Pershing Sq investors still bailing from Bill Ackman. Why Bill Ackman’s Herbalife attack and “Herbalife Deathblow” (hahahaha) failed so badly.

Bill Ackman is deserving of the moniker “The Worst of Wall Street” no one has been more wrong more often than Billy Bob. Easy to see why so many Pershing Sq investors are still bailing from Ackmans mismanaged fund. 

http://www.therealbillackman.com

ackman the worst of wall street

 

Even though Billionaire Bill (or is that former billionaire Bill) Ackman liquidated his remaining put contracts on $HLF several months ago and today even refuses to discuss Herbalife (the pounding he took on that reckless bet was that bad) some of his shills are trying to keep the dream alive. And still cannot accept what I and so many others were saying for nearly 6 years; that Ackman would fail. His attack was unwarranted and without basis. But apparently they don’t know when to quit.

Is it just me or are the Ackmanaholics  (backed by Bill Ackman??) acting just like the Hillary supporters  who just can’t get over the fact that they were so wrong and lost massively? Have they set up support groups, use aromatherapy, hot cocoa and stand around crying all   day long like the Hillary-aholics did and some are still doing when Hillary was justy and easily defeated?

Ackmanaholics reaction after Bill Ackman lost his long battle with Herbalife??

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Those of us who know better predicted failure for Ackman way back in December, 2012 when it started. Why? Because Ackman’s thesis and argument against Herbalife was baseless and his commentary had been debunked. And only a complete fool shorts the stock of a company that beat earnings 22 quarters in a row and is growing massively as Herbalife was in 2012.

Ackmanaholics frantic that Bill Ackman was beaten and so easily and fairly.

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Enter the foolish egomaniac Bill Ackman and his followers.

All of Ackman’s accusations against Herbalife had been dealt with before and successfully debunked as indicated above. This was all old stuff combined with some independent Herbalife reps who were in violation of FTC and Herbalife rules and working without the knowledge of Herbalife.

Ackman’s ego showcased on CNBC as he announces he is going to take Herbalife down

“Herbalife may have had others come after them before.” Shouted Ackman. “But they have never had someone like “ME” come after them!”   Ackman proudly announced while jamming his thumb into his bony chest.

The ego was very evident. Ackman was beaming with overconfidence. So confident and so wrong.

That was December, 2012. But by October, 2017,  after several hundred million $$$$ of losses’s in lobbying costs and a $1 Billion + loss on a very reckless and poorly executed $HLF SHORT BET, Ackman covered the insane short bet, converted to a much smaller Put POS, claimed he was still short on $HLF ’tils the ends of the earth. Ackman then announced  in February, 2018 that he was done with Herbalife and didn’t even want to discuss Herbalife anymore. He showed a little class by calling Carl Icahn and congratulating him on his win and said he was out of Herbalife. But did he ever call Herbalife CEO or Michael O. Johnson. No! That would require a element of class far beyond what Ackman is capable of.

 

 

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Some of us smelled a rat and thought that this was yet just another tactic by the modern day version of PT Barnum, Billy boy Ackman hoping that by announcing he was out, that perhaps Carl Icahn would pull out of his long POS. And perhaps that was the intent. Or maybe, Ackman was  just going broke on his Herbalife short bet.  In either case, if so, as with everything else Ackman does or did, it failed. Icahn is still holding on and hasn’t sold a share. In fact he has added to his position.

One thing that hasn’t changed though is that Ackman is still losing money.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/carl-icahn-still-bullish-herbalife-205124642.html

While Ackman took a bath and lost well over $1 billion in his reckless $HLF short bet, Carl Icahn made over $1 billion. 

https://www.investopedia.com/news/icahn-says-hes-made-1-billion-herbalife-bet/?partner=YahooSA&yptr=yahoo

As predicted Ackman lost his $1 billion reckless $HLF short bet and threw in the towel. 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ackman-calls-quits-herbalife-pershing-233545853.html

While Ackman has been silent (PUBLICLY) on  Herbalife his assigns are back at work, trying to rewrite history. Scott Wapner has a series of stories reflecting on the Herbalife-Ackman saga and a book as well. Somehow, a lot of what Wapner says has no resemblance to fact or reality.

There have been many errors in recent reporting. One is that Belgium won a case and claimed that Herbalife was a pyramid scheme. Not true. The lower courts in Belgium did   rule against Herbalife, however, when it went to the higher courts, and they did a more thorough investigation,  it was overruled. Herbalife was declared to NOT be a pyramid scheme in Belgium or anywhere in the world for that matter.

There is also some talk about a “dossier” that Herbalife had on Ackman. To hear the Ackman shills tell it, sounds like a clandestine scheme right out of a James Bond novel.  Reality was that the information was taken on Ackman from his presentations (informercials) and speeches (more informercials) regarding Herbalife. What in the world is wrong with that?  And when someone takes out a $1 billion short bet against your company and spreads lie after lie after lie, goes on national tv attacking Herbalife, is it wrong to defend your company? I think not.

Almost too funny is that one of Ackman’s biggest shills, perhaps only one is now scratching his head trying to figure out where he went wrong! That’s easy —- he was never right. And never will be. He was so far into left field that he was totally out of the ballpark.

As recently as March, 2018, this Ackman shill better known as quoththeraven or QTR from QTRRESEARCH inaccurately suggested that Carl Icahn would be selling his HLF long position.  Not even close. As we all now know, Mr. Icahn added to his HLF POS and is now more bullish than ever.

More recently QTR announced a podcast with “Matt Stewart” to discuss where they went wrong with Herbalife. Many people feel that Matt Stewart and QTR are one and the same.  No one has been able to proves otherwise. IN any case, it is easy to see where they went wrong. They (he??) had no facts, only opinions and theories. No substance. And when you work that way, it doesn’t matter how many stories you pump out, in the end, the truth will prevail.

Recently, QTR as a disclaimer states he has no investment interest in Herbalife. But through the debacle with Ackman-Herbalife, he claimed to have a hefty put position and that Matt Stewart had a massive short position. Many of us claimed for along time that he had no real position at all, even though QTR claimed he rolled his puts even after they expired worthless. Everyone knows this is impossible, except for er, QTR.

Meanwhile, Pershing Sq. Investors are still redeeming shares. Even though Persh Sq fund has shown some small, tiny gains, trust in Ackman has been lost. Serious investors want out. And are getting out. Good for them. They can make much more money elsewhere and without paying the nose bleed fees that Ackman charges or be hussled by the used car salesmen Ackman has that he calls “financial advisors” who use manipulative and high pressure techniques and misquote real potential gains from investing with the grey haired Harvard graduate.

And my old “friend” Orion Research, LLC is back with more of his totally unresearched and biased anti-Herbalife bullsh’t is back and he was messaging me again trying to convince me that his crap has some merit.

It doesn’t take rocket science to figure out that Orion Research, LLC and QTRResearch are one and the same. Same baseless points. Same old arguments. Same trying to pass off nonsense as facts. I am a christian and  do not believe that the Good Lord created two like this.

He tries to claim Herbalife is guilty of breaking RICO laws. Saws there are violations with their nutrition clubs and goes back to pre 2012 and brings up Shawn Dahl, Anthony Powell and others who who were in violation of both FTC and Herbalife laws  and rules, and makes it look like what these guys were doing was part of Herbalife protocol. It wasn’t and never was.

Those violaters were quickly terminated from Herbalife as soon this scam was uncovered. How did the Ackmanaholics react? They posted all over the net:

“TOP HERBALIFE REPS LEAVING HERBALIFE!”

What does that headline suggest? That reps had enough and were quitting. They conveniently  ignored that those reps were terminated. It wasn’t voluntary.

And Orion Research, while claiming that Dahl, Powell etc were the main lead gen for Herbalife for over a decade, refuses to acknowledge that even after these shysters and their teams were removed,  and while Herbalife was under a full and relentless attack by Ackman and his  team of blind mice, Herbalife grew by over $1 billion in sales and added  1.9 million new reps. So much for Dahl, Powell et all and illegal business systems and front end loading be the reason for Herbalife’s incredible growth.

Michele makes a frivulous and unscuccessful comeback

Michele Ceveleriar. reposted one of her insane FAKE STORIES about Herbalife that she wrote several years ago. Hey Michelle,  your information was baseless and your story had no impact  years ago, and it is having the same results now —NO IMPACT.

Here is a response that Herbalife made regarding an article that appeared in the NY Times back in March, 2014. Now this had an impact. Check Herbalife’s sales for that year. Even after the Ackman attack. Even after Herbalife terminated many distributors who were considered “leaders” and “heavy hitters” but who were not following the rules.

Herbalife SOARED to a New All Time Record High in retail sales of $7.5 billion!! And this was even after the Ackman attack and top “leaders” were terminated along with their  downlines for NOT following Herbalife policy

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The best is yet to come………….

From the NY Times.

LOS ANGELES–(BUSINESS WIRE)– Herbalife(HLF) today commented on a March 10, 2014, New York Times report “After Big Bet, Hedge Fund Pulls the Levers of Power,” by Michael S. Schmidt, Eric Lipton and Alexandra Stevenson. The article details how Bill Ackman of Pershing Square has employed a sophisticated and unprecedented campaign to exert pressure on lawmakers and regulators to investigate and destroy Herbalife(HLF), all to protect the $1 billion bet he made against the company.

 

Herbalife responds…….

Herbalife (HLF) issued the following statement:

For the past 15 months, Bill Ackman has executed an unfounded, relentless and fraudulent public attack on Herbalife’s business model, blasting Herbalife(HLF) to any media outlet or hedge fund audience willing to listen. As The New York Times reports, Ackman has, out of desperation, shifted his focus from Wall Street to Washington and key states across the country. Ackman’s unprecedented campaign to destroy Herbalife(HLF) has now been exposed for what it is: a cynical, self-serving attempt to manipulate the market by buying his way into an investigation to cover his own reckless $1 billion dollar bet.

There has never been merit to his accusations. Now we know how he has been orchestrating the appearance of outrage and concern. There should be no question any longer about Ackman’s motives, his techniques and his goals.

therealbillackman.com

 

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Herbalife stock ($HLF) IS a long way from zero. But Pershing Sq may be going to zero just like Ackman’s previous failure, Gotham Partners. ackman the worst of wall street

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Why Bill Ackman’s ‘Herbalife is a pyramid scheme and is going to zero” Scam failed so badly and why Pershing Sq. investors are still redeeming shares

May 23, 2018

Even though Billionaire Bill (or is that former billionaire Bill) Ackman liquidated his remaining put contracts on $HLF several months ago and today even refuses to discuss Herbalife (the pounding he took on that reckless bet was that bad) some of his shills are trying to keep the dream alive. And still cannot accept what I and so many others were saying for nearly 6 years; that Ackman would fail. His attack was unwarranted and without basis. But apparently they don’t know when to quit.

Is it just me or are the Ackmanaholics  (backed by Bill Ackman??) acting just like the Hillary supporters  who just can’t get over the fact that they were so wrong and lost massively? Have they set up support groups, use aromatherapy, hot cocoa and stand around crying all   day long like the Hillary-aholics did and some are still doing when Hillary was justy and easily defeated?

Ackmanaholics reaction after Bill Ackman lost his long battle with Herbalife??

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Those of us who know better predicted failure for Ackman way back in December, 2012 when it started. Why? Because Ackman’s thesis and argument against Herbalife was baseless and his commentary had been debunked. And only a complete fool shorts the stock of a company that beat earnings 22 quarters in a row and is growing massively as Herbalife was in 2012.

Ackmanaholics frantic that Bill Ackman was beaten and so easily and fairly.

stock-photo-anxious-female-feels-pressure-of-time-running-late-nervous-and-afflicted-540088363

Enter the foolish egomaniac Bill Ackman and his followers.

All of Ackman’s accusations against Herbalife had been dealt with before and successfully debunked as indicated above. This was all old stuff combined with some independent Herbalife reps who were in violation of FTC and Herbalife rules and working without the knowledge of Herbalife.

Ackman’s ego showcased on CNBC as he announces he is going to take Herbalife down

“Herbalife may have had others come after them before.” Shouted Ackman. “But they have never had someone like “ME” come after them!”   Ackman proudly announced while jamming his thumb into his bony chest.

The ego was very evident. Ackman was beaming with overconfidence. So confident and so wrong.

That was December, 2012. But by October, 2017,  after several hundred million $$$$ of losses’s in lobbying costs and a $1 Billion + loss on a very reckless and poorly executed $HLF SHORT BET, Ackman covered the insane short bet, converted to a much smaller Put POS, claimed he was still short on $HLF ’tils the ends of the earth. Ackman then announced  in February, 2018 that he was done with Herbalife and didn’t even want to discuss Herbalife anymore. He showed a little class by calling Carl Icahn and congratulating him on his win and said he was out of Herbalife. But did he ever call Herbalife CEO or Michael O. Johnson. No! That would require a element of class far beyond what Ackman is capable of.

Some of us smelled a rat and thought that this was yet just another tactic by the modern day version of PT Barnum, Billy boy Ackman hoping that by announcing he was out, that perhaps Carl Icahn would pull out of his long POS. And perhaps that was the intent. Or maybe, Ackman was  just going broke on his Herbalife short bet.  In either case, if so, as with everything else Ackman does or did, it failed. Icahn is still holding on and hasn’t sold a share. In fact he has added to his position.

One thing that hasn’t changed though is that Ackman is still losing money.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/carl-icahn-still-bullish-herbalife-205124642.html

While Ackman took a bath and lost well over $1 billion in his reckless $HLF short bet, Carl Icahn made over $1 billion. 

https://www.investopedia.com/news/icahn-says-hes-made-1-billion-herbalife-bet/?partner=YahooSA&yptr=yahoo

As predicted Ackman lost his $1 billion reckless $HLF short bet and threw in the towel. 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ackman-calls-quits-herbalife-pershing-233545853.html

While Ackman has been silent (PUBLICLY) on  Herbalife his assigns are back at work, trying to rewrite history. Scott Wapner has a series of stories reflecting on the Herbalife-Ackman saga and a book as well. Somehow, a lot of what Wapner says has no resemblance to fact or reality.

There have been many errors in recent reporting. One is that Belgium won a case and claimed that Herbalife was a pyramid scheme. Not true. The lower courts in Belgium did   rule against Herbalife, however, when it went to the higher courts, and they did a more thorough investigation,  it was overruled. Herbalife was declared to NOT be a pyramid scheme in Belgium or anywhere in the world for that matter.

There is also some talk about a “dossier” that Herbalife had on Ackman. To hear the Ackman shills tell it, sounds like a clandestine scheme right out of a James Bond novel.  Reality was that the information was taken on Ackman from his presentations (informercials) and speeches (more informercials) regarding Herbalife. What in the world is wrong with that?  And when someone takes out a $1 billion short bet against your company and spreads lie after lie after lie, goes on national tv attacking Herbalife, is it wrong to defend your company? I think not.

Almost too funny is that one of Ackman’s biggest shills, perhaps only one is now scratching his head trying to figure out where he went wrong! That’s easy —- he was never right. And never will be. He was so far into left field that he was totally out of the ballpark.

As recently as March, 2018, this Ackman shill better known as quoththeraven or QTR from QTRRESEARCH inaccurately suggested that Carl Icahn would be selling his HLF long position.  Not even close. As we all now know, Mr. Icahn added to his HLF POS and is now more bullish than ever.

More recently QTR announced a podcast with “Matt Stewart” to discuss where they went wrong with Herbalife. Many people feel that Matt Stewart and QTR are one and the same.  No one has been able to proves otherwise. IN any case, it is easy to see where they went wrong. They (he??) had no facts, only opinions and theories. No substance. And when you work that way, it doesn’t matter how many stories you pump out, in the end, the truth will prevail.

Recently, QTR as a disclaimer states he has no investment interest in Herbalife. But through the debacle with Ackman-Herbalife, he claimed to have a hefty put position and that Matt Stewart had a massive short position. Many of us claimed for along time that he had no real position at all, even though QTR claimed he rolled his puts even after they expired worthless. Everyone knows this is impossible, except for er, QTR.

Meanwhile, Pershing Sq. Investors are still redeeming shares. Even though Persh Sq fund has shown some small, tiny gains, trust in Ackman has been lost. Serious investors want out. And are getting out. Good for them. They can make much more money elsewhere and without paying the nose bleed fees that Ackman charges or be hussled by the used car salesmen Ackman has that he calls “financial advisors” who use manipulative and high pressure techniques and misquote real potential gains from investing with the grey haired Harvard graduate.

And my old “friend” Orion Research, LLC is back with more of his totally unresearched and biased anti-Herbalife bullsh’t is back and he was messaging me again trying to convince me that his crap has some merit.

It doesn’t take rocket science to figure out that Orion Research, LLC and QTRResearch are one and the same. Same baseless points. Same old arguments. Same trying to pass off nonsense as facts. I am a christian and  do not believe that the Good Lord created two like this.

He tries to claim Herbalife is guilty of breaking RICO laws. Saws there are violations with their nutrition clubs and goes back to pre 2012 and brings up Shawn Dahl, Anthony Powell and others who who were in violation of both FTC and Herbalife laws  and rules, and makes it look like what these guys were doing was part of Herbalife protocol. It wasn’t and never was.

Those violaters were quickly terminated from Herbalife as soon this scam was uncovered. How did the Ackmanaholics react? They posted all over the net:

“TOP HERBALIFE REPS LEAVING HERBALIFE!”

What does that headline suggest? That reps had enough and were quitting. They conveniently  ignored that those reps were terminated. It wasn’t voluntary.

And Orion Research, while claiming that Dahl, Powell etc were the main lead gen for Herbalife for over a decade, refuses to acknowledge that even after these shysters and their teams were removed,  and while Herbalife was under a full and relentless attack by Ackman and his  team of blind mice, Herbalife grew by over $1 billion in sales and added  1.9 million new reps. So much for Dahl, Powell et all and illegal business systems and front end loading be the reason for Herbalife’s incredible growth.

Michele makes a frivulous and unscuccessful comeback

Michele Ceveleriar. reposted one of her insane FAKE STORIES about Herbalife that she wrote several years ago. Hey Michelle,  your information was baseless and your story had no impact  years ago, and it is having the same results now —NO IMPACT.

Here is a response that Herbalife made regarding an article that appeared in the NY Times back in March, 2014. Now this had an impact. Check Herbalife’s sales for that year. Even after the Ackman attack. Even after Herbalife terminated many distributors who were considered “leaders” and “heavy hitters” but who were not following the rules.

Herbalife SOARED to a New All Time Record High in retail sales of $7.5 billion!! And this was even after the Ackman attack and top “leaders” were terminated along with their  downlines for NOT following Herbalife policy

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The best is yet to come………….

From the NY Times.

LOS ANGELES–(BUSINESS WIRE)– Herbalife(HLF) today commented on a March 10, 2014, New York Times report “After Big Bet, Hedge Fund Pulls the Levers of Power,” by Michael S. Schmidt, Eric Lipton and Alexandra Stevenson. The article details how Bill Ackman of Pershing Square has employed a sophisticated and unprecedented campaign to exert pressure on lawmakers and regulators to investigate and destroy Herbalife(HLF), all to protect the $1 billion bet he made against the company.

 

Herbalife responds…….

Herbalife (HLF) issued the following statement:

For the past 15 months, Bill Ackman has executed an unfounded, relentless and fraudulent public attack on Herbalife’s business model, blasting Herbalife(HLF) to any media outlet or hedge fund audience willing to listen. As The New York Times reports, Ackman has, out of desperation, shifted his focus from Wall Street to Washington and key states across the country. Ackman’s unprecedented campaign to destroy Herbalife(HLF) has now been exposed for what it is: a cynical, self-serving attempt to manipulate the market by buying his way into an investigation to cover his own reckless $1 billion dollar bet.

There has never been merit to his accusations. Now we know how he has been orchestrating the appearance of outrage and concern. There should be no question any longer about Ackman’s motives, his techniques and his goals.

therealbillackman.com

 

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Herbalife stock ($HLF) IS a long way from zero. But Pershing Sq may be going to zero just like Ackman’s previous failure, Gotham Partners. 

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THE CBD Rich Oil PRODUCT WAS JUST LAUNCHED IN May 19, 2018. ALREADY $2 MILLION IN SALES!!! EXPLODING MARKET.

Folks, Hemp oil saved my life (In many ways) Pain, addiction ect…I wont bore you… Check out my website. Yours will look the same except with your name on it:

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF HEMP OIL BEFORE, REMEMBER THE JUICE COMPANIES AND PRODUCTS FROM THE LATE 1990S EARLY 2000S????? THEY EXPLODED and users of those products noted remarkable wellness and health changes.

First there was Noni Juice which created the market. The there was Xango which exploded and grew even faster than Noni. Then there was Goiji juice and on and on and on. The more that came out, the more it softened the market and the more hard working distributors made. It will be the same with CBD.

LOOK AT THIS AGAIN:

FORBES said in 2016: “Hemp CBD Sales Projected To Hit $1 Billion In 3 Years.” It passed $3 billion by 2018.

Did you get that? Sales were triple what was expected and did that not in 3 years, but 2! AWESOME!!!!

AND ONCE AGAIN…………. This is brand New. You can be one of the first in your state. New product backed by a 29 yr old company.

Click here to see My Website. A Sample of what Your Website will look like. http://superfitness.firstfitness.com/index.php?pg=cbd

Click here and START WORKING Today! http://superfitness.firstfitness.com/index.php?pg=cbd

TALK TO A REAL PERSON! Call me (407)761-3055

Get Your Position NOW and get some CBD Oil for yourself and Grab Hold! http://superfitness.firstfitness.com/index.php?pg=cbd

Folks, Hemp oil saved my life (In many ways) Pain, addiction ect… In October 2010, I was involved in a 5 car crash on a four lane highway. All of the    disc’s in my upper and lower back were either crushed or bulging I tore the knee pad in my right knee. Holistic treatments helped, but I never totally recovered.  I’ve been lifting weights for over 50 years. Competed in over 100 powerlifting competitions. 580 lb squats, 465 bench presses, 675 lb deadlifts, 325 lb power cleans, 1500 lb leg presses, 450 lb front squats, 250 lb seated presses behind the neck and 300 lb weighted dips took their toll on me. I am feeling the effect of all that now.  Or I should say was. Enter CBD-RICH OIL Also, at age 67 I still like to work out with weights. The next day, I feel like I was run over by a truck. Not any more. I won’t bore you with more details…

Many people I know personally have reported remarkable results with CBD-RICH OIL, not in weeks, but in days.

 

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Just market your own beautiful/ FREE website(we provide instantly when you join me at the link above) online and you will have financial security in 90 days! http://superfitness.firstfitness.com/index.php?pg=cbd

For more Info:

TALK TO A LIVE PERSON: 407-761-3055

Website: http://superfitness.firstfitness.com/index.php?pg=opportunity

*As with all network marketing companies, incomes are not guaranteed and based on individual effort. Network marketing is totally legal and growing. More than 55,000 people per week are joining a MLM every week.  Marry that with a product like CBD-RICH OIL and that spells OPPORTUNITY for those willing to roll up their sleeves and go to work.

FOR MORE INFO: call/text: 407-761-3055 – Associate Anthony

“until you become completely obsessed with your mission, no one will take you seriously. Until the world understands that you’re not going away—that you are 100 percent committed and have complete and utter conviction and will persist in pursuing your project—you will not get the attention you need and the support you want.”

Grant Cardone, The 10X Rule: The Only Difference Between Success and Failure

 

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“until you become completely obsessed with your mission, no one will take you seriously. Until the world understands that you’re not going away—that you are 100 percent committed and have complete and utter conviction and will persist in pursuing your project—you will not get the attention you need and the support you want.”

Grant Cardone, The 10X Rule: The Only Difference Between Success and Failure

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Get Your Position NOW and get some CBD Oil for yourself and Grab Hold!

SPILL OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GET IN EARLY AND YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BENEFIT FROM SPILLOVER AS THIS COMPANY TAKES OFF. I HAVE A DATABASE OF OVER 100,000 LEADS PLUS WILL BE ADVERTISING ON FACEBOOK, TWITTER, LINKED IN WITH AN ADDITIONAL 75,000 CONTACT BASE PLUS OTHER ADS AND PROMOTIONS.

THE CBD Rich Oil PRODUCT WAS JUST LAUNCHED IN May 19, 2018. ALREADY $2 MILLION IN SALES!!! EXPLODING MARKET.

Folks, Hemp oil saved my life (In many ways) Pain, addiction ect…I wont bore you… Check out my website. Yours will look the same except with your name on it:

YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF HEMP OIL BEFORE, REMEMBER THE JUICE COMPANIES AND PRODUCTS FROM THE LATE 1990S EARLY 2000S????? THEY EXPLODED and users of those products noted remarkable wellness and health changes.

First there was Noni Juice which created the market. The there was Xango which exploded and grew even faster than Noni. Then there was Goiji juice and on and on and on. The more that came out, the more it softened the market and the more hard working distributors made. It will be the same with CBD.

LOOK AT THIS AGAIN:

FORBES said in 2016: “Hemp CBD Sales Projected To Hit $1 Billion In 3 Years.” It passed $3 billion by 2018.

Did you get that? Sales were triple what was expected and did that not in 3 years, but 2! AWESOME!!!!

AND ONCE AGAIN…………. This is brand New. You can be one of the first in your state. New product backed by a 29 yr old company.

Click here to see My Website. A Sample of what Your Website will look like. http://superfitness.firstfitness.com/index.php?pg=cbd

Click here and START WORKING Today! http://superfitness.firstfitness.com/index.php?pg=cbd

TALK TO A REAL PERSON! Call me (407)761-3055

Get Your Position NOW and get some CBD Oil for yourself and Grab Hold! http://superfitness.firstfitness.com/index.php?pg=cbd

Folks, Hemp oil saved my life (In many ways) Pain, addiction ect… In October 2010, I was involved in a 5 car crash on a four lane highway. All of the    disc’s in my upper and lower back were either crushed or bulging I tore the knee pad in my right knee. Holistic treatments helped, but I never totally recovered.  I’ve been lifting weights for over 50 years. Competed in over 100 powerlifting competitions. 580 lb squats, 465 bench presses, 675 lb deadlifts, 325 lb power cleans, 1500 lb leg presses, 450 lb front squats, 250 lb seated presses behind the neck and 300 lb weighted dips took their toll on me. I am feeling the effect of all that now.  Or I should say was. Enter CBD-RICH OIL Also, at age 67 I still like to work out with weights. The next day, I feel like I was run over by a truck. Not any more. I won’t bore you with more details…

Many people I know personally have reported remarkable results with CBD-RICH OIL, not in weeks, but in days.

 

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Just market your own beautiful/ FREE website(we provide instantly when you join me at the link above) online and you will have financial security in 90 days! http://superfitness.firstfitness.com/index.php?pg=cbd

For more Info:

TALK TO A LIVE PERSON: 407-761-3055

Website: http://superfitness.firstfitness.com/index.php?pg=opportunity

*As with all network marketing companies, incomes are not guaranteed and based on individual effort. Network marketing is totally legal and growing. More than 55,000 people per week are joining a MLM every week.  Marry that with a product like CBD-RICH OIL and that spells OPPORTUNITY for those willing to roll up their sleeves and go to work.

FOR MORE INFO: call/text: 407-761-3055 – Associate Anthony

“until you become completely obsessed with your mission, no one will take you seriously. Until the world understands that you’re not going away—that you are 100 percent committed and have complete and utter conviction and will persist in pursuing your project—you will not get the attention you need and the support you want.”

Grant Cardone, The 10X Rule: The Only Difference Between Success and Failure

 

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This is why I advise to never listen to armchair self proclaimed investment “experts” RE: Now Is the Time to Short Herbalife Ltd. Stock March 6, 2018

I get attacked all the time for being “too bullish on $HLF” and perhaps not being realistic.  I’ve been hearing that for over 10 yrs now. Never was it more apparent that the “Time     to short Herbalife” guys were oh so wrong as they were about 2 months ago with this piece suggesting to short $HLF or do spreads.

At the same time this article came out, I followed up with my own article directly opposing this one stating, “Now is the time to BUY Herbalife stock”

As is usually the case, I was called all sort of names and was told that Carl Icahn would be pulling out. That $HLF was overbought etc., etc.  I stayed firm  Look at the chart below just in case you need to be reminded what really happened since March.

HLF Herbalife Ltd. daily Stock Chart

If you had followed the advice in this article below or anyone else who said to short $HLF-Herbalife stock, you would have lost your shirt.  This is why I always ask, “To whom are you listening to?”

If you read the article below, you have to admit, it is well written, the author is very articulate and seems to be very knowledeable  and makes a strong point. Even though he was 100% wrong!

It may be hindsight now, but, everyone who follows me knows I rebutted this guy and all other short pushers at the time and now we can see who was right.

 

 

Now Is the Time to Short Herbalife Ltd. Stock

Tim Biggam
InvestorPlace

Shares of Herbalife Ltd. (NYSE:HLF) are up over 40%, so far this year, finally forcing famed short seller Bill Ackman out of his bearish bet. Mr. Ackman’s total loss was rumored to have exceeded $1 billion. The most recent leg up was predicated on the announcement of a name change, stock split and Dutch auction — basically the kitchen sink approach to squeeze the HLF stock shorts into submission.

Now that the bears have gone into hibernation, I think it is a perfect time from a contrarian standpoint to revisit the short thesis on Herbalife stock.

While earnings and revenues appeared solid on the surface, on closer examination all may not be as rosy at it first appears. Volume points, a key metric for HLF stock, actually decreased 3.6% from a year ago. Reported net sales for the full year of 2017 also showed weakness, dropping 1.1% year-over-year.

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Earnings have stagnated over the last several years in HLF, while the stock has risen to a new all-time highs, meaning Herbalife stock is now trading at by far the richest price-to-earnings multiple over the past 10 years. Certainly, a multiple contraction (and therefore lower prices) would not be unwarranted.

Now Is the Time to Short Herbalife Ltd. Stock

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HLF is also getting extremely overbought on a technical perspective: its 14 day RSI recently breached the 80 level for only the fourth time in the past year. Each previous time Herbalife stock was this overbought signaled a significant short-term top in the stock.

The price action from yesterday was also telling, with HLF attempting to break out to fresh new highs only to fail and close lower on the day. This type of reversal pattern, especially after such a big-time rally, is usually a reliable indication that the buyers may finally be exhausted.

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Implied volatility in HLF options is at the 44th percentile, which is ideally suited for spread strategies. So to position for a pullback in Herbalife stock, a put diagonal spread makes intuitive sense.

Trade Idea: HLF Stock

Buy the HLF Apr $95 puts and sell the HLF Mar $92.50 for a $3.10 net debit. Maximum risk on the trade is $310-per-spread. Ideally, HLF closes near $92.50 at March expiration.

As of this writing, Tim Biggam did not hold a position in any of the aforementioned securities. Anyone interested in finding out more about option-based strategies or for a free trial of the Delta Desk Research Report can email Tim at timbiggam@gmail.com. 

Massive Gains for HLF heading into 2/1 Stock Split. Herbalife delivers final death blow to Ackman and naive $HLF Shorts.

April 29, 2018

Back on March 5th., I advised all Herbalife longs to stay put and if possible even increase their positions on $HLF. I indicated I was going full bore once again, buying calls, selling puts and increasing my HLF POS. At that time, HLF was trading @ $86.

I also predicted that $HLF would SOAR to over $100 easy.  Stock splits always generate excitement and pull in investors.

Meanwhile, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, QTR from QTRResearch (hahahaha)  stated the opposite. He said that now that Ackman had folded on his “long term short position” and was out, even closed his put position after covering his short position last fall, that Mr. Carl Icahn would be pulling out and said that $HLF would crash and would be trading in the low 60s, maybe even lower by the end of March.

Obviously we all know where $HLF stock went and where it is now. But as a reminder, here is the chart.

 

HLF Herbalife Ltd. daily Stock Chart

As usual  Chris Irons aka quoththeraven (poor Edgar Allen Poe must be rolling in his grave seeing this bozo misuse and abuse one of his creations) aka QTR from QTRResearch (hahahahaha)  wasn’t even close. And we all know that Mr. Carl Icahn never sold a share of $HLF.

 

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Carl Icahn is “The Master of the Universe” in the investment world and rolled to a $1 billion PLUS gain by being LONG Herbalife meanwhile Billy boy Ackman LOST his $1 billion reckless $HLF short bet plus hundreds of millions more on lobbying costs

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Herbalife’s 2/1 stock split  the stock split is effective May 7 with May 14 as the stock-split distribution date.

https://www.marketwatch.com/Story/herbalife-to-split-stock-2-for-1-change-company-name-2018-04-24?&siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

I love playing stock splits. Made a lot of money on them in the 1990s. What is really exciting about stock splits is that gains play out over several months. Right now we are seeing massive gains pre stock  split which will continue. However, even more investors will buy as it gets closer to the split date and more still after it splits.

Meanwhile more and more shorts will  be covering and going long. This play out for several months, all through summer.

Congrats to Herbalife for masterfully handling Ackman, his assigns and the HLF shorts. 

Kudos to the great management at Herbalife for the masterful way they handled, man handled Bill Ackman and brilliantly took the billionaire down after a long 5 1/2 yr fight.  It was an awesome  fight with good trumping over evil. Their website: http://www.therealbillackman.com  did an incredible job of educating the masses about Ackman, his background and what he is really all about.

This piece in particular was very informing about Ackman…….

http://therealbillackman.com/tactics-called-into-question/

Michael Johnson has an impeccable reputation. He is the Executive Chairman of Herbalife. Former CEO.  

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Thanks and congratulations to Mr. Carl Icahn for seeing the value in Herbalife as a growth company and $HLF as a growth stock. He is not called “The Master of The Universe” for nothing. Mr. Icahn is a accomplished investor. Ackman is a speculator. A gambler with a huge ego which should have been brought down to earth of late.

 

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Scott Wapner and his book on the Ackman-Icahn battle.

Scott Wapner from CNBC seems to be interested in earning some bucks off of this and has written a book about it. Although I have only seen a few excerps and have no intention of buying the book, it is obvious that Wapner is trying to rewrite history and telling many things  different from what actually happened.  If you are thinking about buying this  tome, CAVEAT EMPTOR if you are looking for truth and reality. On the other hand, if  you like fiction, buy it. Remember, CNBC and especially Wapner gave Ackman a lot of free publicity and were very much Pro Billy Ackman.

Orion Research. QTRResearch one and the same?????

And then there is the clown at Orion Research, LLC who messaged me again several times this past week  complaining about my posts and articles on twitter. He is insane and I am sure I and everybody else knows who he really is. When I called him out, he denied it, but when has he ever told the truth?

Is he really quoththeraven? Their verbage, and points are identical. The way they communicate is the same. I am a christian and for the life of me I cannot believe that the Good Lord would make the same mistake twice by creating two of these. Safe bet — OrionResearch/QTRRsearch one and the same.  And the use of the name “research” is laughable.

After messaging him back ,  “Orion Research, LLC” posted a crazy message on twitter trying to claim that Mr. Icahn was in violation of FTC rules because  Carl said, “Lots of people are out of work right now and could benefit  from Herbalife.”

Orion Research, LLC officially deserving of the “Clown of the Year” award. Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mr. Icahn said, “I think Herbalife is a great company.  I think Herbalife brings jobs to many people. The model brings jobs. You have people out of work who are given an opportunity to make money.” – Carl Icahn.

What on earth is wrong with that besides nothing?

Now if you believe the whackjob at Orion Research, LLC, a small “Mom & Pop” operation, he would have you believe that Mr. Icahn is breaking FTC rules.  Really? How? By offering someone an opportunity to earn money and if they are willing to work and have the skills, they can earn some money, perhaps a great deal of money as opposed to collecting a unemployment check or sitting around doing nothing. What on earth is wrong with that? Herbalife and all good, clean MLMs need to be applauded not attacked.

Nowhere did Mr. Icahn suggest that anyone should quit their jobs and get into Herbalife nor did he quote any guaranteed income or make any guarantees at all. What Mr. Icahn said was well within FTC guidelines, true and accurate.  Once again, Herbalife and all good, clean MLMs offer people opportunity. Including and maybe especially people who are out of work, unemployed or underemployed.  That MLM is a illegal pyramid nonsense went out with bell bottoms, the hula-hoop, vinyl records, 8 tracks, cassette tapes,  believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. And even this whackjob from  “Orion Research, LLC” knows that. Just more drama from a sore loser.

He sent his post to the SEC, FTC, Scott Wapner at CNBC and Carl Icahn trying to scare HLF investors. I sent my rebuttal REGARDING “Orion Research, LLC” and will be sending this one to the same PLUS the WSJ, IBD, CNBC, MAD MONEY, HERBALIFE and more.

Clearly “Orion Research, LLC” is a misnomer. It looks like they (he??) does very little real research.

Remember, this is the same nut who has been complaining about Herbalife and it’s business model for years. Incorrectly calling it a “pyramid scheme” and worse.  Said people would be crazy to get into this business. Said that nobody makes any money, he says. BUT when Herbalife came up with their “Gold Standard Money Back Guarantee” he complained because distributors had to give up their distributorship. Hello! He tells us all the time that the business is a waste. You would be foolish to get in and  then complains when Herbalife says you have to surrender your distributorship if you want a full refund and by the way, Herbalife will pay for and send a truck to your home to pick up the products. Do his comments make any sense?

I am sure that the SEC, the FTC,  and Carl Icahn all got or will be getting a good laugh when they read this nut Orion Research, LLC’s post.

Everyone knows that I am not a fan of Billy Ackman. Have to give him credit though. He finally figured out when to throw in the towel and showed come class in calling Mr. Icahn, conceding and also congratulating Mr. Icahn on his $1 billion win by going long $HLF in 2013.

Ackman is a Harvard graduate. He is a billionaire. His company Pershing Sq was worth over $20 billion in assets at one time, now less than half of that, about $9 billion or less.  He threw everything including the kitchen sink at Herbalife and lost. He used the FTC, the SEC, the FBI, the DOJ, AGs and a senator who he was friends with. Was on CNBC constantly. And what was the result? He lost!

 

Carl Icahn was always a better investor than Ackman.  Not even close.  The battle with Herbalife is now over. Mr. Icahn made over $1 billion. Ackman lost over $1 billion. 

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So if Ackman who by all rights is a heavyweight couldn’t beat Herbalife, what chance does a lightweight bozo like Orion Research, LLC/QTRReasearch (hahahahah) have? Two. Slim and none and slim left town last week.

Herbalifer’s rest easy. The horror story is over. Expect a easy road going forward.  Ackman has been a distraction for over 5 years. Both the stock and the company are undervalued and poised for massive growth. There will still  be mosquito’s like QTR, Orion Research, LLC , Christine, Michelle C,  etc. that shoot their mouths off and write all kinds of crap. Just sore losers who can’t accept that they was wrong.  Poor little snowflakes. Their precious ego was destroyed. And perhaps more upset that Ackman pulled out and that perhaps they have a couple of put contracts in play and wants to make some cheap $$$ on those.

Larry Thompson

 

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I created a lot of excitement with my post about Larry Thompson. No word if he is coming back home to Herbalife. I hope he does. If that happens, expect a major explosion in Herbalife here in the USA and North America like Herbalife has not seen since the 1980s and that will translate into huge earnings on $HLF stock which is also very good for we longs.

While Herbalife is still doing well in the USA and North America, it is not as strong as it used to be. Bring back LT-Larry Thompson and watch Herbalife SOAR like an eagle in this continent once again. I don’t know if Larry Thomspson wants to come back or if Herbalife is considering it. BUT…..Herbalife would be very foolish not to consider it and LT would be foolish to decline.

#Bill Ackman finally conceded to Herbalife in February announcing that he was officially pulling out completely from the insane, reckless, poorly thought out Herbalife attack and $HLF short play. Didn’t he say he was staying in ’till the end of days’?? 

 

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Poor Carl Icahn had to withstand a hug and a phony display of friendship from Billy Ackman. Icahn took off very quickly no doubt to take a hot, soapy shower and get rid of the slimy feeling he must have felt being touched by Billy boy. 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bill-ackman-surrenders-his-in-five-year-war-against-herbalife-1519854456?mod=yahoo_hs&yptr=yahoo

Right after Ackman conceded, his #1 fan and supporter Chris Irons aka quoththeraven from QTRResearch (LOL) and alleged aka Orion Research fired off another one of his senseless, unfounded FAKE NEWS stories on SEEKING ALPHA claiming that now was the time to short $HLF as Mr. Carl Icahn would be pulling out. Of course this was nonsense. We have been saying all along that Mr. Icahn came into $HLF because he saw Herbalife as a growth company with huge upside potential. And as usual, Mr. Icahn was right. Beating Ackman was just icing on the cake.

Even before Mr. Carl Icahn responded, I sent off an article here on word press indicating that it would be insane for Mr. Icahn to sell with Herbalife announcing they would be splitting their stock and other changes, with shorts covering and Herbalife announcing last earnings that they were back in “growth mode” only someone totally uneducated to the Stock Market would sell $HLF stock or suggest to.

A few hours after posting my article, this release came from Mr. Carl Icahn. It was no surprise to me:

https://www.investopedia.com/news/icahn-says-hes-made-1-billion-herbalife-bet/?partner=YahooSA&yptr=yahoo

So Chris Irons who has never been right once regarding the Icahn-Ackman battle or his remarks about Herbalife, was wrong once again.

So while Ackman lost an estimated $1 billion+ on this reckless ill fated bet, Carl Icahn made over $1 billion+. What was the difference? Icahn is an investor. Ackman is a gambler and was looking to get rich quick and add billions to his networth by shorting $HLF stock with no concern  for the over 8,000 Herbalife employees, 4.5 million distributors worldwide or the 20 million happy Herbalife customers around the world not to mention all of us very happy $HLF longs.  It’s called Greed and Ego. Ackman was looking to make a bundle on this, perhaps give a small amount to charity if he succeeded and his ego was so huge he thought that would dwarf the truth about Herbalife. Didn’t turn out that way. Never does.  Truth always prevails.  Ackman lost.

Although Chris Irons (quoththeraven) tried to keep the dream alive, even after his idol Billy Ackman pulled out, once again, Irons proved that he knows nothing about investing or how the stock market works. Irons as quoththeraven runs a small home based one man organization which he calls “QTR research” and allegedly “Orion research (LOL) and has some of his material spills over to other blogs. Mostly, only Seeking Alpha carries his nonsense.

QTR attacked Herbalife’s integrity and business model. Meanwhile using real name, Chris Irons, he cheats people out of their money with PUMPnDUMP pennystocks. What a guy!!

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Irons is known to run a Pump & Dump pennystock scheme and is allegedly now into promoting bitcoins. His predictions and advice on real investments, stocks never pan out, he is always wrong and never was this more evident than with Herbalife. Irons was allegedly a former disgruntled Herbalife distributor who just couldn’t measure up and cut it in the business. If true, this explains his  disdain for the company.  Nothing he ever said about Herbalife was ever even close to  being true. He also attacked Mr. Carl Icahn, showing disrespect to this legendary investor and a man his senior.  At least Ackman showed a little class in leaving and calling Mr. Icahn. Irons showed no class    which is not unusual. He never does.

Herbalife $HLF took off this week setting new highs every day.

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If you have followed me  over the last five+ years, you know I predicted Ackman would fall and was falling badly and fail he did.  As  we all know by now, Ackman has officially pulled out closing on his put position which I and many others predicted were going worthless if they weren’t already.  And he paid so much for time value on those puts. So much for Ackman being such a “financial genius” He’s not and never was.

Cheers to Herbalife. They pulled Ackman to destruction. 

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I made a couple of tweets last February and March about this congratulating $HLF longs and all Herbalife people. This comes as no surprise to me, I had been predicting it since Ackman came in with this reckless $HLF Short bet and insane accusations against Herbalife back in 2012.

I have made many predictions about Ackman and Herbalife. Although I was fought tooth and nail by quoththeraven (Chris Irons) aka little billy ackman. his 8,000 aliases and shorts, I stayed firm and was right at least 99.99999% of the time. While they were wrong 99.99999% of the time.

Chris Irons  (quoththeraven)was on Seeking Alpha on Wednesday making some more of his insane and inaccurate predictions, all without basis. Apparently, even after his idol Billy Boy Ackman has officially moved out and away from #Herbalife, littl billy ackman wants to keep the dream alive.

Chris Irons aka QTR now moved into podcasts

 

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I stopped reading his boring and senseless, lack of facts and truthless stories on seeking alpha a long time ago. And deleted hundreds of his fake aliases from my twitter account, apparently, QTR has now taken to doing podcasts. (LOL) I have never listened to any. Reading is garbage was bad enough. I may listen in one of these times just to hear if his voice and presentation is really as bad as I have been told. If it is anything like his writing, I am sure it is.

Chris Irons (QuoththeRaven) getting ready to write another one of his insane, mindless, brain numbing and inaccurate anti-Herbalife stories.

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He insinuates that Icahn is going to sell. On what basis would Ackman sell? Once again, Chris Irons is imitating his fallen hero #Bill Ackman and trying to speak for Icahn and put words in his mouth. As the late, great Zig Ziglar would say, “That is not sanitary.”

There is no indication that Icahn is selling and why would he? With Ackman out, shorts covering enmasse, a 2/1 stock split coming, any intelligent investor would  be INSANE to sell. Not to mention that Herbalife-$HLF is way undervalued based on the unethical, insane and recklessness Ackman has shown over the last 5 years. Look for Herbalife to really explode now and with that take $HLF to new highs.

 

Chris Irons (quoththeraven) reaction upon hearing that $HLF is going to do a 2/1 stock split.  How many times over the years did he say that would never, never, never happen. But is this nerd ever right? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

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Quoththeraven (Chris Irons) Crying over Ackman’s defeat………..

 

Herbalife is back in growth mode.

https://finance.yahoo.com/m/da20f9e5-45e2-3667-a5e9-1342e06418e2/herbalife%E2%80%99s-4q17-sales-beat.html

Last $HLF earnings showed that Herbalife is once again in a growth mode. So on top of the 2/1 split, we have a company with great growth.  Remember Icahn is a real investor. Ackman is a gambler which explains why he loses so often. Chris Irons pushes PUMPnDUMP penny stocks and now Bitcoins. He is no investor either. Remember in January, 2017, Chris Irons (quoththeraven) advised us all to load up on GNC stock saying it was a sure bet to run up to $14 easy by February 2017. Result? GNC dropped from $10.50 per share to $8 then went all the way down to $4 per share. And of course this genius told us to short NFLX @ $140. Result. NFLX ran up to $500, split and ran up again.

And lets not forget that last spring, Chris Irons was all fired up and actually the spokesperson for Ackman and the people behind “Betting On Zero” went on blogs and said this would sink Herbalife for sure as this would alert the general public about Herbalife.  The fact that Chris Irons was the only one touting ‘Betting on Zero’ told me and I am sure the whole world that this Ackman informercial mislabeled a documentary was doomed to fail. And it did fail bad. According to ‘little billy ackman’ —Chris Iron—quoth the raven thus far, only investors were aware of Ackman, the alleged and misguided idea that Herbalife was running a illegal pyramid scheme, their stock was going to zero and they would be shut down and of course he worked on the pretense that Ackman was right and telling the truth. He was dead wrong and there was no truth at all.

As we all now know, “Betting On Zero” bombed badly as we predicted. And the general public was very much aware of Bill Ackman’s Dog & Pony show, lies and fabrications.  Many who had no interest in Herbalife were as aghast at Ackman’s insane remarks as HLF longs and Herbalife people were. Everyone was tired of hearing about it and a fake  documentary wasn’t going to help, but only further hurt Ackman and his cause. We all knew that. That is, all of us except for Chris Irons aka quoththeraven. (Poor Edgar Allen Poe is probably rolling in his grave knowing that this nut is using his creation)

Ackman has turned his attention to United Technologies (UTX) as soon as I heard, I entered a short position. To be fair, UTX is a good company but we all know that everything Ackman touches turns to dog poop. In fact, UTX immediately started selling off after the announcement that Ackman was in.  So apparently, I am not the only one who feels this way.  Short interest is increasing. If you are long on this, I would at least buy puts.

It is easy to come in cheering after the fact. Here is an article I wrote on wordpress 3 months ago. Once again, I was spot on.

CONGRATULATIONS HERBALIFE LONGS —- WE WON THE FIGHT

Now here is the article from January…………..

I normally don’t lavish with joy when hard times come upon someone, but when that someone is Bill Ackman, it feels so good.

Over the last five PLUS years, I and so many other experienced investors who follow the markets and knew of the reputation of the infamous Bill Ackman predicted that he would fall and that he was oh so wrong about Herbalife not to mention so many other investments, including the ones he was bullish on. Does VRX comes to mind? For those who have been around for years, JCP also comes to mind. Billy lost over $500 million on that deal.

For the last four years, I was the first to predict that Pershing Sq was failing and that was against so many attacks by Ackman’s #1 and possibly only real fan Chris Irons aka quoththeraven aka ‘little billy ackman.

Here is the latest on what is going on in Billy Ackman’s life. That is ‘billionaire Billy’ not the imitation ‘little billy ackman aka quoththeraven real name Chris Irons.

Bill Ackman is cutting almost a fifth of his staff and looking to lower his public profile as he seeks to turn around Pershing Square (OTCPK:PSHZF) after three straight years of losses, sources told Reuters.

He’ll also spend more time investing and stop being the firm’s No. 1 marketer.

Previously one of Wall Street’s most vocal investors, Ackman recently suffered big losses on Valeant Pharmaceuticals (NYSE:VRX) and Herbalife (NYSE:HLF) and lost a proxy fight with Automatic Data Processing (NASDAQ:ADP).

Cutting staff. Downsizing.  Stop being the firms #1 marketer.  That is a start.

A few days ago, Ackman announced he was slashing fees for new investors. Again, this is something I was harping about for a very long time. The fees he charges are like loan shark fees and his investments don’t pan out.

As so many of us have stated previously, Ackman is a gambler not an investor. He has been EXTREMELY lucky in a  few plays in the past. He is not brilliant. Not even close to the caliber of Warren Buffet or Carl Icahn, in fact, my 12 yr old daughter does better with her proxy investments than Ackman does. Fancy that. Ackman gets beat by a 12 yr old!

And one final time. Ackman was never even close to being right about Herbalife. His thesis was based on old, outdated, debunked crap from the 1980s and after. Ackman was not doing this as  a public service, he was gambling. He really believed in his own hyped up image and that people would buy his words over truth. He made a $1 billion bet hoping to extrapulate that to $45 billion and perhaps make a small donation to a charity or perhaps a illegal charity ala the Clintons.

Many of us predicted that Ackman would fail. And he has. He even lost his marriage a year ago. Not to mention the billions he has lost. Over $4 billion on VRX alone. And another $1 billion+ on Herbalife.

Let this be a lesson to everyone. Just because someone has a Harvard degree and a 8 figure net worth (if he is still in the 8 figure net worth category these days??) does not mean he is right or telling the truth.

Pershing Sq had assets in excess of $20 billion when Ackman started his reckless attacks on Herbalife. Currently assets are under $9 billion and still falling.  Clearly, this was a very bad move by Ackman which we predicted back in 2012.

I almost feel sorry for the shorts  who were suckered in by Ackman. Almost. When greed overcomes logic, you get what you deserve.

 

In the battle of billionaires,  Ackman got his clock cleaned by the “Master of the Universe” Carl Icahn, as we predicted.  BTW, even when this started, Ackman was a much smaller billionaire than Icahn.  He was more like a fledgling billionaire. Not even close to the same class as Icahn. I only wonder if Ackman learned his lesson?

 

The real dope on Bill Ackman’s FRAUDULENT attack on Herbalife and why he lost his $1 billion bet

April 25, 2018

Is it just me or are the Ackmanaholics  (backed by Bill Ackman??) acting just like the Hillary supporters  who just can’t get over the fact that they were so wrong and lost massively? Have they set up support groups, use aromatherapy, hot cocoa and stand around crying all   day long like the Hillary-aholics did and some are still doing when Hillary was justy and easily defeated?

Ackmanaholics reaction after Bill Ackman lost his long battle with Herbalife??

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Those of us who know better predicted failure for Ackman way back in December, 2012 when it started. Why? Because Ackman’s thesis and argument against Herbalife was baseless. And only a complete fool shorts the stock of a company that beat earnings 22 quarters in a row and is growing massively.

Ackmanaholics frantic that Bill Ackman was beaten and so easily and fairly.

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Enter the foolish egomaniac Bill Ackman and his followers.

All of Ackman’s accusations against Herbalife had been dealt with before and successfully debunked.

Ackman’s ego showcased on CNBC as he announces he is going to take Herbalife down

“Herbalife may have had others come after them before.” Shouted Ackman. “But they have never had someone like “ME” come after them!”   Ackman proudly announced while jamming his thumb into his bony chest.

The ego was very evident. Ackman was beaming with overconfidence. So confident and so wrong.

That was December, 2012. But by October, 2017,  after several hundred million $$$$ of losses’s in lobbying costs and a $1 Billion + loss on a very reckless and poorly executed $HLF SHORT BET, Ackman covered the insane short bet, converted to a much smaller Put POS, claimed he was still short on $HLF ’tils the ends of the earth. Ackman then announced that he was done with Herbalife and didn’t even want to discuss Herbalife anymore. He showed a little class by calling Carl Icahn and congratulating him on his win and said he was out of Herbalife.

Some of us smelled a rat and thought that this was yet just another tactic by the modern day version of PT Barnum, Billy boy Ackman hoping that by announcing he was out, that perhaps Carl Icahn would pull out of his long POS. And perhaps that was the intent. If so, As with everything else Ackman does or did, it failed. Icahn is still holding on and hasn’t sold a share.

While Ackman has been silent (PUBLICLY) on  Herbalife his assigns are back at work, trying to rewrite history. Scott Wapner has a series of stories reflecting on the Herbalife-Ackman saga and a book as well. Somehow, a lot of what Wapner says has no resemblance to fact or reality.

And my old “friend” Orion Research, LLC is back with more of his totally unresearched and biased anti-Herbalife bullsh’t is back and he is messaging me again trying to convince me that his crap has some merit.

It doesn’t take rocket science to figure out that Orion Research, LLC and QTRResearch are one and the same. Same baseless points. Same old arguments. Same trying to pass off nonsense as facts. I am a christian and  do not believe that the Good Lord created two like this.

He tries to claim Herbalife is guilty of breaking RICO laws. Saws there are violations with their nutrition clubs and goes back to pre 2012 and brings up Shawn Dahl, Anthony Powell and others who who were in violation of both FTC and Herbalife laws  and rules, and makes it look like what these guys were doing was part of Herbalife protocol. It wasn’t and never was.

Those violaters were quickly terminated from Herbalife as soon this scam was uncovered. How did the Ackmanaholics react? They posted all over the net:

“TOP HERBALIFE REPS LEAVING HERBALIFE!”

What does that headline suggest? That reps had enough and were quitting. They conveniently  ignored that those reps were terminated. It wasn’t voluntary.

And Orion Research, while claiming that Dahl, Powell etc were the main lead gen for Herbalife for over a decade, refuses to acknowledge that even after these shysters and their teams were removed,  and while Herbalife was under a full and relentless attack by Ackman and his  team of blind mice, Herbalife grew by over $1 billion in sales and added  1.9 million new reps. So much for Dahl, Powell et all and illegal business systems and front end loading be the reason for Herbalife’s incredible growth.

Michele makes a frivulous and unscuccessful comeback

Michele Ceveleriar. reposted one of her insane FAKE STORIES about Herbalife that she wrote several years ago. Hey Michelle,  your information was baseless and your story had no impact  years ago, and it is having the same results now —NO IMPACT.

Here is a response that Herbalife made regarding an article that appeared in the NY Times back in March, 2014. Now this had an impact. Check Herbalife’s sales for that year. Even after the Ackman attack. Even after Herbalife terminated many distributors who were considered “leaders” and “heavy hitters” but who were not following the rules.

Herbalife SOARED to a New All Time Record High in retail sales of $7.5 billion!! And this was even after the Ackman attack and top “leaders” were terminated along with their  downlines for NOT following Herbalife policy

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The best is yet to come………….

From the NY Times.

LOS ANGELES–(BUSINESS WIRE)– Herbalife(HLF) today commented on a March 10, 2014, New York Times report “After Big Bet, Hedge Fund Pulls the Levers of Power,” by Michael S. Schmidt, Eric Lipton and Alexandra Stevenson. The article details how Bill Ackman of Pershing Square has employed a sophisticated and unprecedented campaign to exert pressure on lawmakers and regulators to investigate and destroy Herbalife(HLF), all to protect the $1 billion bet he made against the company.

 

Herbalife responds…….

Herbalife (HLF) issued the following statement:

For the past 15 months, Bill Ackman has executed an unfounded, relentless and fraudulent public attack on Herbalife’s business model, blasting Herbalife(HLF) to any media outlet or hedge fund audience willing to listen. As The New York Times reports, Ackman has, out of desperation, shifted his focus from Wall Street to Washington and key states across the country. Ackman’s unprecedented campaign to destroy Herbalife(HLF) has now been exposed for what it is: a cynical, self-serving attempt to manipulate the market by buying his way into an investigation to cover his own reckless $1 billion dollar bet.

There has never been merit to his accusations. Now we know how he has been orchestrating the appearance of outrage and concern. There should be no question any longer about Ackman’s motives, his techniques and his goals.

therealbillackman.com

 

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Herbalife stock ($HLF) IS a long way from zero. But Pershing Sq may be going to zero just like Ackman’s previous failure, Gotham Partners.