a judge struck down that merger and investors asked for their money back.

  Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-fabulous-life-of-bill-ackman-2012-12?op=1#ixzz2xeSKTzYR

  It should be noted  that after todays huge rally, HLF is right now about the same price that it was back in December, 2012 when Ackman initiated this reckless, poorly research short bet againts Herbalife. So in 2 1/2 years, Ackman has accomplished absolutely nothing except spent over $1 billion of his investors money and at least, by Ackman’s own admission, over $50 million more in lobbying and for what/ He is still deeply in the red.

  Another reason not to listen or follow Bill Ackman

  Obviously the big HLF rally today along with the one last Thursday and again earlier this week has Ackman and his paid shills worried. After the bell today, Ackman released a statement stating that Herbalife is not exonerated by US Judge.  It should be noted that this is strictly his opinion and Ackman would not comment on whether or not the FTC will exonerate Herbalife. Most feel more confident that ever that the FTC will in fact exonerate Herbalife and apparently this has Ackman very worried.

  Ackman also continues to call Herbalife a “pyramid scheme” but what does Ackman know about network marketing? Absolutely nothing. He still compares Herbalife, a legal, above board mlm company with illegal pyramids that were justifiably shut down.  Talking to Ackman about network marketing is like talking to a podiatrist about dental work instead of a dentist. It just doesn’t make any sense.

  Ackman and his paid shills frequently talk about “churn rate” in mlm and especially in Herbalife. They always forget to mention that at HLFs last earnings, Herbalife reported a record number of distributors/members of over 4 million.

  Also, anyone is any kind of sales is familiar with the 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 rule. That is  1/3 new sales people come in, 1/3 stay and 1/3 leave. This points to all sales including large companies who pay a massive salary with lucrative benefit packages.   Apparently Ackman and his paid shills never examined this or if they did, ignore it along with other details and facts.

  You would think that Ackman with his Harvard degree and billion dollar net worth would do better research before opening his big  mouth and inserting both feet.

  Herbalife shares have risen 22.3 percent in the last  three days despite Ackman’s constant media attacks as well as those by other writers who apparently work for Ackman.

  Easy to see why Ackman is worried and making even more ludicrous statements to the press.

When it comes to discussing nutritional supplements, this guy is not exactly a picture of health or a nutritional expert.

In fact compare Bill Ackman with say Herbalife’s CEO Michael O. Johnson. Quite a contrast wouldn’t you say? Even though Ackman is chronologically is at least 15 years junior to Johnson, who looks younger? Fitter? Better?

Michael O Johnson works out, takes Herbalife supplements and competes in Tri-Athlete competitions. He is fit, vibrant and full of energy. Not a grey hair anywhere.

 

 

Ackman by contrast is thin, anemic, grey, lacking energy and apparently full of something else.  His favorite food is omlettes. Breakfast of champions? Hardly. So why should anyone listen to or believe what Ackman says about nutrition and health when he obviously is not a picture of health or any kind of nutritional expert. Hmmmmm???

 

And when it comes to investing, Ackman is arrogant, sloppy and reckless. He lost over $500 million on JCP and spent over $1 billion on this short bet on HLF which he is sure to lose. Especially with the momentum Herbalife has going for it now.

His fund has underperformed in 2013. You could have made as much of a return on a no risk CD (after the high fees and commissions that Ackman and his snake oil/used car salesmen charge) and much more in a no load mutual fund. Even after it’s selloff,  HLF was still up 39% in early 2014 which is a substantially higher return than what you could have made in Ackman’s Pershing Fund. Easy to see why so many are dumping Ackman’s Fund and so few getting into it. The Pershing Fund is DEAD money.

Ackman is a hedge fund manager/short seller. His breed uses a tactic called formenting which is basically just outright lying about a company. You create a story (after you have shorted their stock and/or made a substantial put investment) and get everyone to believe your hype. It usually works.  A lot of good companies have unnecessarily been taken down by hedge fund managers using this.

Why listen to Ackman? No reason to but here is more. After all, as mentioned above, he is not a picture of health and knows nothing about nutrition. Yet he continually attacks Herbalife products with the same lack of reasoning as he does their marketing and business model which he also knows absolutely nothing about.

He claims that Herbalife products are overpriced. Compared to     what? And what research did he do to determine this. Answer? None!

 

Let’s review Ackman shall we?  His one great merit is MBIA and we have been told over and over that he stayed with this for a very long time. And yes he did score a win here. BUT….did he have to contend with the opposition he has with HLF? Did he have to contend with billionaires like Icahn, Soros, Loeb, Stiritz, large institutions and family of longs and more? No. Did he have to face  now over 4 million distributors who act like disciples for this company? NO! Was he ever $700 million in the hole on his bet with MBIA? Again – NO!

Now look at Ackmans losses financially. He bankrupted a company with Gotham Partners. A business he started in Hershey, Pa. is now a dress shop. He lost over $500 million with his bet in JCP. When he entered into that company he was boldly bragging all the wonderful things he would do. Then when he took it down he left. And he has done this before.

His fund The Pershing Fund has delivered a decent return of about 10.5%, decent for Ackman but woolefully low overall. In 2013 this fund massively lagged the market averages as a whole and is still underperforming the markets overall.  In 2012, his fund was deeplyin the red untill he manufactored the Herbalife episode and made a huge end of year profit with puts and his short position turning his fund from red to black just in time.

There are many other better, lower expence investments which also offer much lower risk. Perhaps this is why so many avoid Ackman’s fund and are dropping out. Especailly in December to avoid end of year tax consequences.

Ackman as stated also likes to attack Herbalife’s business model. What does a man who has bankrupted a business know about business? And when did Ackman ever study network marketing? Judging by his bogus comments it is very obvious he knows absolutely nothing about network marketing. The fact that he confuses legitimate network marketing with illegal Ponzi and Pyramid schemes bears this out. Ackman is utterly clueless yet acts like he understand the business very well. Need I remind you that he convinced Gotham Partners that he knew what he was doing there too. What was the result????

So why listen to Ackman? No reason to. Unless you want to lose money.

“LOSE MONEY NOW – ASK ACKMAN HOW!

• Another reason why no one should listen to Ackman:

  In mid-March, 2014,  FOX Business reported that company officials were wary of state AG inquiries as well. Schneiderman’s probe, first reported by the New York Post, adds a new dimension to the company’s legal woes given Schneiderman’s Martin Act powers. A spokesman for Herbalife said the company “takes its disclosure responsibilities seriously,” and then referred to the company’s public filings.

  But Ackman’s contributions to Schneiderman will also lead to further questioning of his tactics against the company.

  “This is an eye raiser for the public,” said Blair Horner, legislative director of the New York Public Interest Research Group.

  “The attorney has to be very careful. If he is getting involved in litigation or any sort of investigation, he has to be very careful when he is taking campaign contributions from someone involved in the fight. He is supposed to be the umpire — hard to take contributions from someone in the game.”

  A spokesman for Pershing Square declined to comment. Ackman didn’t respond to an email for comment.

  Ackman, records show, made two contributions to Schneiderman’s campaign for attorney general; one for $25,000 in July 2010, and one for $5,000 in July 2012. That same year, he also contributed to other Democratic candidates for the job, whom Schneiderman eventually beat on his way to a general election.

  He also persuaded presumably via a bribe with Sen Markey to institute the FTC investigation. This was all done with false information. Again, a typical Ackman tactic.

  In April, 2014 there was the fake FBI report stating that the FBI and DOJ were investigating Herbalife. Even the FBI could not confirm this. Three  guesses who started this.  And incidently, this occurred 3pm late on a Friday afternoon on options expiration day. How convenient.

   

• Ackman: What a guy. This from Fortune…..

  On Monday, the New York Times detailed those efforts in a front page story. The hedge fund manager has hired lobbyists, enlisted grass roots groups (in part with donations), made presentations to the SEC, and seemingly assisted others in writing letters to state attorneys general saying Herbalife is ripping people off.

  The article doesn’t say it explicitly, but the Times suggests that Ackman has stepped over the line in his attack on Herbalife (HLF), driven by his billion-dollar bet against the company and a desire to not be publicly proven wrong again. He just lost $500 million on a high profile bet on J.C. Penney (JCP) — an effort to save the troubled company.

  So again I ask, why should anyone want to listen to Ackman??? I get the feeling that savvy, astute investors are not and should not listen to this guy. Nor should anyone else. The only people who listen to Ackman are the financially illiterate looking for easy money and a free windfall. Like Ackman, they are gamblers, not investors.

  And what about the “experts” Ackman calls in for counsel?

  One of the first five analysts Ackman hired was his guide from a fishing trip.  He also hired  a tennis pro and a guy he met in a cab.

  Source: Forbes

  Need we  discuss the “experts” he has writing articles on Seeking alpha an other places? Do these guys sound credible and honorable to you? I rest my case.

  In summary, why listen to Ackman, no reason to. He has no facts and operates based on greed and ego. He wants to win even if he is dead wrong and  8,000  hard working Herbalife employees could potentially lose their jobs, , 4.5 million reps could use their livlihood and millions of Herbalife members would lose access to products they love if Ackman could pull off this scam, is of no concern to him.  Ackman is a real piece of work!

 

Herbalife exceeds earnings for 1st qtr!!!!!! Shorts are done. Their Lies Continue. The names may change, but in the end it is still the same……………..ACKMAN IS TOAST***More Fake News by Ackman shills attacking Herbalife. ****quoththeraven now using a brand new pen name for “FAKE NEWS” stories against Herbalife on blogs. Herbalife is a direct sales person to person business. Clown Ackman circus film ‘Betting On Zero’ batting a big fat zero. Seeking Alpha spreading more FAKE NEWS-STORIES today. HLF short interest is a positive sign

Well now it is offical. Herbalife released first quarter earnings and once again proved the BEARS are wrong. HLF is ramping up in AH. Shorts are covering and look for a lot more of that on Friday.  For those Ackman shills, BEARS or whatever who continued to insult me because of my BULLISH and ACCURATE statements versus your BULLSH’T and FAKE NEWS about Herbalife, too bad.  Look who called it right……again. 

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/shares-of-herbalife-rally-on-upbeat-2017-outlook-2017-05-04?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

May 4, 2017 -First, some news about Herbalife earnings coming up on Thursday. Predictions as to what is happening in China and other parts of the world. A lot of doom and gloom. But don’t they always do this just before Herbalife earnings? And aren’t they always wrong? (SAY YES!) But what if Herbalife does miss   tomorrow? So what? Look what Herbalife has weathered over the last 4 3/4 years. Any other company would have folded a long time ago.

Michael O. Johson takes a victory lap and calls FAKE NEWS

Meanwhile Herbalife CEO generating great PR for Herbalife at the Milken Institute talking health, taking a victory lap and exposing all of the FAKE NEWS out there regarding Herbalife.  These are the things Herbalife supporters, HLF longs have been waiting for.  All of the attacks on Herbalife have proven to be totally impotent.  Conversely, the positive PR from Herbalife has been working to create good will and overshadows the “noise” from the few remaining HLF bears out there.

And as I have mentioned time after time, Herbalife faced a much more serious challenge in 1985, sales dropped from $512 million to only $10 million BUT then rebounded. Herbalife is very resilient.

I normally don’t invest for long term, with HLF, right now, I am long and will stay long for a very long time to come. Huge growth   going forward. Right now I am adding to my position with near term calls, buying shares, selling puts. PLUS buying CALL LEAPS and selling LEAP Puts. The future is very bright for Herbalife.

Herbalife recalls protein bars

Before the Ackmanaholics and other undesirable liars with their FAKE STORIES ON SEEKING ALPHA blow this out of proportion,  Herbalife did a recall on their protein bars. Is this unusual? How many times have companies recalled products? Have many times have automobile companies done recalls. It is a part of doing business.  Nothing to lose sleep over. HLF is selling off slightly today. Not a huge selloff.  I look at that as another buying opportunity.

More FAKE NEWS stories coming out as we predicted, two today alone just on Seeking Alpha. By now, everyone should know that Seeking Alpha is beyond FAKE NEWS.  Many of us have been calling it a cheap tabloid for years.  And it is.

Well the Ackmanaholics finally gave up on falsely accusing Herbalife of having lead in their 1 shake mix. So they figured, heck that didn’t work, and now the newest lie is that Herbalife may not be able to list their products as healthy anymore! Really?? C’mon.

Keep in mind this is the same author who listed diet soda as a “health food” some time ago.  Seriously! Since when is any kind of soda a “health food” Only in the minds of the mindless Ackmanaholics.

As we who are better informed know, this kind of rubbish only comes up just before Herbalife is ready to report earnings. Coincidence? Hardly. No doubt the author of that fake news story on Seeking Alpha is on Ackman’s payroll and no doubt, may and probably does have a short play interest, even if is a few put contracts in play.

If you follow me, you will remember how bombastic this guy got after last earnings. With nonstop bullsh’t claiming Herbalife would be in for a big miss (they didn’t) this guy then went on to totally mispresent what was said on the earnings call. I wasted no time to correct him which only made him more furious. Then he said he was going to report me. WOW! I’m scared. Here we are months later, what he said was totally inaccurate.  What I said was spot on as usual.  Guess who won that round? Not him, that is for sure.

Expect to see the same thing this week. When Herbalife reports and their earnings are much better than what the Ackmanaholics are predicting and none of the other nonsense happens, look for them to try to spin the truth in AH trading. Never fear, for I will be here to set the record straight.

FACTS:

*FTC investigation over!

* Herbalife WinBack Program is in high gear and working

* FMR Herbalife reps are coming back in droves (this is driving Ackman crazy)

* Herbalife does have real customers

* Ackman and his shills do not have any real facts.  

Now that the hype and hoopla over ‘Betting On Zero’ is past  That film bombed terribly,  Ackman his his merry group of Ackmanaholics are trying desperately to find something to use on Herbalife. These guys need to check the definition of insanity,

“Insanity is to keep on doing the same thing that is not working and expect a different result.”

Ackman and the Ackmanaholic cultists have been at this for about 4 /12 years now. Has it worked? Nope!

If you keep on doing what you have always done, you’ll keep on getting what you have always got.

Herbalife has proven to be invulnerable to the attacks by Ackman. Meanwhile, Ackman has lost an estimated $700 million on this reckless HLF short bet. over $100,000,000 more on lobbying. His puts have expired worthless. His 2 AGs friends have abandoned him.  Betting on Zero was a bigger bomb than Ackman’s Herbalife “Death Blow” (hahahaha) in 2014. He has been divorced and in a 9 figure divorce settlement. His investors are redeeming shares of Pershing Sq on a daily basis.  He lost over $4 billion on a ridiculous VRX long play just 2 months ago.

This all spells trouble for the soon to be ex-billionaire.

While Ackman still maintains a negative and biased attitutide regarding Herbalife in particular and network marketing in general, other billionaires, intelligent and successful business people feel differently.  So who do we believe, a authentic billionaire like Bill Gates who also is very benevolent or a lying FRAUD like Ackman? I think the answer is obvious.

The following is worth a reread or a read if you missed it before.  This is the real Billy Ackman…..

* Ackman is toast – It’s all over for Billy boy

*More FAKE STORIES from Ackman shills

*Ackman shills now using new pen names

*The Real Bill Ackman website getting more hits than ever.

April 2- 2017 -This article came out  several months ago, however, it is worth a revisit. Tells a lot about Ackman, his behavior and his losses.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/is-bill-ackman-toast

Note the part in this article where it states that it is doubtful if anyone other than Ackman makes any money from Pershing Sq.  Investors get spanked. I’ve been warning about this for years.  Now Pershing Sq investors are finally waking up and redeeming in droves. Can you say GOTHAM PARTNERS II??

We knew it wouldn’t be long, especially with ‘Betting On Zero’  film bombing so badly and Ackman being squeezed to death by Icahn. More fake stories on seeking alpha and on other blogs came out and  once again peddling doom and gloom for Herbalife and bragging on what a great guy Ackman is and how Betting on Zero is going to be Ackman’s new “Herbalife Deathblow” Yeah just like the deathblow he promised in 2014 (hahahahaha). Even though the pen name is different, three guesses who wrote this trash.

‘Betting on Zero’ bombed badly just as I and so many others predicted.  It may be available on Red Box soon for $1, that is if Red Box lowers it’s standards and carries it.  Even then, I doubt if it will be available for long before it is replaced with a more marketable film

Interesting that the new FAKE stories no longer use the pen names quoththeraven or matt stewart or the other commonly used names from up to about a year ago. Nonetheless, same crap, no   doubt same writer, just different names.

BTW, I wonder if the matt stewart guy is still waiting for Mr. Stiritz to return his call? Like Stiritz has nothing better to do than talk to low paid Ackman shills who have zero credibilty and influence. .

Despite the attempted distraction by Ackman and his low paid shills, HLF stock has continued to climb and more and more good news comes out about Herbalife.  So Ackman’s b.s. is being smothered with facts and reality.  Icahn is squeezing the life out of Ackman so it is normal for Ackman and his cult like follower (s)  to come out with their nauseating rhetoric.

And as is so typical for Ackman and his naive followers, they underestimate the intelligence of the American people. They assume that only Wall Street knows about the Ackman scam that started over four years ago. The FTC investigation of Herbalife and that they never heard the results. They assume that the general population is not aware that any of this is going on and that ‘Betting on Zero’ would educate them. Ah yes, and that is why there are such long lines at the 3 or 4 theatres that ‘Betting on Zero’ is being shown. What? No long lines? Like I said, this film is about as interesting as watching paint dry and is about as new to people as the Titanic going down or WW1.

If anything, people are sick or Ackman and his lies. They have had enough. And enough is enough!

I talk with real investors everyday and most are tired of the Ackman bullsh’t. They, like all intelligent investors realized that it was all over for Ackman with the FTC showdown last June.  Shorts are covering and more serious investors are coming in and buying in anticipation of the inevitable “Short Squeeze” when Ackman finally bails as he did with VRX a few weeks ago.  No doubt it will occur after hours and all of those ignorant fools who believe in Billy bob the clown will be scratching their heads in disbelief as their brokers call them with those two most hated words that no investor wants to hear:

MARGIN CALL

The Real Bill Ackman website has been updated with more truth about Ackman

Herbalife is continuing to counter everything Ackman says and does on it’s The Real Bill Ackman website. Even includes a review on ‘Betting on Zero’ I can’t believe guy wasted time and money to go see it. His review is interesting and not surprising.

A honest review of ‘Betting On Zero’ from someone who is NOT a paid Ackman shill

http://www.redstate.com/diary/dukefergus/2017/03/30/bill-ackman-tilting-windmills/

Meanwhile, in other news, VRX coninues to hit fresh new lows .  No doubt the “Ackman curse” is still haunting this company OR it is as so many of we real investors saw a long time ago, a dog. Why didn’t Ackman see that and why did he hang on untill he took a estimated $4 billion + loss? That’s easy.  He is not a real investor. He is a gambler. Takes inordinate risks and like most gamblers, loses more than he wins.

It doesn’t take a Harvard degree to realize that VRX was a dog, Valeant was in deep trouble and heading down. I still maintain a short position with VRX. The factt hat Ackman exited did not influence me. I but or short stocks based on valuations, not emotions. i.e. like quoththeraven screaming to everyone a few years ago to short AAPL only because Icahn was long. WOW! What a  genius. And if he followed his own advice, he is either bankrupt or homeless.

Also, it  didn’t take a  Harvard degree to figure out that MBIA was going to collapse. Even a 6th grader coud have figured that out. Ackman was lucky on this one. But it appears as though lightning may have hit only once for this clown

Herbalife going up, VRX going down. Ackman has already lost an estmated $4 billion on VRX when he bailed out. That is not a paper loss, it’s a real loss. Then add in the estimated $700 million he has already lost on this senseless, reckless short bet with HLF PLUS other charges of an estimated $100 million lobbying against Herbalife and paying off certain people to help him, he is in bad shape. And that doesn’t count the $500 million loss on JCP. The 9 figure divorce settlement from Mrs. Ackman.  It looks very bleak for Ackman and getting worse all the time.

Something to ponder,

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BE THE LAST HLF SHORT TO COVER WHEN ACKMAN IS FORCED TO BAIL OUT???????

Think about it!

L@@K WHO SUPPORTS NETWORK MARKETING. And you want to believe Ackman?

Bill Ackman “The Clown” brought his circus back to town a few weeks ago with his ‘Betting on Zero film-It bombed badly and is doing poorly as we predicted.

*Seeking Alpha more FAKE NEWS today.

* Herbalife is a direct sales “Person to person” business

*Short interest is a sign of the coming MOASS

* THE TRUMP FACTOR

As predicted, Bill Ackman “The Clown”  re-releaseD  his huge bomb from 2016, ‘Betting on Zero’ which was released in theatres three weeks and has bombed  badly.  Betting on Zero is slated as a documentary but is really an informercial for Bozo Ackman. It bombed horribly in 2016. The premiere had a sparse crowd. Only one review by guess who? quoththemeathead, I mean raven.  Did horribly last year. No reason why it should do any better now. And it’s not.

This film should be based on the coming collapse of Pershing Square and Valeant. Then it would be more accurate.

bettingonzero.com

Bozo-Ackman the Clown is bringing his circus back to town with the re-release of ‘Betting on Zero’

Meanwhile Seeking Alpha is starting to  beef up their anti-Herbalife bashing again as I warned several months ago.  Look for that to increase. My recommendation is to not read them, don’t open them and never comment on them. There is nothing valuable there to read anyway. Some of you thought that the neutral or positive articles on the Herbalife SA thread was a positive sign. As I said 2 months ago, this was just the calm before the storm. Remember the story of the Trojan Horse? Beware of Greeks bearing gifts. In this case, beware of Ackman’s low paid shills acting like they have turned positive  or accurate on Herbalife. Have I ever been wrong? NO. Has Ackman or his low paid shills ever been right? Nope.

And today March 20, 2017. A brand new “FAKE NEWS STORY” came out on seeking alpha now allegedly using google as a source and claiming declining sales. In their last piece on Seeking Alpha, the anti-HLF people admitted that hits on Herbalife websites are up. Now they use a chart claiming that there is no interest. Either way, what they don’t understand is that Herbalife, like all direct sales network marketing companies is primarily a person to person business. Customers buy from their friends, people they know and trust. It is primarily a warm market business. Hence, google and website hits are ok, but NOT the primary or significant factor. This is something. the Ackmanaholics and Ackman himself don’t understand and I guess never will.

Seeking Alpha’s stories are more fake than Professional Wrestling 

There is a lot of talk about FAKE NEWS in politics. Nowhere is there more fake so called journalism than with Seeking Alpha, particularly on the Herbalife thread. Same drama as Pro Wrestling. Same fake crap. Just not as entertaining or professionally  done.

Ackman has been so wrong so many times. As I  tweeted over the weekend,  Borders, Target and more recently VRX. CMG will be his next big buy to go bust. And his HLF short play was poorly researched and reckless. It has cost his investors millions of dollars.  About a $700 million loss to date. Then add in a $500 million loss on JCP plus losses on Target and Borders and over a $4 Billion loss on VRX. OUCH!

And of course there is the re-released of ‘Betting on Zero’ which opened on Friday in about four cities to very sparse audiences. Easy to see why Ackman and the Ackmanaholics are so upset. Nothing they have done or are doing has worked. AND…I and so many others predicted this way back in December 2012 when Ackman first started this circus.

Ackman and his supporters greed overrode logic, rationale and intelligence.  Ackman has made this same mistake with Gotham Partners, the company that collapsed under Ackman’s direction, Target, Borders, JCP, VRX and now CMG and Herbalife (short)

To some the short interest which is still high is a concern. Hey guys, Icahn has been building. Institutions have been buying. Herbalife has a buyback in place. The FTC facade created by Ackman’s buddy Sen. Markey is over. Herbalife’s WINBACK program is going full force and surprise, surprise, much of that $200 million fine that Herbalife paid is coming back to Herbalife as those so called “victims” are rejoining Herbalife with the money they recieved.

Besides short interest has been dropping. Shorts have been covering and expect more of that. And think what will happen when Ackman covers! SHORT SQUEEZE. MOASS.  HLF to $100 ez.

And then there is the Trump Factor. Carl’s long time friend who is now President of the United States-Donald J. Trump. Ackman had some high profile people help him albeit borderline illegally. Carl has a good man who will do things ethically and morally and is much more powerful professionally and politically than all of Ackman’s bought and paid for buddies combined.

Carl Icahn and Donald Trump  have been friends for decades. Mutual respect.

Real friendships last forever.  Two great people.  President Trump and Carl Icahn. This can only help the network marketing industry as a whole and Herbalife in particular.

Now you know why the Ackman shills are back. Remember, I don’t call them “knuckleheads in bathrobes” we should all be calling them “ZOMBIES IN PAJAMAS” That is much more accurate. The #1 Zombie for Ackman makes his living peddling crap pennystocks. He makes a lot of predictions like GNC when it was at $10.50 2 months ago was heading to $14 easy.  GNC is currently trading at $7 and change. I hope you didn’t buy as advised by this jerk. Several years ago, he advised to short Netflex @ $150. NFLX went to $550, did a 2/1 stock split and ran up again. He also advised to short AAPL only because Carl Icahn was so bullish on it at that time. Result? AAPL ran to over $400.  If quoththeraven followed his own advice, he would be bankrupt and homeless. He also was bullish on CPQ Computer  back in the late 1990s. Result? Compaq stock dropped from $150 to $3 was about to be delisted with possible bankruptcy looming untill they merged with HP.  Seriously. He is no investor. I doubt if he is short and if not, why not? If he believes so strongly in the crap he writes, why not take a short position? Hmmm??

This guy also has a habit of creating fake aliases and using services to build his twitter following and create a fake image. Hence he has what appears to be a large following, but all shells or people with no interest or skill in investing. Or just aliases that he himself created.  Looks good. But also meaningless.

February 17-2017- 3 days late and after reporting Stiritz sold his shares of HLF (Inaccurate-He reduced didn’t sell all) Fake News Seeking Alpha finally reports that Carl Icahn bought more shares.  Great that SA finally reported this. Not so great that they waited 3 days and only after I and so many others brought this out. 

Seeking Alpha still FAKE NEWS and more Fake than Pro Wrestling. 

February 15, 2017-A WALK DOWN MEMORY LANE- I am republishing some of the articles I wrote earlier this year. Please note the dates these were written and how the events turned out virtually exactly how I and others predicted and totally opposite to what Ackman and his trolls predicted.  

* Carl Ichan boosts his stake in Herbalife stock AGAIN -St Valentines Day Massacre

*HLF stock continues in bullish pattern setting fresh, new high

* Stiritz cuts his shares in HLF….yawn

* Herbalife clinches new line of credit

* Seeking Alpha still Fake News. Reports Stiritz selling, not Icahn buying

I stated back in Novemeber and again in December, 2016, expect HLF stock and Herbalife as a company to explode in 2017 while Ackman and Pershing Sq will have a three-peat and their worst year ever.  In fact, 2017 could very be the year in which Pershing Sq becomes Gotham Partners II.

Appears that once again my predictions are coming true. Herbalife is having a banner year. Stock is up incredibly YTD setting new highs every day.  And more good news has come out

Car Icahn upped his shares in HLF. Remember Ackman claimed that he knew Carl was selling last summer? Once again, a Ackman lie. Icahn added to his position back then and has increased it thrice. Now on Valentines Day, Carl Announced that he bought even more. Could this be the St Valentines Day Massacre for Ackman??

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14003693/1/trump-buddy-carl-icahn-just-bought-more-herbalife-and-hertz.html?puc=yahoo&cm_ven=YAHOO&yptr=yahoo

Seeking Alpha couldn’t wait to tell their miniscule base of readers that Stiritz   sold some of his shares, but failed to report that Icahn increased his shares even though the Icahn announcement preceded the Stiritz announcement. Now you know why they are called “FAKE NEWS” Or at least, “FIXED NEWS”

Reminds me of that incredulous story quoththeraven wrote several years ago citing breaking news that Icahn & Soros were being investigated for possible stock manipulation. But quoththemoron conveniently left out that his idol Billy Ackman was also under investigation. So quoth, aka little billy ackman left this piece out. That was 3 years ago. Obviously nothing has changed at SA. Still bullsh’t. Still fake news. Still biased and inaccurate.

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/8ab19be7-5e2d-3d80-a0fb-3321e61f7d10/ss_herbalife-clinches-new-line.html

Stiritz selling is no big deal. Compared to what Icahn owns, it is small change and as all of us real investors know, investors buy and sell. That is what they do. Based on their own interests and goals.  At least Stiritz, who unlike Ackman is a a real investor, does know when to sell and not to get emotionally involved in a stock.  Stiritz  did not sell all of his shares, he merely reduced it. It’s called profit taking. Obviously Ackman followers have no clue what that means to actually show a profit.

People who follow Ackman’s advice walk around with empty pockets.

It is very well known that Carl Icahn is close friends with new POTUS TRUMP and in fact, the POTUS Has a place for Icahn in DC. It is also well known that Trump solidly supports network marketing and Free Enterprise. He encourages it.  All network marketing companies, the good ones, the real deals, not the illegal pyramids mind you, will benefit from this and Herbalife will especially benefit.

2017 has just started and is already turning out to be a very exciting year for Herbalife. Not so good for Ackman and the HLF shorts. Edith Ramierez, who was solidly opposed to all network marketing, even the good ones, has stepped down from her FTC chair position. Hillary who is friends with Sen Markey lost. She is out, Trump is in. The FTC determination last June was a major blow to Ackman. As I reported a few days ago, look at how the short interest has dropped since June. It is dropping almost as fast as Pershing Squares Asset value.

Expect Pershing Sq to collapse possibly in 2017. More Pershing Sq investors are redeeming. VRX and other holdings in Ackman’s portfolio show little life. And then there is Ackman’s divorce and 9 figure settlement with Mrs. Ackman.  Ackman’s only hope, which is more like hopeless is the Betting on Zero fake documentary, really a informercial.  I would bet on hulla hoops and pet rocks coming back more than I would of Ackman having any success with betting on zero. Actually, the documentary might be more accurate if it was about Pershing Sq and/or VRX stock going to zero. Not Herbalife.

Need I remind everyone of the incredulous “HERBALIFE DEATH BLOW” that PT Ackman promoted nearly three years ago? How successful was that? Ackman as usual made a complete   donkey out of himself, misquoting people, spreading misinformation while HLF stock SOARED to a 25% gain as Ackman spoke!. About a week later, after they slowly recovered from the shock, quoththeraven (and aliases) and who ever else   followed Ackman were claiming victory for Ackman!!!! LOL!!!!!!! Sound familiar?? HLF longs decimated Ackman yet the Ackmanaholics, the little billy ackman’s were claiming victory.

Incredible!

http://www.bettingonnzero.com

I have made predictions regarding Ackman and Pershing Sq since 2013. Haven’t been wrong even once. Meanwhile Ackman and his shills have not been right even once. 2017 is going to be an exciting year for all of us.

Meanwhile Herbalife is celebrating it’s birthday. 37 years old. And Herbalife will still be here 37 years from now.

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October 17, 2016- We all know that Carl Icahn added to his Herbalife long position  over a month ago completely refuting Ackman’s blatant lie that Icahn would be selling his shares. News also came out previously that Icahn WAS NOT shopping his HLF shares as Ackman and  his stool pigeons indicated. More lies from the Ackman camp.

However, it gets even worse for Ackman as Icahn has announced he wants to increase his stake in Herbalife even higher to 50%+:

https://www.thestreet.com/video/13728953/carl-icahn-looking-to-add-to-herbalife-stake.html?puc=yahoov&cm_ven=YAHOOV&yptr=yahoo

Can you say MOASS???

To add insult to injury, Icahn added even more shares putting even more pressure on Ackman and the silly HLF shorts. Icahn added 306,846 shares of the company  giving HLF  a market value of about $5.7 billion.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-02/icahn-buys-more-herbalife-shares-days-after-adding-2-3-million?cmpid=yhoo.headline&yptr=yahoo

It is no secret that I am no Bill Ackman fan, in fact quite the opposite. For the last  3  1 /2 years, I have been hammering home that Ackman was totally clueless on his HLF short play and contrary to what he tries to imply, he is not doing this to benefit anyone but himself.

For the real dope on Bill Ackman, go to

http://www.therealbillackman.com

Herbalife added two new videos on Bill Ackman this week, now totaling four as well describing his many bad investments. No doubt Icahn who is on the BOD with Herbalife knew about the Herbalife videos and is expecting a big run on HLF stock. Remember, Icahn, unlike Ackman is a real investor, not a gambler. Icahn takes calculated risks.  Ackman does not. Ackman takes uncalulated risks and hopes he can b.s. his way through. Hasn’t worked in nearly four years. What is the definition of insanity? Someone let Ackman know. Apparently he missed it.

How come everything Ackman touches turns into dog poop??

No matter what Ackman says or does and no matter how many times he is wrong, his braindead followers continue to applaud him and make him out the hero. They are like the dog sniffing another dogs poopoo and thinking it smells great.

It has been rumored that when a interested investor popped a question at a small group of Ackman followers, the Ackman followers were stumped. What was the question? “How many stocks are in the DOW 30?” They really didn’t know! Too busy pump and dumping pennystocks and writing ridiculous trash on SA for about 100 or less people must have really fried their brains. OR it demonstrates just how financially illterate the Ackman followers and HLF shorts really are.

As if Ackman  didn’t have enough trouble with his HLF short and VRX long positions, Ackman recently dove into buying CMG stock. Since buying CMG, the stock has been falling like the proverbial falling knife. Why does Ackman make so many consistently bad investments?  Perhaps it’s time for Ackman to find another career. Clearly he sucks at this one.

In December, 2012, Ackman’s Pershing Sq porfolio was bleeding red. Then came the infamous presentation (Ackman informercial) at the Sohn Conference where Ackman announced his $1 billion short POS on HLF and predicted that HLF stock was worthless and going to zero. And of course he claimed Herbalife was a ponzi, pyramid scheme.

This presentation was done just 2 days before options expiration for DECEMBER, 2012. How convenient! HLF stock tanked on the news dropping to as low as $24, a whopping 45% drop in one day and magically Ackman’s Pershing Sq Portfolio went from negative to positive. Walla!

Herbalife heard about the so called Ackman presentation (informercial) but Ackman denied them an opportunity to be there and offer a point/counterpont discussion. Hmmm. I wonder why Ackman didn’t want anyone from  Herbalife there. Probably because it was to close to options expiration, aside from his huge short POS, Ackman also loaded up on puts. Didn’t want to risk the truth coming out and anyone showing the facts and exposing Ackman’s lies.

Anyway, since then I have adamant on going after Ackman and his brain dead shills. People who act like junkies mindlessly supporting someone merely to get in on what they see as a get rich quick scam to profit by being short and buying puts on the wild assumption that Ackman might be right or at least move the market. How many shorts have been devastated following Ackman’s failed strategy?

Earlier this week, Ackman and his goons recklessly lied and said that Carl Icahn was selling most or all of his shares. This sent HLF stock reeling, dropping by as much as 7% untill the truth came out.

Still not done, Ackman came out on FRIDAY spewing more garbage and showing once again that he is a very desperate man and as I have always stated, A LYING FRAUD! He will do anything to try to turn this reckless HLF short POS around and try to prove that he is right when he is oh so wrong. Ackman played the HLF longs. But late Friday afternoon, “Uncle Carl” Icahn came back and played Ackman and the shorts.

Herbalife Ltd. backer Carl Icahn waited until after Friday’s market close to contradict fellow billionaire Bill Ackman, spending the day adding 2.3 million shares to his stake in the nutrition company as its stock tumbled.

In this latest tussle between the outspoken New York activist investors, the only clear outcome is that Icahn now owns even more of Herbalife: 21 percent. Ackman had said Friday that Icahn was looking to sell his stake, not add to it.

Meanwhile, Ackman’s hedge fund, Pershing Square Capital Management, is approaching the four-year anniversary of its $1 billion-bet that Herbalife is a pyramid scheme destined to collapse.

“Bill Ackman tried to play us this morning, and Carl Icahn played Bill Ackman this afternoon,” said Tim Ramey, an analyst at Pivotal Research Group and a longtime defender of Herbalife. “It’s so beautifully played on Icahn’s part.”

Icahn has been publicly assailing Ackman’s attempted evisceration of Herbalife — on stages, television, in documentaries and online — since a January 2013 CNBC phone-infight . That July, Icahn told a conference he decided to look into Herbalife because he wasn’t “a great fan” of Ackman.

A year later at the same Delivering Alpha event in New York, both billionaires took the stage together and said their feud was over. Days later, Ackman delivered an emotional , nearly four-hour anti-Herbalife presentation that backfired — lifting the shares 25 percent.

Ackman who has always had an inflated opinion of himself while underestimating others, pretended to be on friendly terms with Icahn. Only days later he went after Herbalife and Icahn again. But as is usually the case with Ackman, it backfired badly on Ackman.

Public Short

Ackman has waged a public short campaign against Herbalife since December 2012, saying it should be shut down. Along with setting up a $1 billion wager against the stock, he hired investigators to look into the company’s business practices and gave public presentations making his case, while prodding regulators to conduct their own review.

Icahn took the other side of the trade in early 2013, snapping up 18 percent of the company’s shares and defending its multilevel marketing model — in which products are sold both to consumers and new distributors. Herbalife later let Icahn name five board members as its largest investor.

Herbalife surged as much as 8.3 percent to $65.54 in late trading Friday, after Icahn posted a statement about his position in the company on his website. The shares dropped 2.3 percent to $60.50 in regular trading in New York, trimming an earlier loss of as much as 7.8 percent.

Shares Tumble

Ackman sent Herbalife shares tumbling when he said Icahn was looking to ditch his holdings. In an interview with CNBC, Ackman said investment bank Jefferies Group LLC approached him about buying a portion of Icahn’s Herbalife shares earlier this month.

He said he considered buying some of Icahn’s stock if it would help get Icahn completely out of his position. Ackman later confirmed to Bloomberg News that he didn’t buy any of Icahn’s stock and would have quickly sold the shares if he had.

“Completely contrary to what Bill Ackman stated on television today, I have never given Jefferies an order to sell any of our Herbalife shares,” Icahn said in his statement, in which he disclosed adding 2.3 million shares. “I continue to believe in Herbalife: It’s a great model that creates a great number of jobs for people.”

Ackman’s ‘Malady’

Icahn’s statement — which critics noted didn’t directly address whether Jefferies had quietly shopped the stake for buyer interest — went on to lambaste Ackman’s fixation on the company.

“Ackman may be a smart guy, but he has clearly succumbed to the same dangerous (and sometimes fatal) malady that afflicts many investors -– he’s developed a very bad case of ‘Herbalife obsession,”’ he said. “Obsessions concerning the value of stocks are the undoing of many investors because they often blind you to the facts, and it becomes impossible to see the forest for the trees.”

Ackman maintained his bet against Herbalife even after the maker of weight-loss shakes and supplements reached a $200 million settlement with the U.S. Federal Trade Commission last month. He said that the terms of the agreement — which Herbalife hailed as an acknowledgment that its business model was sound — would cripple the company and cause it to collapse.

Internal Thinking

Icahn’s response to the FTC agreement noted that he was allowed to raise his stake to as much as 35 percent — something Ackman had previously opined wouldn’t happen.

“It amazes me that a guy who hasn’t any knowledge of my internal investment thinking believes he is in a position to go on television to tell the world what I AM thinking! Amazing!” Icahn said in Friday’s statement.

“He has no right to do so, and even worse, I’m sure his unsubstantiated, obsessive comments, especially about Herbalife, have cost investors a great deal of money over the last few years.”

Multilevel Sales

Meanwhile, Herbalife, the object of this billionaire battle, has repeatedly denied Ackman’s accusations. The company declined to respond to Ackman’s comments on Friday, though Chairman and CEO Michael O. Johnson quickly welcomed Icahn’s announcement.

“We appreciate the support of all of our investors and are particularly grateful to Carl Icahn and the conviction he shares, and continues to show in our business, as demonstrated by today’s significant increase in his stake in the company.”

The dispute over Herbalife’s business centered on whether there was legitimate demand for its products by actual customers or whether its sales came mostly from contractors who bought the products in hopes of making money by reselling them.

The FTC’s findings backed up many of Ackman’s claims, saying that the business was driven more by member recruitment than by retail sales and that a large number of its distributors lost money. The agency is forcing changes that could make it more difficult for distributors to profit. Herbalife will now have to depend on retail sales, which are to be verified by receipts, instead of bulk purchases by members.

Still, Herbalife has remained upbeat about its prospects. Earlier this month, the company posted second-quarter results that topped analysts’ estimates and said it expects to overhaul its business practices globally in response to the settlement. While the terms of the deal affect only its U.S. operations, the company said it would likely roll out some aspects of the agreement worldwide.

“Carl is the confidence behind Herbalife,” Ackman told Bloomberg before Icahn’s statement. “Once he’s out, the confidence is gone and the company collapses.”

And Ackman is the  confidence behind Herbalife shorts. That confidence is rapidly fading. Once it is all gone, the HLF short thesis collapses and then we have the long waited MOASS.

So what happens when trading resumes Monday, after “the confidence behind Herbalife” — an 80-year-old worth $19 billion — has bet another $137 million on its future?

Ackman is holding on to his reckless HLF short POS by his fingernails. Can’t hold on for much longer.  Ackman has been liquidating other positions. It won’t be long before he is forced to cover on his senseless poorly researched HLF  short POS as well.

I’m sorry about those Herbalife and Ackman posts. Herbalife earnings. Icahn/Trump connection. Ackmananaholics: Knuckleheads in the news

If you follow me, you are know I tweet and retweet a great deal. My goal has always been to  connect with other great leaders, business people, christians, investors and health & fitness enthusiasts.

Unfortunately, when you tweet as much as I do and have as many follow you as I do, you sometimes pick up some undesirables. People with an agenda. People who are polar opposites to me and my beliefs. And sometimes these undesirables post crap that is added to my twitter account. Much of this offends people and offends me as well. To wit, I have been eliminating so many of these clowns. Sometimes I have new people follow me. Then afterwards I see what their game is so I delete them.

Add to that the fact that I am a huge fan and supporter of our new POTUS President Donald J. Trump and also for many years now been enthusiastically supporting Herbalife and exposing Bill Ackman.

This bothers a lot of people. I have a question. If you don’t agree with me and don’t like my tweets and articles, then why the heck are you following me?

If you don’t like my tweets, don’t follow me.  It’s as simple as that. In the meantime, I will continue to delete these clowns.

Last Thursday, I had one of these clowns tell me he reported me to twitter because of one of my tweets. What upset him? It was because I was telling the truth. It was regarding Herbalife’s earnings reported on Thursday. Some irresponsible people tweeted a inaccurate report of HLF’s earnings. I told the truth. I just laughed when I read his tweet and said, “Bring it on.” And added more tweets to supplement the first one.

Once again, if you don’t like my tweets and by the way, the truth, then don’t follow me.  It is not my fault if you were naive, stupid and ignorant enough about investing that you followed advice from a guy like Bill Ackman and are losing money by the bucketload. When you make a bad trade,as with shorting HLF, exit, . It is as simple as that.

http://www.therealbillackman.com

Michael O. Johnson, CEO of Herbalife accurately called these people “Knuckleheads in bathrobes.” So now we have knuckleheads on twitter. They make bad investment choices, don’t and can’t get their way so follow people like me and others who tell the truth. So I guess we can say we have Knuckleheads in the News.

To my loyal twitter friends and followers, I sincerely apologize for this disturbance. I am working on eliminating all of these knuckleheads. And while Michael O. Johnson calls them “Knuckleheads in Bathrobes” I  created a new name for them in January which is still very appropiate, “ZOMBIES IN PAJAMAS” Seems appropiate.

And never fear, I am here to stay. As I said over 4 years ago when this facade with Ackman started, I am here for the duration which will be untill Ackman folds. Which by the way could be very soon.

Just a quick recap on Ackman’s hopeless predictions:

2013- The courts of Belgium investigated Herbalife after allegations of Herbalife being a illegal pyrmaid scheme. Ackman predicted that Herbalife would collapse and Belgium would rule against Herbalife. Result? Belgium ruled in favor of Herbalife. Ackman so wrong as we predicted.

2014- Ackman’s hosts the “Herbalife DEATHBLOW” (HAHAHAHAHA) claiming that he has new information that will sink Herbalife. Result? Ackman just passed the same old stale information AS WE PREDICTED HE WOULD. I and other HLF supporters were called names and attacked. Ackmanaholics were drooling at their mouths. Naive, ignorant shorts increased their short positions. RESULT? Nothing new. HLF stock SOARED to it’s best ever one day gain over 25%. Ackman made a total fool out of himself, as usual. Shorts got hammered. The Ackmanaholics were in a state of shock and not even heard from in days!

2015-California courts review Herbalife for alleged pyramid charges. Ackman and his croonies were drooling at their mouths and once again predicted victory. Result? California courts ruled in favor of Herbalife and ruled out any wrong doing or pyramid charges.

2016- Ackman announces a documentary (actually a informercial allegedly funded by Ackman and produced by a old time friend of Ackman’s) called ‘Betting On Zero’  The premiere had a sparse audience. The documentary bombed badly. For those who know anything about it, it was as mentioned above a informercial, very one sided, biased towards Ackman with no point/counter point offered from anyone from Herbalife to tell the other side of the story, the facts. Ackman also had his friend actor Alec Baldwin show it in his home attempting to get media, celebrities and mainstream America excited about this. But it bombed again. It would have been better for Ackman to base this informercial on the direction that Pershing Sq and VRX stock are heading. Those I bet will hit 0.

2016-The FTC concludes their investigation on Herbalife. Result? Herbalife was exonerated. Paid a fine which by the way, the money to so called ‘victims’ is redirected back to Herbalife as part of their WINBACK program. Yeah, many of those so called ‘victims’ are using that money to come back to Herbalife and buy more products.

2017-February. Herbalife announces 4th qtr earnings for 2016. Beats estimates with numbers far better than expected  and way, way,   way better than what the Ackmanaholics were predicting.

In baseball, three strikes and you are out. If this were baseball, Ackman and his ignorant, naive foolish followers would have been out a long time ago.

Ackman the Judas

I have been warning people for a very long time not to believe Ackman, his words are not congruent with his actions as with this skit with Carl Icahn back in 2014. Ackman called Carl. Said he wanted to be friends. Said he was wrong and asked for forgiveness. Then on national TV had this fake embrace with Carl.  Just three days later, Ackman once again went on the attack against Herbalife and Carl Icahn.  Ackman can not be trusted. What he says, you cannot take to the bank unless you are the kind of person who writes rubber checks.

And then there is Matt Stewart who is still waiting for Stiritz to return his call. (LOL) Like Stiritz has nothing better to do than to return phone calls to clowns and nobodies like Matt Stewart.

Matt was very bullish on NU SKIN. Note that NU SKIN (NUS) has been dropping for quite some time. And unlike HLF, had horrible 4th qtr earnings recently and dropped like a rock. No doubt this is why Matty came back on twitter last week and continued to perpetuate his falsehoods. He is like quoththeraven and Ackman so bold in predictions and always so wrong. And so insanely jealous of Herbalife’s succe$$.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/02/17/why-nu-skin-enterprises-stock-dropped-today.aspx?source=yahoo-2-news&utm_campaign=article&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=yahoo-2-news

Matt also incorrectly predicted that the Michigan AG and all AGs across the USA would “pile on” Herbalife after Ackman’s two buddy AGs did. He never told anyone that those two AGs were Ackman’s buddies nor that they really never look at all the facts. And they disappeared very quickly.

Around the same time, 20-20 and Connie Chung declined to do a story on Herbalife that Ackman was pushing for.

And then there is the challenge that Matt sent out to Lenny Clements to debate him. Lenny accepted. But what happened to bold, champion of the keyboard but chickensh’t Matt? He was MIA for a very long time afterwards. I wasn’t surprised.

To my twitter friends and followers, once again my apologies for the disturbance and internet graffetti that shows up on my twitter account from time to time

Something else to think about. What if Carl Icahn gets his long term friend who he is now working with in the white house, President Trump to come out and speak on behalf of Herbalife?  We know that Trump is very pro free enterprise. Very pro business and very pro network marketing. And he is very good friends with Carl Icahn.  Imagine what this would do for Herbalife. 

I am working on deleting twitter followers aka Ackmanaholics. I am working on it. Deleted over 150 of these clowns last week.  In the meantime, just ignore them.