*****UPDATE: New Scam ARTISTS out of Orlando, FL. Bryan Brewer, Kathryn A. Brewer, Monument Life Insurance, Trax Financial, Monument Adjustment Bureau. SCAM ALERT!!!!

Bryan Brewer mug shot from most recent arrest… 

CONTEMPT OF COURT (MISDEMEANOR)

 

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Last week I wrote about the misdoings of a certain Bryan Brewer and his wife Kathryn A. Brewer operating out of Orlando, FL under the names Monument Life, Monument Adjustment Bureau, Trax Financial, LLC and more.  Details are below.

So far, employees who are owed over $11,000 from 2017 and new employees who are owed $7,000 from working at the Maitland Center  are still unpaid. New ads are appearing on Orlando craigslist for life insurance sales that look suspiciously like the same ads placed by Bryan & Kathleen Brewer but do not include phone numbers or a physical address. CAVEAT EMPTOR. If you work for this guy and his wife, you will not get paid. They are running a scam.

The insurance products they offer are overpriced and in many cases not applicable to most. They target the senior market who are already covered by insurance, in most cases have more than enough assets to cover final expences, don’t need additonal insurance and they offer the worst kind of insurance products- whole life and which the products offered do NOT acrue as much cash value as they claim and is way overpriced.

Bryan Brewer has a long history of ripping off investors, some to the tune of $11 million plus and also a long history of not paying employees. This is not a one time occurence.

This article is based on information provided to me from a friend from Orlando who was recently scammed by these two.  If you are a employee or an investor and are approached or come into contact with Bryan and Kathryn Brewer, run, don’t walk away. You will never get your money back if you invest and you will never get paid if you are a employee.

Most of you know me over the last 5 years or so as being outspoken against Bill Ackman and his unwaranted attacks on Herbalife and if you knew me prior to that, You will remember that I always warned about Ackman and his insane investment ideas that just never work And how he bilks people out of millions in his investments and over charges them.

It should be very clear by now that Ackman was dead wrong regarding Herbalife. He lost his $1 billion short bet and then some and his investment returns have been horrible, losing over $4 billion on Valeant stock alone. To the general public, many people could have cared less as they regarded Ackman as a crook and had little respect for Herbalife. To us HLF longs, we took it personal as we knew Ackman was either lying or ill informed.

Now lets move on. I have some friends in Orlando, FL who alerted me to another Bill Ackman type who is ripping off investors and even employees with his scam. His name is Bryan Brewer. A warrant for his arrest was issued last week.

Since 2008, Bryan and his wife Kathryn. A. Brewer have been embroiled in numerous scams starting in the Sarasota area and currently in Orlando.  Numerous lawsuits have been filed against Brian.  His wife Kathryn is a co-conspirator, is not named in the lawsuits, but she is the owner and manager of the current company under fire Monument Life.

Meet Bryan Brewer…………

Bryan tries to pass himself off as a wealthy successful businessman. But I am told he is first class Conman. This is his picture below…

 

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And this is his mug shot taken when he was arrested courtesy Orlando Jail. Doesn’t look like a wealthy businessman does he.

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Bryan Brewer is anything but a successful entrepreneur, his indebted TraxAir flight school and paddleboard company closed in recent years,  and he was arrested last week on contempt of court charges and faces a separate state investigation for failing to pay inmates hired to help sell insurance.

My friend in Orlando, who wants to remain anonymous as he is seeking work and too embarrassed to admit he was taken in by this fraud, told me this story:

“A few weeks ago I saw his ad on craigslist looking for professional sales people. The ad suggested a high income, it was insurance sales and that they would pay for licensing.  So I applied. I met the supervisor Kristen Turner, the secretary Gina, Mrs. Brewer and finally Bryan Brewer.”

“All seemed very charming. Very charismatic especially Mrs. Brewer whose only fault I could see was that she was wearing too much makeup.  Perhaps to hide what she really looks like.”

Meet Kathryn Brewer

Here is how my friend described her…….

“It is hard to see any evil under that over made up face.  If you ever watched and are familiar with the old Dynasty TV show, this person is more devious than Alexis Carrington. She is a real b’tch, liar and phony as they come.”

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The insurance company which is called “Monument Life” is the latest of the Brewers scams. Prior to this, the Brewer owned a flight school called “Trax Air” where students complained about loss of tuition and pilots quit after months of not being paid. Sound familiar? They also own a collection  firm called Monument Adjustment Bureau in Orlando.

“What really bothers me is that they destroyed our dream.” I was told. “Six of us were hired. We were all asked what we wanted for a salary and were told “No problem. We can meet that.” We were promised training pay and a “lucrative opportunity” that could lead to a high 6 figure plus income per annum. They promised to pay for our insurance licenses too. It all sounded so great. The office was very nice and it was in a great office park. Lot’s of prominent businesses leased in that area including Bank One and others. It looked so real. Turned out to be so phony. Mr. and Mrs. Brewer are real reptiles.”

“We worked for two weeks and brought up the pay once again.  We were told that we would get something in writing the next day which was 2 weeks after we started. Finally,  at the end of the shift, we were presented with letters, all of us and checks. We got what we asked for, we thought, until we tried to cash them.  The banks would not honor them.”

“When we first started, we asked where the former employees were. Mr. and Mrs. Brewer told us that they were all terminated due to a lack of production. All of them? Really? This sounded suspicious but Mr. and Mrs. Brewer were very charismatic and persuasive. The third party insurance companies they represented, American Amicable Life Insurance Company of Texas,  IA American Life Insurance Company, Occidental Life Insurance Company of North Carolina, Pioneer American Insurance Company and Pioneer Security Life Insurance Company were real so we figured to give it a shot.”

I think these companies need to take a second look at the Brewers and seriously consider dropping them. The Brewers and their company, Monument Life made for horrible representatives.  I wonder how many policy holders know who is selling them these products?

My friend goes on……..

“Late on a Monday Morning, January 29th, Patrick Matlock comes in. He is a big guy and the former manager for the Brewers. We see him. He was cordial and he smiled at us. He went into the call center to pick up some equipment, phones and headsets that he said were his. Then he went out to see Mr. and Mrs. Brewer and asked about his long over due wages and commissions. He was polite, courteous and professional. The Brewers, especially Mrs. Brewer were not. The conversation got louder and louder with Mrs. Brewer calling Mr. Matlock names and treating him in a very unprofessional manner, a manner in which no human being should be treated. Mr. Matlock exploded and said some very unkind things to Mrs. Brewer. I admit that is no way to talk to a lady, but then, Mrs. Brewer is by no means a lady. The Mother F’er name came out along with the C word.”

“Kristin Turner came into the call center room and told us all to leave, go down the stairwell and go outside. As we were moving, Mr. Brewer whizzed right past us. When the commotion started, he ran out of the office, down the stairs and went outside leaving his wife alone to handle this very upset former employee who was seriously cussing Mrs. Brewer.  Wow. What a man! What chivalry! What valor! What bravado! I am sure every wife would want a wussy like this as their husband. And Mr. Brewer claimed to be a former marine and skilled in self defense.”

He goes on.

“As we were outside, the police came. Apparently the secretary called them.  Mr. Brewer flagged them  down, told them “Kate is still in there”, this prompted them to look at Mr. Brewer suspiciously with a look like “what are you doing out here? Why did you leave your wife alone”, and Mr. Brewer said he wanted to file battery charges against Mr. Matlock, pointed to us and said they all saw it. Only when the police were there and went into the building, did Mr. Brewer  “courageously” go back in and reaffirmed that he wanted to file battery charges against Patrick Matlock.”

“When we went back inside, the police asked us all to make a statement. We all reported what we saw and heard.  Only Kristin Turner and Gina the secretary said they heard Mr. Matlock threaten Mrs. Brewer. Somehow I doubt if any threats were made other than Mr. Matlock saying, “You messed with the wrong guy. You owe me money and I intend to recieve it.”

And he goes on……

“No battery charges were ever filed against Mr. Matlock. The police left him go. Mr. Matlock did  have a witness who testified what the rest of us saw and heard and opposite to what Mr. & Mrs. Brewer and their two supervisory employees stated.”

And there is more…..

“Later that day, it was reported in the Orlando Sentinel that a warrant was issued against Mr. Brewer.”

From The Orlando Sentinel. Maitland Man to be jailed……..

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/classified/realestate/os-bryan-brewer-jailed-20180129-story.html

“Two days later, on Wednesday, the police came looking for Bryan Brewer. At that point all the employees left.  But when we asked about our checks that wouldn’t cash, Mrs. Brewer said, “Don’t worry about it” Are you starting to see the attitude of this modern day Bonnie & Clyde?”

“As mentioned above, this is not the Brewers first brush with the law. This is from 2008. Note that once again, Bryan Brewer denies any wrong doing on his part. Now you see why I compare him to Bill Ackman. Brewer, like Ackman, thinks denial is a river in Egypt.

Local Dealer Denies Charges. 

http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/LK/20070301/News/605203132/SH/

Back To Maitland Life………

“The state will investigate Monument Life,  a Maitland life insurance company, operated by Brewer and owned by his wife Kathryn A. Brewer, for failing to pay $11,000 to work-release crews at the call center, officials said last week.

As many as 15 work-release inmates worked during much of 2017 at Monument Life LLC in Maitland Center office park, speaking with prospective customers and routing calls to agents, according to former Monument manager Patrick Matlock. Their gross pay was to be about $10 an hour before placement companies took their fees, with wages deposited in a trust account. A share of the funds was to go to nonprofit Bridges International, which connects inmates with jobs.

“Some of the work-release inmates were good on the phone,” said Matlock, adding that he resigned in January after six months on the job and his own unpaid commissions exceeded $15,000.

This week, state corrections officials said they were “taking aggressive steps” to reclaim $11,528 owed to the inmates who worked at Monument. The correction department’s Office of Inspector General will open an investigation. A spokesman for the department said it marks the first time in the Inmate Trust Fund’s 18-year-history that an employer has left workers unpaid for months.”

My friend  goes on……

“Six of us were owed 2 weeks of wages. The checks did not clear.  Depending on what the employees agreed to, these unpaid wages amount to about $7,000, perhaps more. It really sucks going to work everyday. Working your butt off. Listening to these two (Mr. & Mrs. Brewer) yell and scream and then still not get paid.  We have filed a complaint with the state as well.  We hope to get paid. ”

He refused a better job   to work for Monument Life…..

“What really hurts is that I was offered another job, a real job with pay about what Monument was offering base plus benefits, but I turned it down to go with Monument thinking this was a great opportunity. The others felt exactly the same way.”

The latest troubles come after Brewer’s flight school TraxAir closed last year after his staff walked out, saying they had not been paid. Pilot students on immigration visas from other countries said they lost thousands of dollars they had deposited in school accounts.

In 2016, Brewer’s paddleboard-manufacturing plant in Volusia County shut down with the landlord and vendors going unpaid, according to David Rush, who oversaw the now-bankrupt U.S. Board company. Among the investors in that business: Central Florida philanthropist Tony Nicholson, who last year said he was owed $1 million after investing at Brewer’s recommendation.

Orlando Millionaire Tony Nicholson sues Bryan Brewer…….

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/86060102-132.html

Last week, Brewer was jailed and bonded out almost immediately on contempt-of-court charges for failing to disclose financial documents tied to a $10 million debt he owes a Russian agriculture executive.

Matlock said the workers going unpaid became particularly difficult to tolerate because Brewer and his wife, Katherine, Monument’s licensed agent, drove Land Rovers, lived in a lakefront home and told office staff of their $60,000 yacht vacation and $13,000 purchase of a purebred husky.

Brewer “had the money to pay them,” Matlock said.

The couple did not return calls to the Orlando Sentinel for comment. Brewer’s attorney, Scott Livingston, declined comment and in the past has said his client preferred to “litigate in the courts instead of the press.”

Monument Life manager Kristen Turner claimed the insurance group has contested the state’s claims because inmates wanted to be paid not only for their six hours a day working for the company but also their two-hour daily bus ride. Others said that this was not true.

Company officials said Brewer — who faces creditors, including the Internal Revenue Service — has no affiliation with Monument. But Matlock and other former employees detailed how Brewer operated the company. Basically Bryan Brewer put Monument Life under his wife’s name knowing full well  that it would be taken away from him owing to all of his debts and lawsuits.

One former employee said she was employed as a work-release inmate for Brewer and his wife from August through December but rarely got paid.

“He gave us a lot of hope,” said the Orlando resident, who did not want to be identified out of concerns her complaints could impact future job prospects. She said that he would bring in pizzas, fast food and bus passes but mostly had excuses about payroll glitches whenever workers questioned him about getting paid.

The woman was released last month. She said she has been able to able to find work, but other female inmates who worked there had few options when they were released without any of the back wages they were due.

The inmates, said Matlock, worked the phones whenever a prospective customer would answer a robocall. Matlock estimated the company sold about 500 policies, including 300 he said he sold over a six-month period ending in January. For each policy it sold, Monument got $1,000 from an affiliated insurance group.

Monument’s working inmates also had access to confidential financial information provided by prospective customers. How would you feel if inmates had your personal information at their fingertips?

“Yeah, they had access to everything — Social Security numbers, birth dates and all their personal financial information. These are unlicensed people,” Matlock said.

“The new staff that was just hired three weeks ago was appalled to hear that the Brewers had hired inmates and unlicensed agents at that to take social security numbers, birth dates and more.  ”

‘We were told that they had experienced sales people who just were not cutting it.” He told me. “This was just another lie from the Brewers.”

More Complaints Filed with Rip Off Report…..

Not surprisingly, a former employee from Apopka, Fl, filed a lengthly report and complaint against the Brewers, Monument Life, Trax and affiliated companies last week. Other complaints have been filed against the Brewers, Monument Life and Monument Adjustment Bureau from ripped off employees on The Glassdoor and Indeed employee review websites. I am sure more will be coming………..

 

 

This person who apparently represents a group, has set up a facebook page. Their statement is ” Our purpose with this is to collect on a debt owed to us by the Brewers and to protect other hard working employees, customers and investors from being swindled by these two.”

Here is the FB page………….   facebook.com/bryan.brewer.39794

We can only hope that Brewers will make good on their long over due wages to everyone and that perhaps they will either cleanup their act or  get shut down so they don’t ripoff anyone else.

Jeesh. And I thought Bill Ackman was a crook (He is!!!)

 

The beautiful office park where Monument Life operates out of. Proves that looks can be deceiving.  Just because your employer is leasing in a beautiful office park does not make him legit. The Brewers are allegedly behind on their lease so probably will be leaving this office area soon. 

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Home owned by the Brewers before it went into foreclosure…..

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Another view of the office park where Monument Life is located in Maitland, FL

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 PROFESSIONAL PHONE SALES (Maitland, FL) 

compensation: Guaranteed Draw + Commission + Paid Training

employment type: full-time

WHO WE ARE:We are an innovative life insurance company with the goal of helping clients with the protection of life insurance.WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR:• Telephone sales experience is a must
• Applicants who can appreciate and understand the needs of our growing customer base
• People who are dedicated to getting more out of life and striving for a real career
• High energy with a positive attitude and passion to help individuals improve their lives
• Strong communication skills, confidence, outgoing personality and phone voice
• Ability to communicate and assist our clients with our proven insurance products
• Ability to interact in a friendly professional manner with a wide range of personality types
• Strong negotiation skills
• Follow a script and overcome objections
• An aptitude for learning, understanding and conveying services to customers
• Ability to work in a professional office environment
• DependableJOB DETAILS:• Job Location: Maitland, FL
• Monday thru Friday: 11:00am – 6:00pm
• Saturdays: Optional Shift

WHAT WE OFFER:

• Guaranteed Draw + Commission + Paid Training
• Bonus Structure
• State licensing included
• Training and Sponsorship
• NOT A PIPE DREAM!….. A real OPPORTUNITY for serious people who want to succeed in life.

HOW TO APPLY:

• Call us at 1-800-342-1851
• Send your resume to jobs@monument.life
• Apply online at: http://monument.life/employment-application-page/

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More Pershing Square investors will be redeeming this week. Expect Pershing Sq. to fold in 2018. They will become Gotham Partners 2.

As we exit January and move into February, 2018, how many more Pershing Sq investors will be redeeming shares and moving away from Bill Ackman’s failed fund? And how many more Persh Sq. employees (there are not many left) will Ackman terminate to reduce costs?

While Pershing Sq investors had been redeeming shares from Ackman’s failing fund, the trend has been rising more and more as his investors become more educated on Ackman and realize his many failings.

I and so many others have been warning about Ackman and his reckless, self serving efforts for well over a decade.  It is not just a Herbalife-Ackman thing, although I did come on the internet soon after Ackmans bash & attack Herbalife facade started and after I did my own investigation of Herbalife in my area, talking to distributors, happy customers (yes, they have them although you would never know it by listening to Ackman and his braindead shills), going to Herbalife meetings, nutrition clubs and actually started using the products myself.  Then my wife and I became distirbutors albeit, initially to get some inside information on the company, read distributor rules etc. It was painfully obvious that everything Ackman and his shills were saying was a BOLD FACED LIE!

Now back to redemptions at Ackman’s Pershing Sq……..

Those redemptions increased even more when it became apparent that fewer and fewer new investors were coming in and investing with Ackman, Pershing Fund was losing money in spades, the entry fee to get into the fund was obscene as were the fees,  while more and more current investors were dumping shares after being so disappointed with Ackmans poor investment choices and seeing how hard it was to get their money out. Ackman didn’t want them to get their hands on their own money. People talk and they can only handle losing money for so long.

Latest news is that Ackman won’t even talk to his investors.  CHA CHING!!! I’ve been warning about this for years!!!!!!  HELLO!!!!!!

After taking investors money in his failing Pershing (Perishing) Fund, Ackman will not even talk to the people he sold to now. What a guy!!!

 

Like a little child who covers their ears when they don’t want to hear truth or complaints, Ackman has turned his back and tuned out the very investors who supported him. 

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Or perhaps this is Ackmans way of accepting defeat. In his mind, he knows he not only lost, he got clobbered and was oh so wrong from the getgo, not only on Herbalife but on so many other investments. But he will never openly admit it or meet with his investors. 

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Five years ago I predicted that Ackman would fail in his self serving quest to take down Herbalife. Was Herbalife too big to fall? No. Enron was much bigger than Herbalife. The reason was because truth and honesty was on the side of Herbalife. Greed and ego was on the side of Ackman. Greed and ego always loses.

 

I have always found it easy to spot a Greedy, Egotistical , Narcissistic person. Ackman stuck out like a sore thumb.

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Bright Future For HLF stock and Herbalife

Many investors are bullish on HLF stock. Expectations are for HLF to run up to $90 at least. I say it will run to over $100 per share by mid 2018.  Shorts are covering. Many more longs are coming in.  All Herbalife  distributors I talk to say they have been busy, busy, busy. Customers love these products. New Years resolutions usually are to lose weight and earn more money. With Herbalife they can do both. HLF longs can definitely earn alot of money as we have been and will continue to do so.

As news broke out, savvy Pershing Sq investors said good bye to Ackman and his poor returns. Meanwhile Herbalife (HLF) stock has been surging. I am sure this has put a smile on the face of fmr Herbalife CEO Michael O. Johnson and of course all HLF longs.

Former Herbalife CEO Michael O. Johnson has a broad smile on his handsome face these days seeing how his one time nemesis Bill Ackman has stumbled with his reckless HLF short bet while Herbalife is growing  and with HLF stock surging again. Johnson is 15 years senior in age to Ackman. But look at the difference in appearance! Ackman looks like he should be Michael O. Johnson’s father. 

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Oh wow what a difference 2 months makes. Last November, after Herbalife earnings and throughout most of November and December, the Ackman goons were wetting their pants and all over the internet with their all so often erroneous claims of doom and gloom on Herbalife (HLF) or to quote Allan Greenspan, “irrational exuberance” much ado over nothing. Their predictions that HLF wold fall to the 50s, then the 40s and then the 30s were as before horribly miscalculated.

We know that Herbalife’s earnings in November were lower than expected.  My reponse back in November was. So what? Is Herbalife the only company to have earnings on occasion that are disappointing? Nope. Irrational exuberance on the part of the mind numb Ackmanaholics thinking that the ride was over for Herbalife and HLF stock.

Herbalife did sell off after November earnings and continued to drop. Was Herbalife the only company to sell off after earnngs especially when earnings that were lower than expected? Nope. Do not companies that fall after earnings selling come back? Of course!  I told everyone that Herbalife had a fire sale. Stock was way oversold  and I was  going back in scooping up shares, buying call options and selling puts. I was ridiculed. But look at how HLF rose during this period. Not bad considering that the Ackman goons were predicting that HLF would close in the 50s before Christmas and 40’s by January 1st. Then the 30s before  February. But are they ever right? Nope. Just irrational exuberance and lack of experience. Not to mention cheap scare tactics.

 

Back in November, Ackman and his shills were telling everyone to short HLF, buy puts predicitng that HLF was heading to $40, possibly $30s by January, 2018.  This is why I tell everyone never to listen to Ackman, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, Matt Stewart or the other Ackman shills who overwhelm everyone with their lack of knowledge.

 

Meanwhile I suggested that HLF was a buy and said I was buying more shares, buying call options and selling puts.  Who was right? ………..again!!!!!!!

 

This is why I advise everyone NOT to listen to Ackman or his goons.  They never get it right and never will.

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Let’s also put to rest the rising short interest crap about HLF too. Short interest on Herbalife is still way below 2013 levels andin fact as I write this is dropping fast and newest stats are showing huge drops in SI. Pure conjecture by the Ackman goons and perhaps Ackman himself.

Ackman slashes fees at Pershing Sq and follows that up two weeks later by laying off 1/3 of his staff including his driver

Just a few weeks ago, Ackman announced that he was slashing fees in an attempt to bring in new investors to his overpriced Pershing Sq fund.  And just a few days ago, Ackman announced that he was firing 1/3 of his staff including his driver.  Karma is a b’tch. And it all has turned around against Ackman.

Why did Ackman do all this? Because Pershing Sq. is falling apart.

 

Ackman had to fire his driver and has been losing assets.  This is how he gets to work now. 

 

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BULLS STILL IN CHARGE. ICAHN STILL SQUEEZING THE LIFE OUT OF ACKMAN

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Despite the hype, hoopla and total crap primarily on FAKE NEWS Seeking Alpha and other blogs, Ackman was deeply, deeply in debt and on the losing side of his reckless HLF short position.  To wit, last fall, Ackman caved in and covered on his $1 billion $$$$ RECKLESS HLF POS.

But wait, didn’t Ackman say he was staying short on  HLF ’til the end of days’?? Is the end of days here already?  No. Now you know what Ackman is called “A Modern Day PT Barnum” Except that is a terrible insult to PT BARNUM. Of course just hours before covering Ackman was   still sending out Memo’s and appearing on CNBC saying that “I am still bearish on HLF. Herbalife is a pyramid scheme  and their stock is going to zero.” Yada, yada, yada, Yeah right.  Then hours later, he covers. A typical Ackman trick. Try to sucker naive shorts to come in, get longs to sell so he can cover at a lower price.

When Ackman says sell, that means buy. When Ackman speaks, don’t listen to him.

Bill Ackman. His paid shills and some naive shorts actually tried to get masses to believe that Herbalife is a “Pyramid Scheme” and that  HLF stock was gong to zero!!!!!! Intelligent people know better.  LOL!!! HAHAHAHA

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BETTING ON ZERO BOMBED AS PREDICTED

Last March, 2017,  the Ackman goons or perhaps goon, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven were once again wetting themselves (himself) over the release of ‘Betting on Zero’ Many of us predited it would bomb. Irons predicted that would be, and once again imitating his idol Bill Ackman,  a “Herbalife Deathblow” (hahahahahaha) and would educated the unknowing public as to the terrible travesties of this horrible company called Herbalife which must be eradicated from the face of the earth! LOL!!!!

Chris Irons aka quoththeraven aka ‘little billy ackman is not smiling these days.  His crazed “FAKE NEWS”  anti-Herbalife stories on Seeking Alpha never put a dent in Herbalife or HLF stock. It only feed the shorts with false hope thinking that Irons was some sort of serious investor with his one man company quoththeraven Research (LOL) (What research???)  while enabling the jerk to earns $35 a story and a penny per click on the Seeking Alpha Fake News thread.

 

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And what happened to’Betting On Zero’ which Irons was so exuberent about? He said that  ‘Betting on Zero would make the masses aware of the “scheme” that is Herbalife! (LOL)  The masses already had enough of Ackman’s bullshit and were sick ot it and many among the masses like Herbalife and their products.  Contrary to Ackman and his shills, there are millions and millions of happy saitisfied Herbalife customers right in the USA not to mention worldwide. ‘Betting on Zero? What happened?  It bombed like everything else Ackman  did and Irons hyped. 

Is this what Chris Irons (quoththeraven) really looks like??

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Of course, as usual, Irons assumes he knows something that nobody else does and also incorrectly assumed that the general public was in the dark about Herbalife and not aware of Ackman’s Fairytale, reckless HLF short play and lies about Herbalife.

Whatever happened to “Crime Busters” 

And what of the clown who called himself “Crimebusters” and claimed he never lost a legal battle, was saying that Herbalife would be shut down for sure and he should know because “I am never wrong and never lose”.  He said “Herbalife is a scam and must be eradicated” Oh strong words. Looks like he was eradicated.  What ever happened to this guy?  This nut? This whackjob? He has been MIA for over a year.  Now perhaps we know why he lays claim that he never loses, he quits when he knows he can’t win and disappears so therefore doesn’t call it as a loss. Perhaps, but, he never wins either.

 

I did see a homeless guy who matched “CrimeBusters” description holding up a sign saying, “Will bash Herbalife and other MLMs for food and money.”  Could it be????

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‘Betting on Zero’ was dropped from the few theaters it was showing in. And now, in case you missed it, ‘Betting on Zero’ is now available on netflix. But for how long and who cares? Pretty soon Ackman will be paying people to watch it. Yeah, it is that bad.

Quoththeraven (Chris Irons) tried to make everyone think that the general public was not aware of Ackman’s short play and attack on Herbalife. He actually tried to convince people that only investors knew this and ‘Betting On Zero’  would educate the masses. Of course the rest of knew that the general public was not only very much aware of this farce created by Ackman, but also were sick of it. And why would anyone pay money to go see a Ackman paid  for informercial masking itself as a “documentary” when it was filled with the same crap they saw for free on tv and on the internet? No wonder it bombed as I and so many others predicted.

Meanwhile back on Wall Street, things are still looking very bleak for Billy boy Ackman. Despite his relentless attacks since 2012 and especially after November, 2017, HLF showed a minor selloff. Based on the way the Ackman goons inaccurately painted the picture, we would have expected a $20 drop at least on HLF. Or as quoththeraven predicted “buy puts HLF going down to $30s by November”  Never  happened.

The fact is, investors have lost faith in Ackman. His investors have been redeeming for quite some time and were still redeeming this week. Pershing Sq assets have been cut in more half from more than $20 billion to now under $9 billion and still dropping.

To be true, Ackman has a long history of misteps and bad investments. His investors are tired of investing with him and losing money.   In fact, some have called Billy Ackman “The dumbest investor on Wall Street.” That is putting it mildly.

http://www.teapartynation.com/bill-ackman-the-dumbest-investor-on-wall-street/

And for more info on Billy  Ackman………..

http://www.therealbillackman.com

Bill Ackman’s new nickname could be “SLASHER”

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Entry into Pershing Square funds is not cheap. There is a huge capital investment, nosebleed fees, high commission, huge back end fees if and when you get smart and redeem and when you do get smart and say you want to redeem,  Ackman’s snake oil salesmen will do everything possible to prevent you from getting your hands on your own money!

Why are so many Pershing Sq investors still redeeming and so few new investors buying in? Lost faith in Bill Ackman. It’s as simple as that. Too many mistakes. Too many bad investments. Too much hype. In fact, too many blatant lies.

HINT: This is why new investors should not be buying into this fund and all the more reason why current Pershing Sq investors should redeem and get out a.s.a.p.  You could make more on a inexpensive mutual  fund or cost effective ETF. Why invest with Ackman? You shouldn’t.

And if you are in the fund, you should sell. Redeem. Dump it. Better to get out with less money than lose it all. Betting on Ackman’s investment expertise is a recipe for disaster.

Better to bet on a blindfolded monkey throwing darts than on Ackman’s ability to pick winning stocks.

 

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An old axiom in the the markets is “Never try to catch a falling knife.” No where is this more accurate than with Pershing Sq in which investment returns have fallen sharply over the last 3 years and still dropping. I predict that 2018 will be Ackman’s Pershing Sq. worst year yet. And I have accurately predicted the same over the last 3 years. My winning streak is intact.

In fact, it is now more apparent than ever that Ackman is pulling his hair out trying to save Pershing Sq and attempt to prevent it from becoming Gotham Partners II.

Notice how Ackman is now  going back to 15 year returns. Why? Because over 15 years his funds do show a profit. Big problem though. The investments in those early years 10-15 years ago have burned out. The big question all Pershing Sq investors have now is;

What have you done for us recently Ackman?” 

Answer is Lose $$$$$$.

A new motto is:

Lose Money Now – Ask Ackman How!

And how true.

We also now know that Ackman has sold off a lot of his investments. Most of which he was bragging about not long ago which went sour. If in fact Ackman ever did really have any magic, obviously that magic is now gone.

Most feel that Ackman never had any real magic or great strategies, he was just plain lucky. Like the proverbial blindfolded monkey.  He is no Buffet. My 12 yr old gets better returns in her proxy account.

If you have been a investor in Pershing Sq  and mirroring Ackman’s trades, you have seen double digits losses over the last three years just as I and others  predicted back in 2014. I said Perhsing Sq would see another big loss in 2017 and they did and now I see Pershing Sq as showing another major loss in 2018.

Those of us who have been in the game even prior to the Ackman-Herbalife saga, know very well about Ackman and his many mistakes. Yes he has had a few hits, perhaps one big hit. But so many misses. I honestly don’t know any other hedge fund manager who has been more wrong more often than Ackman.

Several months ago, Ackman was bragging about some “Mystery” investment that he invested in and is excited about.  He wouldn’t say what it is which I believe is a red flag suggesting that this is just a smoke screen to try to slow down the massive redemptions he is getting at Pershing Sq.

There was no mystery investment. It was all a BIG HOAX.

However, even if Ackman did  have a investment that has grown by 20%, how much   does that affect his fund overall? It may bring it to a 2%-3% return.  I repeat, Ackman’s fund at Pershing Sq has been down double  digits 3 years in a row. So at best, a 3% return in 2017 if that happens will leave Pershing Sq investors and others who follow Ackman’s reckless trades with a 3 year loss of  about-37%. I don’t know of any other hedge  fund or other manager who has done anywhere near this poorly.

Who wants to settle for 2% returns especially with such a huge up front investment and incredible inflated fees, commissions and other fees? And Ackman tries to play the nice guy. The good guy. The knight on a white horse coming to rescue those poor suckers who bought into Herbalife’s “pyramid” scheme.

If you ask me, Ackman is the one running a scheme. What he does and is doing makes pyramid schemes, of which Herbalife is not one,  look legitimate. I think it’s time the SEC looks into Ackman. Does a audit. Check returns and any profits with investors. Contact all of the Pershing Sq investors who redeemed i.e. dumped their worthless Pershing Sq fund investments and moved on. Let’s see how many victims we have over there. Should be interesting. And perhaps the SEC may want to go back in time and research what really happened with Gotham Partners and how many investors were robbed on that deal.

AND……….As Herbalife continues on it’s growth mode,  this will eat into Pershing Sq even more. Not to mention Ackman’s  other investments are not performing very well.

I warned many months ago, “Don’t put too much credence into Ackman’s claim that he has some super investment that has grown by 20%.”  Ackman has a poker face and talks a lot. There is a reason why he has been called “A modern day version of PT Barnum” It is all show and drama. Look at his track record. Yuck!

Ackman also maintains a bearish attitude towards Herbalife no matter how wrong he always turns out to be.  I am certain that he will maintain a long term short position on HLF even when it takes Pershing Square to 0 and becomes Gotham Partners II.

Interesting too is that the latest on Ackman is that he doesn’t even want to discuss Herbalife anymore. CHA CHING!!!!

What happened to the bravado? That cocky attitude? Many of us warned that Ackman was totally clueless about Herbalife. He was using old, debunked lies about Herbalife and in some cases where there were Herbalife Dist engaged in wrong doing, those dist were terminated pronto. However, Ackman never mentioned this or that those dist. went against Herbalife’s rules.

Pershing Sq had nearly $20 billion in assets a year ago. Now it is down under $9 billion and declining fast. More and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming daily. And few new investors are buying into this horrible fund and for good reason. It is expensive, has nose bleed fees and commission and has a horrible, absolutely horrible return. Most of all, look who manages it. Not an enviable record. And who wants to pay so much to lose $$$? You don’t need Ackman for this.  In fact, novice investors would do much better to invest on their own and generally massively outperform Ackman. My 12 yr old  does better with her proxy account.

Carl Icahn gave Ackman some good advice months ago……..

Carl Icahn, despite the negative attacks against him from smaller billionaire with a rapidly declining net worth Billy Ackman, tried to give Billy boy some good advice months ago.  He said that Ackman had gotten too emotional over the HLF short play and was trying to win a bet against Herbalife that was impossible He said that Ackman had “lost perspective” and indeed he has. And now obviously Pershing Sq is paying for Ackmans ineptness.

We all know that Ackman was responsible for taking Gotham Partners down. The once hedge fund office is now a dress factory. Ackman takes miscalculated risks and loses way too often.  And he loses B-I-G Hence, so many of his Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares and washing their hands of Ackman. Who can blame them?

Just a few months ago, Pershing Sq took a huge hit at the expence of Ackmans foolishness and bad investment judgement with a $4 billion+ loss on VRX. And all this time Ackman was telling his sheep to hold on. He had carefully researched this company. The stock would bounce back.  Or so he said. Ackman doubled down by buying more shares as the stock dipped incurring even more losses. Finally selling when $VRX hit $10 for once again a $4 BILLION +LOSS. Ouch! Bad move. Bad judgement.  But it wasn’t his first and won’t be his last.

But does Ackman really know what he is doing in investments? Doesn’t look like it.

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Do you remember when VRX used to trade @ $33.51 just a few months ago and Ackman was still so bullish on it? Ackman bought VRX at $270 and rode it all the way down to $10 before finally selling.  Does this sound like good judgement to you?

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For more on this wacko, go to this website……….

http://www.therealbillackman.com

Today,  Herbalife (HLF) is up again. Make that three days in row. Ackman and his shills are wrong again. I don’t care if they hold on to their reckless short HLF positions. Hey, it’s their money not mine. I bet their phones are ringing from brokers with Margin Calls. 

In other news, TESLA is also up today. Didn’t Seeking Alpha with their FAKE NEWS STORIES  tell us to sell that? And what did I say? Hold on right? So once again, irregardless of Herbalife and HLF stock, who is right and who is wrong as usual,  the FAKE NEWS on Seeking Alpha which is why we call it FAKE NEWS!. qtr research needs to move out of Chris Irons bedroom, out of stock market speculation and  Chris Irons needs to move into something else, like maybe mowing grass? Perhaps he can do that without screwing up.

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December, 2012 will go down as the worst time in Bill Ackmans life and will indelibly be etched in time as the time when Bill Ackman made the worst mistake of  his life—–Lying about Herbalife.

Every investor/trader shorts stocks from time to time. Nothing wrong with that.  Typically, savvy, sophisticated, educated and successful traders will research the companies and   stocks before shorting them, they will use technical analysis and other tools to determine whether a stock is ripe for shorting. Heretofore, no one has ever shorted a stock that successfully beat earnings 22 quarters in a row,  with a company that was and still is in a huge growth mode and used old, outmoded and debunked crap to create short position and then call it “A illegal PYRAMID SCHEME and their stock is headed to Zero” as Billy boy Ackman did to Herbalife at that now infamous informercial he mislabeled a presentation back in December 2012.

Billy boy Ackman is not what he claims to be. He has been apropiately named “The Worst of Wall Street”  Just ask anyone who follows his trades or anyone of the many who have redeemed shares and walked away from Pershing Sq. because of Ackman’s very bad investment decisions. 

http://www.therealbillackman.com

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*FACT-Ackman’s thesis was all wrong and still is. Where is Sean Dineen these days????

*FACT-Pershing Sq was having a bad year in 2012 and Ackman need to work some magic   so squew the numbers. So why not go after Herbalife? So he thought.

*FACT-Ackman did open a huge $1 billion plus short POS on HLF and allegedly bought December, 2012 puts.

*FACT-The Sohn Conference Informercial was conducted just days before options expiration

*FACT-Ackman would not allow anyone from Herbalife to be in attendance at this Sohn Conference Informercial to offer a point/counter point discussion. What was Ackman afraid of? Obviously the truth and he wanted nothing to ruin the big gains he was expecting from those puts and short POS before the end of December to sugar coat prospectuses to lure in more victims into his Pershing Sq fund scheme(Or is that Perishing??)

Ackman sure created an incredible Fairytale with his FAKE NEWS story on Herbalife and he continues with that FAKE NEWS story to this day. Big problem though: Ackman has been taking a licking on this insane, crazy, reckless, winless HLF short bet.

Despite the hype and drama, bringing in his buddies which included 2 AGs and a US senator, numerous appearances on CNBC, conferences and memos, blogs etc. after nearly 5 years Ackman is deeper in the  hole with his HLF short than ever before and barely hanging on by his fingernails

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To date Ackman has lost an estimated $7 million on this HLF short bet. To make any profit on this at all, HLF has to drop to $30. To make a huge profit, it has to drop to under $20. After the Sohn Conference Informercial, HLF did drop as low as $24 but rallied back up. And then when Carl Icahn came on the scene, it really rallied and went as high as $84 in January 2014.

Through it all, Ackman has been appearing on CNBC, sending out memos, apearing all over, frantically trying to find someone who will pretend to be a Herbalife “victim” still says “Herbalife is a pyramid scheme and the stock is going to zero” and everytime he says that, HLF goes higher, higher and higher. While HERBALIFE continues to grow constantly adding more and more and more preferred customers and distributors.

Ackman would be better off trying to shovel sand off of a beach. Same result!

Clearly Ackmans fairytale, and that is all it ever was has turned into a nightmare for this failing billionaire. More and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares, fewer new accounts are being opened.  Ackman had no earthly clue what he was doing when he started this nor did he care that he as putting tens of thousands of HLF longs at risk,  4.5 million Herbalife distributors, 8,000 Herbalife employees without a job or a business opportunity that they  worked long and hard at and potentially leaving millions of happy customers all over the world without a product. Why? All because of Greed & Ego.

While Ackman bashes Herbalife, authentic billionaires who truly understand network marketing,  business and want to help people succeed, fully support it. 

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I value the word of these wise and very successful people over shyster, scammer Billy Boy Ackman. 

Regarding that short bet, Yeah I know Ackman claimed he was going to donate any profits to charity. C’mon.

Who invests $1 billion to short a stock and then passes it on to charity? This was all smoke and mirrors.  His eyes were bleeding green and he was chopping at the lips thinking of the billions he could make if this scam  against Herbalife really worked.  And he would look like a do goody to the uneducated and uninformed.  He would look like the “good guy” when he reality, he is quite the opposite.

Thank God it didn’t work.

Herbalife posted first quarter earnings on Thursday that were a blowout substantially exceeding analysts expectations and putting to rest the concerns that the FTC determination would seriously impact Herbalife going forward.

AS many of us have been stating for some time, there would be no serious impact. Herbalife has always been focused on retail sales along with recruiting. Sure there were some shysters who did not follow company guidelines and broke FTC rules by front end loading and selling worthless tools like stale leads, web sites and trying to create telemarketing heroes out of people with no previous sales experience and offered very little if any valuable assistance. Once reported, these people were terminated and actually went with other companies.

A walk down memory lane

Interesting is that when these violaters were reported  and terminated by Herbalife, the Ackman shills were all over the old Yahoo message boards as well as other personal blogs, websites stating “Top leaders leaving Herbalife” This started back in December 2012. They never mentioned that these “Top Leaders” were terminated by Herbalife. Surprised? I wasn’t

The same garbage, not surprisingly started to appear in the Seeking Alpha Fake stories.  Back then, there were as many as 5 anti-HLF “stories” appearing daily in SA. I challenged the authors to  retract their comments and indicate that these “top reps” were actually terminated. Of course they never did. It would take away from their drama and lies. Eventually though the truth came out. Especially when Carl Icahn came on the scene in January 2013.

It should be noted that these anti-HLF people (probably one person with a bunch of aliases) were predicting HLF would hit zero by March, 2013. Hello. It is May, 2017. And we are a long way from zero.

They also constantly reiterated Ackman’s insane line and made it their own:

“HLF is going to 0 and I have a strong sell on it.”

Oh really? What qualifies him to set a target price or a rating on it? Answer: Nothing!

Chris Irons aka Birdbrain quoththeraven

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The big mouth in all of this tried to make it appear as though he was a big roller. Some big time analyst or celebrity. Using an alias, he even tried to suggest he was Hugh Heffner! LOL!  In fact, by his own admission he later, about 2 years later with help from Herbie admitted he was in fact “just a little guy” Yes indeed but he never revealed just how little. That was a few years ago.  Now he is trying to play the “big roller” role again and wants some people to think he really knows something. Clue: He doesn’t

Of course I am referring to Chris Irons aka quoththeraven.  I know you already knew it.  And as a another walk down memory lane, who was it that revealed his real first name was Chris and was about to reveal his whole name until he did it himself, embarrassed by my letting the cat out of the bag? Of course, I was the one. And keep in mind, prior to all of this, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven tried to convince everyone that he would never, never, never,never, ever release him real name because he was getting so much hate mail and death threats. LOL—–The drama continued. So much bull. But once I let people know that I was about to reveal his real name, the so called “Hate mail” and Deaththreats” were no longer an issue.

Chris Irons challenges John Hempton to a debate. Really Chris????

Almost too funny, I got a memo from someone who still subscribes to Chris Irons aka quoththeravens twitter feed that he wants to challenge John  Hempton, anytime, anywhere. While I can’t speak for John Hempton, I would love to see this happen. Is there any doubt that John Hempton would mop the floor with qtr??? Have you ever read any of quoththeravens (Chris Irons) stuff? He is not a very good communicator. Communication is not his forte at all. And he is never accurate. Hempton is. And Hempton understands investing. Chris Irons does not. He is always so wrong. My $$$$ are on Hempton, that is if Chris Irons actually accepts. But rest easy, he won’t. Just more of the drama.

I also received several messages from people sending me tweets that quoththeraven posted on his quoththeraven twitter page. I’ve been blocked and thankful for that just as I am continually deleting all of quoththeravens fake aliases from my twitter account. Interesting that this guy is so obsessed with following me.

Apparently on Thursday and Friday Irons came out like a raving lunatic. He couldn’t believe the earnings results nor how the street reacted and HLF soared. Was like Ackman’s ill fated “Herbalife death blow” in July 2014 (hahahahahaha) Some deathbow. Ackman looked like the fool he is as did Irons and whatever other followers Ackman has and HLF shorts. They were in shock. No response for about a week. Then Irons tried to spin it as he always does and the market laughed as they always do.

And BTW, 3 years ago Matt Stewart who many people think is just another alias for Chris Irons challenged Lenny Clements to a debate. Lenny accepted. But where was Matt?!!!!!! Lenny is a recognized authority on MLM. Stewart? He has an opinion and an agenda and is always wrong.

Matt also suggested that the Michigan AG and then all AGs across America would “pile on” Herbalife after two of Ackman’s buddies, both AGs initated action.  That died very quickly and no other AGs did anything.

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Chris Irons aka quoththeravens reaction to HLF earnings and market on Thursday nite and Friday. 

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Getting back to last Thursday, in Chris Irons world, earnings were bad. The sky was falling for Herbalife. Vindication for Ackman. Billy boy was right, yada, yada, yada. Funny the street didn’t see it that way as HLF SOARED in AH trading and continued to run up on Friday.  Chris Irons aka quoththeraven is obviously living in his own fantasy world and no doubt he thinks the rest of the world is oblivious to the truth and we, as he puts it so often, “just don’t get it” LOL!!!!!!!!

Moving on to 2nd quarter earnings

All we heard from the Anti-HLF’ers since HLF’s 4th qtr earnings was that the FTC decision would show up in Q1 earnings. Well we just had them, Herbalife did extremely well and predictably, the new argument from the Herbalife bashers is that it will show up in 2nd qtr earnings. In case these guys missed it, Herbalife had a strong outlook for 2017 and spring is always a good time for Herbalife sales. People want to lose weight for summer beachtime and warm weather season.  Not to mention their diversified product line of wellness, skin care and sports  supplements. Look for 2nd qtr earnings to also exceed.

And of course when Herbalife exceeds earnings in Q2, then the bashers will say wait until Q3, Q4, (yawn)

Some people suggest that there is a final test coming to see which side is  right, Ackman or Herbalife. Look at the last 4 1/2 years and look at 1st qtr earnings for 2017. Look at the reaction from the markets. I think it is obvious which side is right and pardon my grammar, but it ain’t Ackman. It is over for Ackman.

Carl Icahn has tightened his grip on Billy boy. Choking the life out of him. And Icahn is expected to be building on his position.  Good bye Billy.  You’re just a crybaby in the school yard. Always were, always will be.

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Then some say that the bulls are winning for now.  For now????  The bulls have been winning this since January 2013!!!!!!!!!!

Some keep bringing out the FTC fine from last June. “That Herbalife paid a $200 million fine in July to end the FTC’s investigation into whether the multi-level marketer of diet shakes was a pyramid scheme, as Ackman had accused.”  Or that is how they say it.

Herbalife DID NOT pay the fine to end the FTCs investigation. FTC does not negotiate with companies that break the law. It was certain Herbalife distributors who broke the law and thus Herbalife ended up paying a fine for their improper actions. As already mentioned above, these distributors were terminated by Herbalife and their actions were never condoned by Herbalife and clearly against Herbalife policy.  And most of that fine went back to Herbalife via fmr Herbalife distributors who returned to the company at the end of qtr 4 and beginning of q1 and used that money to buy more Herbalife products. Where were the co called “Herbalife victims” Only in Ackmans imagination.

In fact, Herbalife agreed to distinguish between distributors who sell the product and preferred members who merely want to use the products. Ackman, who knows little or nothing about network marketing or even how to pick stocks as evidenced by his huge losses on HLF short not to mention VRX recently and JCP, BORDERS, TARGET etc.  scoffed at this idea and still claims that he sees HLF going to zero. But of course he does. His reputation is at stake and he has already lost approximately $700 million on this very reckless and poorly research HLF short play. And by the way, didn’t he also say he was bullish on VRX right up until he pulled the plug and sold it AT A $4 BILLION LOSS??? Ackman’s word is not his bond. His word is meaningless. He will say he is staying with his HLF short POS and then pull the plg and cover seconds later.

Herbalife reported 18,652 new members in North America in the first quarter, that number does not include the preferred members, a contingent that is several times larger than the distributors who actually sell the product to others. (Since Herbalife began separating these two categories in mid-January, 80% of new U.S. recruits signed up as preferred members, the company said.)

Previously, the Herbalife bashers claim was that Herbalife did not have any customers. Now Herbalife is proving they do. And now the Ackmanaholics Herbalife bashers look at this as bad news for Herbalife??????????? I don’t think so. It proves what Herbalife has been saying all along. That there are real customers. And I am certain that is the way the street saw it too based on the huge rally on Thursday AH and on Friday.

The total combined number of new U.S. distributors and preferred members is just slightly below what it was last year: In the first quarter of 2016, Herbalife disclosed 83,276 new North American recruits, of which about 80,200 were in the U.S. This year, the number was 78,900 for the same period, a decline of 1.7%, according to the company.

But, take into consideration the constant attacks by Ackman and his shills. Contrary to what Ackman and his shills say, this has leaked out to the general public and has affected Herbalife to some degree. Mainstreet is very much aware of this and not because of that Ackman informercial mislabeled a documentary.  However, in spite of Ackman’s unsubstantiated remarks, Herbalife still continued to grow massively outpacing other network marketing-MLM companies in North America.

And of course, you have to take into account the current state of the economy and that USA had a presidential election in 2016. These things always create turmoil in the the markets.  ALL told, Herbalife’s numbers were very impressive if not extraordinary.

Even before the quarter ended, there were signs that Ackman and other Herbalife detractors had underestimated the number of consumers amid the company’s distributor ranks. This is nothing new. In 2012, Ackman also underestimated and misjudged when herbalife reps would renew. It was a huge miscalulation.

When the FTC sent settlement checks earlier this year to supposed Herbalife “victims” who had supposedly never made any money as distributors, many of those who are now preferred members received them. Fans of the diet and nutrition products who never intended to resell them, some of those people said they planned to spend the settlement money on more Herbalife shakes and protein bars. Put another way, that FTC fine is being redirected  back to Herbalife and Herbalife did not pay a fine to end the FTC investigation. The FTC does not operate that way. If Herbalife was guilty of any wrong doing, they would have been shut down. They weren’t. Case closed. Except in the minds of Ackman and his nutty follower(s)

Some will remember that Herbalife faced a major challenge back in 1985. Prior to the media attack then, Herbalife’s sales were over $512 million annually and were up to over $90 million a month in January, 1985. After the media attack, Herbalife sales dropped all the way down to only $10 million annually.  This occurred in the 1980s. We all know Herbalife came roaring back. Also, I think that challenge was far more potent that what little weenie Ackman has offered. Herbalife is very resilent and has always proved that they are following the laws. Legal and ethical.

The FTC was yanked into this by Ackman via his buddy Sen. Markey.  What was the result? Ackman lost again and we haven’t heard from Sen. Markey. I wonder if he is still close friends with ACKMAN after this embarrassment???? And how about those two AGs who were such good buddies with Billy boy, where are they? Also been very quiet.

Sen. Markey may be eating ice cream cones, but he has had very little to do with his (former??) good buddy Billy boy Ackman

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As already mentioned, that FTC settlement to so called Herbalife “victims” has brought more former distributors and preferred members back to Herbalife and they are using that money to buy more Herbalife products.  So the settlement is actually being redirected back to Herbalife. Interesting. Or at least much of it.

Also, Herbalife as we all know has their WinBack program in place which has been very successful bringing back more former distributors and preferred members. And of course  Herbalife reps are hard at work building their businesses. I see the button “Lose Weight Now – Ask Me How” everywhere and Herbalife reps inviting people to their nutrition clubs. Speaking of which, I love the nutrition clubs. They are very powerful.

Another thing, spring is always the best time of the year for Herbalife as people are focusing on losing weight for summer and warm weather season. Expect sales to SOAR. And there are ads all over for Herbalife. Not to mention that Herblaife’s product line goes beyond just weight loss to sports supplements, wellness products, skin care and more.  All of these things are positives and I expect Herbalife to have a OUTSTANDING 2nd quarter.

The squeeze on Ackman tightened up considerably last Thursday. Expect to get even tighter.  MOASS is here.

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I also enjoy playing with quoththeraven aka Chris Irons, Ackman, his braindead shills and the stupid and ignorant HLF shorts.  Every single time they open their mouths via the internet with outrageus, ridiculous “what ifs”  and “maybes” Doom & Gloom predictions, yet they are always wrong and I am always right. I look forward to doing it again next quarter and watching them be oh sooo wrong yet again. My guess is that Ackman will be gone by then. But this guy will continue. I guess he really needs that $35 an article and a penny per click from the garbage he writes on SA.

Hey Chris, so there is no hard feelings, I have  some friends in Philly who may be able to help you. They are looking for a gardener and someone to mow their lawn. Probably will pay better than writing garbage on Seeking alpha and more ethical than promoting Pump & Dump pennystock junk. Of course, this is assuming you really do live in Philly and are fit enough to    run a lawn mower and do  garndening work.  Do you really live in Philly? Perhaps that is total bull too.

Ackmanaholics and shills are really funny.  No matter  how many times they are wrong, which is everytime, they still maintain they are right and think they can manipulate t he market with their b.s.  It never works! They are like the guy who hits himself on the head with a hammer. He should only have to do that one time to realize, “Ouch, that hurts.”

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Herbalife had great earnings as I and so many other experienced investors indicated long before earnings was announced. I made it obvious that I was long a week before and was expecting great earnings. I increased my POS on HLF, bought calls, sold puts and bought more shares. And do you know how many companies would love to have the numbers that Herbalife produced on Thursday? Do you know how many MLM companies would love to acquire 83,276 new distributors just in North America in 1 yr and without the noise and distraction of that lunatic Ackman???

Clearly, what Herbalife did on Thursday was nothing short of mind boggling.

BTW, here are some of my other holdings. Obviously, I can’t put an image of my account on here.  I know how to invest successfully. Unlike Ackman and Chris Irons. BTW, did you know that even though Chris Irons along with his idol Ackman, makes wise cracks about Herbalife reps, calls them “get rich quick money hungry scam artists” Do you know how he makes his living? He is a PUMPnDUMP pennsystock promoter.

And interesting too, in another tweet that I received made by Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, he indicates he wants the name calling stopped but then proceeds to name call Michael O. Johnson and new Herbalife CEO. Well, well. Those of us who ever read his stuff have come to expect this.  No surprise.

Hey Chris, my friends in Philly really are looking for someone to mow their grass and be their gardener. At least this would allow you to make an honest living, for a change.  And no doubt more $$$ than what you make now. IF you are healthy enough to do it that is.stock-photo-cute-man-mowing-lawn-in-the-backyard-of-his-house-191098076

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How many more Pershing Square investors redeemed and dumped Pershing Sq funds this week? Today?

While Pershing Sq investors had been redeeming shares from Ackman’s failing fund, the trend has been rising more and more as his investors become more educated on Ackman and realize his many failings.

Those redemptions increased even more when it became apparent that fewer and fewer new investors were coming in and investing with Ackman while more and more current investors were dumping shares after   being so disappointed with Ackmans poor investment choices. People talk and they can only handle losing money for so long.

As news broke out, savvy Pershing Sq investors said good bye to Ackman and his poor returns. Meanwhile Herbalife (HLF) stock has been surging. I am sure this has put a smile on the face of fmr Herbalife CEO Michael O. Johnson and of course all HLF longs.

Former Herbalife CEO Michael O. Johnson has a broad smile on his handsome face these days seeing how his one time nemesis Bill Ackman has stumbled with his reckless HLF short bet while Herbalife is growing  and with HLF stock surging again. Johnson is 15 years senior in age to Ackman. But look at the difference in appearance! Ackman looks like he should be Michael O. Johnson’s father. 

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Oh wow what a difference 2 months makes. Last November, after Herbalife earnings and throughout most of November and December, the Ackman goons were wetting their pants and all over the internet with their all so often erroneous claims of doom and gloom on Herbalife (HLF) or to quote Allan Greenspan, “irrational exuberance” much ado over nothing. Their predictions that HLF wold fall to the 50s, then the 40s and then the 30s were as before horribly miscalculated.

We know that Herbalife’s earnings in November were lower than expected.  My reponse back in November was. So what? Is Herbalife the only company to have earnings on occasion that are disappointing? Nope. Irrational exuberance on the part of the mind numb Ackmanaholics thinking that the ride was over for Herbalife and HLF stock.

Herbalife did sell off after November earnings and continued to drop. Was Herbalife the only company to sell off after earnngs especially when earnings that were lower than expected? Nope. Do not companies that fall after earnings selling come back? Of course!  I told everyone that Herbalife had a fire sale. Stock was way oversold  and I was  going back in scooping up shares, buying call options and selling puts. I was ridiculed. But look at how HLF rose during this period. Not bad considering that the Ackman goons were predicting that HLF would close in the 50s before Christmas and 40’s by January 1st. Then the 30s before  February. But are they ever right? Nope. Just irrational exuberance and lack of experience. Not to mention cheap scare tactics.

 

Back in November, Ackman and his shills were telling everyone to short HLF, buy puts predicitng that HLF was heading to $40, possibly $30s by January, 2018.  This is why I tell everyone never to listen to Ackman, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, Matt Stewart or the other Ackman shills who overwhelm everyone with their lack of knowledge.

 

Meanwhile I suggested that HLF was a buy and said I was buying more shares, buying call options and selling puts.  Who was right? ………..again!!!!!!!

 

This is why I advise everyone NOT to listen to Ackman or his goons.  They never get it right and never will.

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Let’s also put to rest the rising short interest crap about HLF too. Short interest on Herbalife is still way below 2013 levels andin fact as I write this is dropping fast and newest stats are showing huge drops in SI. Pure conjecture by the Ackman goons and perhaps Ackman himself.

Ackman slashes fees at Pershing Sq and follows that up two weeks later by laying off 1/3 of his staff including his driver

Just a few weeks ago, Ackman announced that he was slashing fees in an attempt to bring in new investors to his overpriced Pershing Sq fund.  And just a few days ago, Ackman announced that he was firing 1/3 of his staff including his driver.  Karma is a b’tch. And it all has turned around against Ackman.

Why did Ackman do all this? Because Pershing Sq. is falling apart.

 

Ackman had to fire his driver and has been losing assets.  This is how he gets to work now. 

 

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BULLS STILL IN CHARGE. ICAHN STILL SQUEEZING THE LIFE OUT OF ACKMAN

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Despite the hype, hoopla and total crap primarily on FAKE NEWS Seeking Alpha and other blogs, Ackman was deeply, deeply in debt and on the losing side of his reckless HLF short position.  To wit, last fall, Ackman caved in and covered on his $1 billion $$$$ RECKLESS HLF POS.

But wait, didn’t Ackman say he was staying short on  HLF ’til the end of days’?? Is the end of days here already?  No. Now you know what Ackman is called “A Modern Day PT Barnum” Except that is a terrible insult to PT BARNUM. Of course just hours before covering Ackman was   still sending out Memo’s and appearing on CNBC saying that “I am still bearish on HLF. Herbalife is a pyramid scheme  and their stock is going to zero.” Yada, yada, yada, Yeah right.  Then hours later, he covers. A typical Ackman trick. Try to sucker naive shorts to come in, get longs to sell so he can cover at a lower price.

When Ackman says sell, that means buy. When Ackman speaks, don’t listen to him.

Bill Ackman. His paid shills and some naive shorts actually tried to get masses to believe that Herbalife is a “Pyramid Scheme” and that  HLF stock was gong to zero!!!!!! Intelligent people know better.  LOL!!! HAHAHAHA

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BETTING ON ZERO BOMBED AS PREDICTED

Last March, 2017,  the Ackman goons or perhaps goon, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven were once again wetting themselves (himself) over the release of ‘Betting on Zero’ Many of us predited it would bomb. Irons predicted that would be, and once again imitating his idol Bill Ackman,  a “Herbalife Deathblow” (hahahahahaha) and would educated the unknowing public as to the terrible travesties of this horrible company called Herbalife which must be eradicated from the face of the earth! LOL!!!!

Chris Irons aka quoththeraven aka ‘little billy ackman is not smiling these days.  His crazed “FAKE NEWS”  anti-Herbalife stories on Seeking Alpha never put a dent in Herbalife or HLF stock. It only feed the shorts with false hope thinking that Irons was some sort of serious investor with his one man company quoththeraven Research (LOL) (What research???)  while enabling the jerk to earns $35 a story and a penny per click on the Seeking Alpha Fake News thread.

 

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And what happened to’Betting On Zero’ which Irons was so exuberent about? He said that  ‘Betting on Zero would make the masses aware of the “scheme” that is Herbalife! (LOL)  The masses already had enough of Ackman’s bullshit and were sick ot it and many among the masses like Herbalife and their products.  Contrary to Ackman and his shills, there are millions and millions of happy saitisfied Herbalife customers right in the USA not to mention worldwide. ‘Betting on Zero? What happened?  It bombed like everything else Ackman  did and Irons hyped. 

Is this what Chris Irons (quoththeraven) really looks like??

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Of course, as usual, Irons assumes he knows something that nobody else does and also incorrectly assumed that the general public was in the dark about Herbalife and not aware of Ackman’s Fairytale, reckless HLF short play and lies about Herbalife.

Whatever happened to “Crime Busters” 

And what of the clown who called himself “Crimebusters” and claimed he never lost a legal battle, was saying that Herbalife would be shut down for sure and he should know because “I am never wrong and never lose”.  He said “Herbalife is a scam and must be eradicated” Oh strong words. Looks like he was eradicated.  What ever happened to this guy?  This nut? This whackjob? He has been MIA for over a year.  Now perhaps we know why he lays claim that he never loses, he quits when he knows he can’t win and disappears so therefore doesn’t call it as a loss. Perhaps, but, he never wins either.

 

I did see a homeless guy who matched “CrimeBusters” description holding up a sign saying, “Will bash Herbalife and other MLMs for food and money.”  Could it be????

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‘Betting on Zero’ was dropped from the few theaters it was showing in. And now, in case you missed it, ‘Betting on Zero’ is now available on netflix. But for how long and who cares? Pretty soon Ackman will be paying people to watch it. Yeah, it is that bad.

Quoththeraven (Chris Irons) tried to make everyone think that the general public was not aware of Ackman’s short play and attack on Herbalife. He actually tried to convince people that only investors knew this and ‘Betting On Zero’  would educate the masses. Of course the rest of knew that the general public was not only very much aware of this farce created by Ackman, but also were sick of it. And why would anyone pay money to go see a Ackman paid  for informercial masking itself as a “documentary” when it was filled with the same crap they saw for free on tv and on the internet? No wonder it bombed as I and so many others predicted.

Meanwhile back on Wall Street, things are still looking very bleak for Billy boy Ackman. Despite his relentless attacks since 2012 and especially after November, 2017, HLF showed a minor selloff. Based on the way the Ackman goons inaccurately painted the picture, we would have expected a $20 drop at least on HLF. Or as quoththeraven predicted “buy puts HLF going down to $30s by November”  Never  happened.

The fact is, investors have lost faith in Ackman. His investors have been redeeming for quite some time and were still redeeming this week. Pershing Sq assets have been cut in more half from more than $20 billion to now under $9 billion and still dropping.

To be true, Ackman has a long history of misteps and bad investments. His investors are tired of investing with him and losing money.   In fact, some have called Billy Ackman “The dumbest investor on Wall Street.” That is putting it mildly.

http://www.teapartynation.com/bill-ackman-the-dumbest-investor-on-wall-street/

And for more info on Billy  Ackman………..

http://www.therealbillackman.com

Bill Ackman’s new nickname could be “SLASHER”

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Entry into Pershing Square funds is not cheap. There is a huge capital investment, nosebleed fees, high commission, huge back end fees if and when you get smart and redeem and when you do get smart and say you want to redeem,  Ackman’s snake oil salesmen will do everything possible to prevent you from getting your hands on your own money!

Why are so many Pershing Sq investors still redeeming and so few new investors buying in? Lost faith in Bill Ackman. It’s as simple as that. Too many mistakes. Too many bad investments. Too much hype. In fact, too many blatant lies.

HINT: This is why new investors should not be buying into this fund and all the more reason why current Pershing Sq investors should redeem and get out a.s.a.p.  You could make more on a inexpensive mutual  fund or cost effective ETF. Why invest with Ackman? You shouldn’t.

And if you are in the fund, you should sell. Redeem. Dump it. Better to get out with less money than lose it all. Betting on Ackman’s investment expertise is a recipe for disaster.

Better to bet on a blindfolded monkey throwing darts than on Ackman’s ability to pick winning stocks.

 

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An old axiom in the the markets is “Never try to catch a falling knife.” No where is this more accurate than with Pershing Sq in which investment returns have fallen sharply over the last 3 years and still dropping. I predict that 2018 will be Ackman’s Pershing Sq. worst year yet. And I have accurately predicted the same over the last 3 years. My winning streak is intact.

In fact, it is now more apparent than ever that Ackman is pulling his hair out trying to save Pershing Sq and attempt to prevent it from becoming Gotham Partners II.

Notice how Ackman is now  going back to 15 year returns. Why? Because over 15 years his funds do show a profit. Big problem though. The investments in those early years 10-15 years ago have burned out. The big question all Pershing Sq investors have now is;

What have you done for us recently Ackman?” 

Answer is Lose $$$$$$.

A new motto is:

Lose Money Now – Ask Ackman How!

And how true.

We also now know that Ackman has sold off a lot of his investments. Most of which he was bragging about not long ago which went sour. If in fact Ackman ever did really have any magic, obviously that magic is now gone.

Most feel that Ackman never had any real magic or great strategies, he was just plain lucky. Like the proverbial blindfolded monkey.  He is no Buffet. My 12 yr old gets better returns in her proxy account.

If you have been a investor in Pershing Sq  and mirroring Ackman’s trades, you have seen double digits losses over the last three years just as I and others  predicted back in 2014. I said Perhsing Sq would see another big loss in 2017 and they did and now I see Pershing Sq as showing another major loss in 2018.

Those of us who have been in the game even prior to the Ackman-Herbalife saga, know very well about Ackman and his many mistakes. Yes he has had a few hits, perhaps one big hit. But so many misses. I honestly don’t know any other hedge fund manager who has been more wrong more often than Ackman.

Several months ago, Ackman was bragging about some “Mystery” investment that he invested in and is excited about.  He wouldn’t say what it is which I believe is a red flag suggesting that this is just a smoke screen to try to slow down the massive redemptions he is getting at Pershing Sq.

There was no mystery investment. It was all a BIG HOAX.

However, even if Ackman did  have a investment that has grown by 20%, how much   does that affect his fund overall? It may bring it to a 2%-3% return.  I repeat, Ackman’s fund at Pershing Sq has been down double  digits 3 years in a row. So at best, a 3% return in 2017 if that happens will leave Pershing Sq investors and others who follow Ackman’s reckless trades with a 3 year loss of  about-37%. I don’t know of any other hedge  fund or other manager who has done anywhere near this poorly.

Who wants to settle for 2% returns especially with such a huge up front investment and incredible inflated fees, commissions and other fees? And Ackman tries to play the nice guy. The good guy. The knight on a white horse coming to rescue those poor suckers who bought into Herbalife’s “pyramid” scheme.

If you ask me, Ackman is the one running a scheme. What he does and is doing makes pyramid schemes, of which Herbalife is not one,  look legitimate. I think it’s time the SEC looks into Ackman. Does a audit. Check returns and any profits with investors. Contact all of the Pershing Sq investors who redeemed i.e. dumped their worthless Pershing Sq fund investments and moved on. Let’s see how many victims we have over there. Should be interesting. And perhaps the SEC may want to go back in time and research what really happened with Gotham Partners and how many investors were robbed on that deal.

AND……….As Herbalife continues on it’s growth mode,  this will eat into Pershing Sq even more. Not to mention Ackman’s  other investments are not performing very well.

I warned many months ago, “Don’t put too much credence into Ackman’s claim that he has some super investment that has grown by 20%.”  Ackman has a poker face and talks a lot. There is a reason why he has been called “A modern day version of PT Barnum” It is all show and drama. Look at his track record. Yuck!

Ackman also maintains a bearish attitude towards Herbalife no matter how wrong he always turns out to be.  I am certain that he will maintain a long term short position on HLF even when it takes Pershing Square to 0 and becomes Gotham Partners II.

Interesting too is that the latest on Ackman is that he doesn’t even want to discuss Herbalife anymore. CHA CHING!!!!

What happened to the bravado? That cocky attitude? Many of us warned that Ackman was totally clueless about Herbalife. He was using old, debunked lies about Herbalife and in some cases where there were Herbalife Dist engaged in wrong doing, those dist were terminated pronto. However, Ackman never mentioned this or that those dist. went against Herbalife’s rules.

Pershing Sq had nearly $20 billion in assets a year ago. Now it is down under $9 billion and declining fast. More and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming daily. And few new investors are buying into this horrible fund and for good reason. It is expensive, has nose bleed fees and commission and has a horrible, absolutely horrible return. Most of all, look who manages it. Not an enviable record. And who wants to pay so much to lose $$$? You don’t need Ackman for this.  In fact, novice investors would do much better to invest on their own and generally massively outperform Ackman. My 12 yr old  does better with her proxy account.

Carl Icahn gave Ackman some good advice months ago……..

Carl Icahn, despite the negative attacks against him from smaller billionaire with a rapidly declining net worth Billy Ackman, tried to give Billy boy some good advice months ago.  He said that Ackman had gotten too emotional over the HLF short play and was trying to win a bet against Herbalife that was impossible He said that Ackman had “lost perspective” and indeed he has. And now obviously Pershing Sq is paying for Ackmans ineptness.

We all know that Ackman was responsible for taking Gotham Partners down. The once hedge fund office is now a dress factory. Ackman takes miscalculated risks and loses way too often.  And he loses B-I-G Hence, so many of his Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares and washing their hands of Ackman. Who can blame them?

Just a few months ago, Pershing Sq took a huge hit at the expence of Ackmans foolishness and bad investment judgement with a $4 billion+ loss on VRX. And all this time Ackman was telling his sheep to hold on. He had carefully researched this company. The stock would bounce back.  Or so he said. Ackman doubled down by buying more shares as the stock dipped incurring even more losses. Finally selling when $VRX hit $10 for once again a $4 BILLION +LOSS. Ouch! Bad move. Bad judgement.  But it wasn’t his first and won’t be his last.

But does Ackman really know what he is doing in investments? Doesn’t look like it.

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Do you remember when VRX used to trade @ $33.51 just a few months ago and Ackman was still so bullish on it? Ackman bought VRX at $270 and rode it all the way down to $10 before finally selling.  Does this sound like good judgement to you?

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For more on this wacko, go to this website……….

http://www.therealbillackman.com

Today,  Herbalife (HLF) is up again. Make that three days in row. Ackman and his shills are wrong again. I don’t care if they hold on to their reckless short HLF positions. Hey, it’s their money not mine. I bet their phones are ringing from brokers with Margin Calls. 

In other news, TESLA is also up today. Didn’t Seeking Alpha with their FAKE NEWS STORIES  tell us to sell that? And what did I say? Hold on right? So once again, irregardless of Herbalife and HLF stock, who is right and who is wrong as usual,  the FAKE NEWS on Seeking Alpha which is why we call it FAKE NEWS!. qtr research needs to move out of Chris Irons bedroom, out of stock market speculation and  Chris Irons needs to move into something else, like maybe mowing grass? Perhaps he can do that without screwing up.

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December, 2012 will go down as the worst time in Bill Ackmans life and will indelibly be etched in time as the time when Bill Ackman made the worst mistake of  his life—–Lying about Herbalife.

Every investor/trader shorts stocks from time to time. Nothing wrong with that.  Typically, savvy, sophisticated, educated and successful traders will research the companies and   stocks before shorting them, they will use technical analysis and other tools to determine whether a stock is ripe for shorting. Heretofore, no one has ever shorted a stock that successfully beat earnings 22 quarters in a row,  with a company that was and still is in a huge growth mode and used old, outmoded and debunked crap to create short position and then call it “A illegal PYRAMID SCHEME and their stock is headed to Zero” as Billy boy Ackman did to Herbalife at that now infamous informercial he mislabeled a presentation back in December 2012.

Billy boy Ackman is not what he claims to be. He has been apropiately named “The Worst of Wall Street”  Just ask anyone who follows his trades or anyone of the many who have redeemed shares and walked away from Pershing Sq. because of Ackman’s very bad investment decisions. 

http://www.therealbillackman.com

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*FACT-Ackman’s thesis was all wrong and still is. Where is Sean Dineen these days????

*FACT-Pershing Sq was having a bad year in 2012 and Ackman need to work some magic   so squew the numbers. So why not go after Herbalife? So he thought.

*FACT-Ackman did open a huge $1 billion plus short POS on HLF and allegedly bought December, 2012 puts.

*FACT-The Sohn Conference Informercial was conducted just days before options expiration

*FACT-Ackman would not allow anyone from Herbalife to be in attendance at this Sohn Conference Informercial to offer a point/counter point discussion. What was Ackman afraid of? Obviously the truth and he wanted nothing to ruin the big gains he was expecting from those puts and short POS before the end of December to sugar coat prospectuses to lure in more victims into his Pershing Sq fund scheme(Or is that Perishing??)

Ackman sure created an incredible Fairytale with his FAKE NEWS story on Herbalife and he continues with that FAKE NEWS story to this day. Big problem though: Ackman has been taking a licking on this insane, crazy, reckless, winless HLF short bet.

Despite the hype and drama, bringing in his buddies which included 2 AGs and a US senator, numerous appearances on CNBC, conferences and memos, blogs etc. after nearly 5 years Ackman is deeper in the  hole with his HLF short than ever before and barely hanging on by his fingernails

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To date Ackman has lost an estimated $7 million on this HLF short bet. To make any profit on this at all, HLF has to drop to $30. To make a huge profit, it has to drop to under $20. After the Sohn Conference Informercial, HLF did drop as low as $24 but rallied back up. And then when Carl Icahn came on the scene, it really rallied and went as high as $84 in January 2014.

Through it all, Ackman has been appearing on CNBC, sending out memos, apearing all over, frantically trying to find someone who will pretend to be a Herbalife “victim” still says “Herbalife is a pyramid scheme and the stock is going to zero” and everytime he says that, HLF goes higher, higher and higher. While HERBALIFE continues to grow constantly adding more and more and more preferred customers and distributors.

Ackman would be better off trying to shovel sand off of a beach. Same result!

Clearly Ackmans fairytale, and that is all it ever was has turned into a nightmare for this failing billionaire. More and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares, fewer new accounts are being opened.  Ackman had no earthly clue what he was doing when he started this nor did he care that he as putting tens of thousands of HLF longs at risk,  4.5 million Herbalife distributors, 8,000 Herbalife employees without a job or a business opportunity that they  worked long and hard at and potentially leaving millions of happy customers all over the world without a product. Why? All because of Greed & Ego.

While Ackman bashes Herbalife, authentic billionaires who truly understand network marketing,  business and want to help people succeed, fully support it. 

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I value the word of these wise and very successful people over shyster, scammer Billy Boy Ackman. 

Regarding that short bet, Yeah I know Ackman claimed he was going to donate any profits to charity. C’mon.

Who invests $1 billion to short a stock and then passes it on to charity? This was all smoke and mirrors.  His eyes were bleeding green and he was chopping at the lips thinking of the billions he could make if this scam  against Herbalife really worked.  And he would look like a do goody to the uneducated and uninformed.  He would look like the “good guy” when he reality, he is quite the opposite.

Thank God it didn’t work.

Herbalife posted first quarter earnings on Thursday that were a blowout substantially exceeding analysts expectations and putting to rest the concerns that the FTC determination would seriously impact Herbalife going forward.

AS many of us have been stating for some time, there would be no serious impact. Herbalife has always been focused on retail sales along with recruiting. Sure there were some shysters who did not follow company guidelines and broke FTC rules by front end loading and selling worthless tools like stale leads, web sites and trying to create telemarketing heroes out of people with no previous sales experience and offered very little if any valuable assistance. Once reported, these people were terminated and actually went with other companies.

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Interesting is that when these violaters were reported  and terminated by Herbalife, the Ackman shills were all over the old Yahoo message boards as well as other personal blogs, websites stating “Top leaders leaving Herbalife” This started back in December 2012. They never mentioned that these “Top Leaders” were terminated by Herbalife. Surprised? I wasn’t

The same garbage, not surprisingly started to appear in the Seeking Alpha Fake stories.  Back then, there were as many as 5 anti-HLF “stories” appearing daily in SA. I challenged the authors to  retract their comments and indicate that these “top reps” were actually terminated. Of course they never did. It would take away from their drama and lies. Eventually though the truth came out. Especially when Carl Icahn came on the scene in January 2013.

It should be noted that these anti-HLF people (probably one person with a bunch of aliases) were predicting HLF would hit zero by March, 2013. Hello. It is May, 2017. And we are a long way from zero.

They also constantly reiterated Ackman’s insane line and made it their own:

“HLF is going to 0 and I have a strong sell on it.”

Oh really? What qualifies him to set a target price or a rating on it? Answer: Nothing!

Chris Irons aka Birdbrain quoththeraven

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The big mouth in all of this tried to make it appear as though he was a big roller. Some big time analyst or celebrity. Using an alias, he even tried to suggest he was Hugh Heffner! LOL!  In fact, by his own admission he later, about 2 years later with help from Herbie admitted he was in fact “just a little guy” Yes indeed but he never revealed just how little. That was a few years ago.  Now he is trying to play the “big roller” role again and wants some people to think he really knows something. Clue: He doesn’t

Of course I am referring to Chris Irons aka quoththeraven.  I know you already knew it.  And as a another walk down memory lane, who was it that revealed his real first name was Chris and was about to reveal his whole name until he did it himself, embarrassed by my letting the cat out of the bag? Of course, I was the one. And keep in mind, prior to all of this, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven tried to convince everyone that he would never, never, never,never, ever release him real name because he was getting so much hate mail and death threats. LOL—–The drama continued. So much bull. But once I let people know that I was about to reveal his real name, the so called “Hate mail” and Deaththreats” were no longer an issue.

Chris Irons challenges John Hempton to a debate. Really Chris????

Almost too funny, I got a memo from someone who still subscribes to Chris Irons aka quoththeravens twitter feed that he wants to challenge John  Hempton, anytime, anywhere. While I can’t speak for John Hempton, I would love to see this happen. Is there any doubt that John Hempton would mop the floor with qtr??? Have you ever read any of quoththeravens (Chris Irons) stuff? He is not a very good communicator. Communication is not his forte at all. And he is never accurate. Hempton is. And Hempton understands investing. Chris Irons does not. He is always so wrong. My $$$$ are on Hempton, that is if Chris Irons actually accepts. But rest easy, he won’t. Just more of the drama.

I also received several messages from people sending me tweets that quoththeraven posted on his quoththeraven twitter page. I’ve been blocked and thankful for that just as I am continually deleting all of quoththeravens fake aliases from my twitter account. Interesting that this guy is so obsessed with following me.

Apparently on Thursday and Friday Irons came out like a raving lunatic. He couldn’t believe the earnings results nor how the street reacted and HLF soared. Was like Ackman’s ill fated “Herbalife death blow” in July 2014 (hahahahahaha) Some deathbow. Ackman looked like the fool he is as did Irons and whatever other followers Ackman has and HLF shorts. They were in shock. No response for about a week. Then Irons tried to spin it as he always does and the market laughed as they always do.

And BTW, 3 years ago Matt Stewart who many people think is just another alias for Chris Irons challenged Lenny Clements to a debate. Lenny accepted. But where was Matt?!!!!!! Lenny is a recognized authority on MLM. Stewart? He has an opinion and an agenda and is always wrong.

Matt also suggested that the Michigan AG and then all AGs across America would “pile on” Herbalife after two of Ackman’s buddies, both AGs initated action.  That died very quickly and no other AGs did anything.

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Chris Irons aka quoththeravens reaction to HLF earnings and market on Thursday nite and Friday. 

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Getting back to last Thursday, in Chris Irons world, earnings were bad. The sky was falling for Herbalife. Vindication for Ackman. Billy boy was right, yada, yada, yada. Funny the street didn’t see it that way as HLF SOARED in AH trading and continued to run up on Friday.  Chris Irons aka quoththeraven is obviously living in his own fantasy world and no doubt he thinks the rest of the world is oblivious to the truth and we, as he puts it so often, “just don’t get it” LOL!!!!!!!!

Moving on to 2nd quarter earnings

All we heard from the Anti-HLF’ers since HLF’s 4th qtr earnings was that the FTC decision would show up in Q1 earnings. Well we just had them, Herbalife did extremely well and predictably, the new argument from the Herbalife bashers is that it will show up in 2nd qtr earnings. In case these guys missed it, Herbalife had a strong outlook for 2017 and spring is always a good time for Herbalife sales. People want to lose weight for summer beachtime and warm weather season.  Not to mention their diversified product line of wellness, skin care and sports  supplements. Look for 2nd qtr earnings to also exceed.

And of course when Herbalife exceeds earnings in Q2, then the bashers will say wait until Q3, Q4, (yawn)

Some people suggest that there is a final test coming to see which side is  right, Ackman or Herbalife. Look at the last 4 1/2 years and look at 1st qtr earnings for 2017. Look at the reaction from the markets. I think it is obvious which side is right and pardon my grammar, but it ain’t Ackman. It is over for Ackman.

Carl Icahn has tightened his grip on Billy boy. Choking the life out of him. And Icahn is expected to be building on his position.  Good bye Billy.  You’re just a crybaby in the school yard. Always were, always will be.

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Then some say that the bulls are winning for now.  For now????  The bulls have been winning this since January 2013!!!!!!!!!!

Some keep bringing out the FTC fine from last June. “That Herbalife paid a $200 million fine in July to end the FTC’s investigation into whether the multi-level marketer of diet shakes was a pyramid scheme, as Ackman had accused.”  Or that is how they say it.

Herbalife DID NOT pay the fine to end the FTCs investigation. FTC does not negotiate with companies that break the law. It was certain Herbalife distributors who broke the law and thus Herbalife ended up paying a fine for their improper actions. As already mentioned above, these distributors were terminated by Herbalife and their actions were never condoned by Herbalife and clearly against Herbalife policy.  And most of that fine went back to Herbalife via fmr Herbalife distributors who returned to the company at the end of qtr 4 and beginning of q1 and used that money to buy more Herbalife products. Where were the co called “Herbalife victims” Only in Ackmans imagination.

In fact, Herbalife agreed to distinguish between distributors who sell the product and preferred members who merely want to use the products. Ackman, who knows little or nothing about network marketing or even how to pick stocks as evidenced by his huge losses on HLF short not to mention VRX recently and JCP, BORDERS, TARGET etc.  scoffed at this idea and still claims that he sees HLF going to zero. But of course he does. His reputation is at stake and he has already lost approximately $700 million on this very reckless and poorly research HLF short play. And by the way, didn’t he also say he was bullish on VRX right up until he pulled the plug and sold it AT A $4 BILLION LOSS??? Ackman’s word is not his bond. His word is meaningless. He will say he is staying with his HLF short POS and then pull the plg and cover seconds later.

Herbalife reported 18,652 new members in North America in the first quarter, that number does not include the preferred members, a contingent that is several times larger than the distributors who actually sell the product to others. (Since Herbalife began separating these two categories in mid-January, 80% of new U.S. recruits signed up as preferred members, the company said.)

Previously, the Herbalife bashers claim was that Herbalife did not have any customers. Now Herbalife is proving they do. And now the Ackmanaholics Herbalife bashers look at this as bad news for Herbalife??????????? I don’t think so. It proves what Herbalife has been saying all along. That there are real customers. And I am certain that is the way the street saw it too based on the huge rally on Thursday AH and on Friday.

The total combined number of new U.S. distributors and preferred members is just slightly below what it was last year: In the first quarter of 2016, Herbalife disclosed 83,276 new North American recruits, of which about 80,200 were in the U.S. This year, the number was 78,900 for the same period, a decline of 1.7%, according to the company.

But, take into consideration the constant attacks by Ackman and his shills. Contrary to what Ackman and his shills say, this has leaked out to the general public and has affected Herbalife to some degree. Mainstreet is very much aware of this and not because of that Ackman informercial mislabeled a documentary.  However, in spite of Ackman’s unsubstantiated remarks, Herbalife still continued to grow massively outpacing other network marketing-MLM companies in North America.

And of course, you have to take into account the current state of the economy and that USA had a presidential election in 2016. These things always create turmoil in the the markets.  ALL told, Herbalife’s numbers were very impressive if not extraordinary.

Even before the quarter ended, there were signs that Ackman and other Herbalife detractors had underestimated the number of consumers amid the company’s distributor ranks. This is nothing new. In 2012, Ackman also underestimated and misjudged when herbalife reps would renew. It was a huge miscalulation.

When the FTC sent settlement checks earlier this year to supposed Herbalife “victims” who had supposedly never made any money as distributors, many of those who are now preferred members received them. Fans of the diet and nutrition products who never intended to resell them, some of those people said they planned to spend the settlement money on more Herbalife shakes and protein bars. Put another way, that FTC fine is being redirected  back to Herbalife and Herbalife did not pay a fine to end the FTC investigation. The FTC does not operate that way. If Herbalife was guilty of any wrong doing, they would have been shut down. They weren’t. Case closed. Except in the minds of Ackman and his nutty follower(s)

Some will remember that Herbalife faced a major challenge back in 1985. Prior to the media attack then, Herbalife’s sales were over $512 million annually and were up to over $90 million a month in January, 1985. After the media attack, Herbalife sales dropped all the way down to only $10 million annually.  This occurred in the 1980s. We all know Herbalife came roaring back. Also, I think that challenge was far more potent that what little weenie Ackman has offered. Herbalife is very resilent and has always proved that they are following the laws. Legal and ethical.

The FTC was yanked into this by Ackman via his buddy Sen. Markey.  What was the result? Ackman lost again and we haven’t heard from Sen. Markey. I wonder if he is still close friends with ACKMAN after this embarrassment???? And how about those two AGs who were such good buddies with Billy boy, where are they? Also been very quiet.

Sen. Markey may be eating ice cream cones, but he has had very little to do with his (former??) good buddy Billy boy Ackman

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As already mentioned, that FTC settlement to so called Herbalife “victims” has brought more former distributors and preferred members back to Herbalife and they are using that money to buy more Herbalife products.  So the settlement is actually being redirected back to Herbalife. Interesting. Or at least much of it.

Also, Herbalife as we all know has their WinBack program in place which has been very successful bringing back more former distributors and preferred members. And of course  Herbalife reps are hard at work building their businesses. I see the button “Lose Weight Now – Ask Me How” everywhere and Herbalife reps inviting people to their nutrition clubs. Speaking of which, I love the nutrition clubs. They are very powerful.

Another thing, spring is always the best time of the year for Herbalife as people are focusing on losing weight for summer and warm weather season. Expect sales to SOAR. And there are ads all over for Herbalife. Not to mention that Herblaife’s product line goes beyond just weight loss to sports supplements, wellness products, skin care and more.  All of these things are positives and I expect Herbalife to have a OUTSTANDING 2nd quarter.

The squeeze on Ackman tightened up considerably last Thursday. Expect to get even tighter.  MOASS is here.

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I also enjoy playing with quoththeraven aka Chris Irons, Ackman, his braindead shills and the stupid and ignorant HLF shorts.  Every single time they open their mouths via the internet with outrageus, ridiculous “what ifs”  and “maybes” Doom & Gloom predictions, yet they are always wrong and I am always right. I look forward to doing it again next quarter and watching them be oh sooo wrong yet again. My guess is that Ackman will be gone by then. But this guy will continue. I guess he really needs that $35 an article and a penny per click from the garbage he writes on SA.

Hey Chris, so there is no hard feelings, I have  some friends in Philly who may be able to help you. They are looking for a gardener and someone to mow their lawn. Probably will pay better than writing garbage on Seeking alpha and more ethical than promoting Pump & Dump pennystock junk. Of course, this is assuming you really do live in Philly and are fit enough to    run a lawn mower and do  garndening work.  Do you really live in Philly? Perhaps that is total bull too.

Ackmanaholics and shills are really funny.  No matter  how many times they are wrong, which is everytime, they still maintain they are right and think they can manipulate t he market with their b.s.  It never works! They are like the guy who hits himself on the head with a hammer. He should only have to do that one time to realize, “Ouch, that hurts.”

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Herbalife had great earnings as I and so many other experienced investors indicated long before earnings was announced. I made it obvious that I was long a week before and was expecting great earnings. I increased my POS on HLF, bought calls, sold puts and bought more shares. And do you know how many companies would love to have the numbers that Herbalife produced on Thursday? Do you know how many MLM companies would love to acquire 83,276 new distributors just in North America in 1 yr and without the noise and distraction of that lunatic Ackman???

Clearly, what Herbalife did on Thursday was nothing short of mind boggling.

BTW, here are some of my other holdings. Obviously, I can’t put an image of my account on here.  I know how to invest successfully. Unlike Ackman and Chris Irons. BTW, did you know that even though Chris Irons along with his idol Ackman, makes wise cracks about Herbalife reps, calls them “get rich quick money hungry scam artists” Do you know how he makes his living? He is a PUMPnDUMP pennsystock promoter.

And interesting too, in another tweet that I received made by Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, he indicates he wants the name calling stopped but then proceeds to name call Michael O. Johnson and new Herbalife CEO. Well, well. Those of us who ever read his stuff have come to expect this.  No surprise.

Hey Chris, my friends in Philly really are looking for someone to mow their grass and be their gardener. At least this would allow you to make an honest living, for a change.  And no doubt more $$$ than what you make now. IF you are healthy enough to do it that is.stock-photo-cute-man-mowing-lawn-in-the-backyard-of-his-house-191098076

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Will Gambler Bill Ackman and Perishing Pershing Square fold in 2018????????

Over 5 years  ago I predicted that Bill Ackman would fail in his reckless HLF short. Long before that I warned associates of mine to steer clear of Ackman. That he was/is no financial   genius.

Four years ago, I accurately predicted that Pershing Sq would have their worst year ever. I was attacked viciously by the one Ackman supporter with 8,000 aliases.

“You don’t know what you are talking about!”

“You’re an IDIOT!”

And much worse were the statements made against me. BUT…by the end of the year what was the result? Pershing Sq had their worst year ever!

In November of that year, I predicted that there would be no comeback for Ackman’s Pershing Sq and that in fact it would end up in the red and in addition, their next year would be even worse.

Once again, I was called all sorts of names and the Ackman supporter told me that I was “clueless” But what was the result? Ackman’s Pershing Sq recorded an even worse year far surpassing losses from the year before. No bounce. Just deeper lows.

Not to rest on my laurels, in November of that year I once again predicted that the coming year would be the worse ever for Ackman’s Pershing Sq. Once again the Ackman shill attacked me and said that “Pershing Sq was ripe for a dead cat bounce. Ackman had re-aligned his portfolio and had now made a very successful and certain to be profitable investment in Valeant. ENT!

We all know what happened to Valeant and the rest of Ackman’s portfolio didn’t do that well either. As a reminder, Ackman lost an astounding $4 BILLION on Valeant. Even though he claimed he was “long & strong on VRX” and continued to double down investing more and more as the stock dropped and went on CNBC touting VRX as a “strong buy” and “great turn around” Ackman   dumped all his shares only hours after telling investors they should buy but at a $4 BILLION $$$ LOSS.   Ouch!! And Herbalife which Ackman continued to attack and claimed is a “pyramid scheme” and their stock “was going to 0” continued to climb creating even more losses to Ackman’s Pershing Sq. 

Directly contrary to Ackman, I predicted that Herbalife would continue to grow and the stock would continue to rise. And it did. And I also accurately said that “Herbalife IS NOT a pyramid scheme”

For years I have been predicting that after their investigation the FTC would find nothing wrong  with Herbalife.  Yes Herbalife had to pay a fine due to unscrupulous tactics by a few of their distributors who were terminated as soon as Herbalife uncovered their offenses,  BUT THE FTC DID NOT  SHUT HERBALIFE DOWN! ONCE AGAIN AGAIN HE WAS DEAD WRONG. I AND OTHER HLF SUPPORTERS WERE 1OO% DEAD RIGHT.

Sometime later, Ackman  who once said that he was short on HLF  ’til the ends of the earth’ closed his short POS with HLF replacing it with a much smaller put POS which is at this point about to expire worthless. Ackman just can’t win.

Two years ago, Ackman funded a informercial that he was trying to pass off as a documentary called ‘Betting on Zero’  His #1 shill  tried in vain to promote this informercial. I knew it would fail. So did everyone else. Except for quoththeraven aka Chris Irons.

Speaking of Chris Irons aka quoththeraven aka ‘little billy ackman’, it was one year ago that he advised us all to invest in GNC stock which was trading @ $10.50 at that time. He stated, “GNC is an ez pop up to $14 for sure.”  Check the price of GNC folks. It tanked     right after this and dropped down to the $2 range. So now you can see what I go after him so much? His advice is a joke and he can seriously damage anyone who believes what he says.

As strong as I felt that ‘Betting On Zero” would fail, those feelings were magnified when I realized that Chris Irons aka quoth the raven (or is that quoth the moron??) was the primary person promoting it. Really? That’s the best that Ackman can do is get a 2nd rate penny stock promoter to be the spokesperson for the documentary? (informercial)

Carl Icahm “The Master of The Universe” and a real investor sucked the life out of Ackman and taught the “crybaby in a schoolyard” a thing or two about how real investors operate. 

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As we all now know, Betting on Zero failed badly as expected. More of Ackman’s investors money wasted.

So you get the point.

I have made several calls regarding Ackman and directly opposite to Ackman and his shill and I have been right EVERY TIME.  Meanwhile, Ackman and his shills have been wrong EVERY TIME!

So now, my newest prediction is for Ackman’s Pershing (or is that Perishing) Sq to fold it’s tents. And for good reason. Investors have been as I have been accurately reporting for years, redeeming shares enmasse with so few new investors coming in.

Ackman’s investment strategy, not even counting Herbalife and Valeant, has done poorly.

His fees have always been inordinately high, much higher than the industry average. He charges a mega high super inflated investment fee to enter into his Pershing Sq investments and their are huge back end surrender fees if you get smart and want your money back and try to take it out.

His “investment advisors” are used car salesmen hustling you and ripping you off of money by putting you into a horrible investment product.

Mark my words, Ackman’s  Pershing Sq will be going down, probably in 2018. Don’t forget, Ackman was the head of Gotham Partners. That one shut down and last I heard the building it once occupied is now a dress factory.

What will the building that Pershing Sq is located in become? A chinese restaurant?

 

Bill Ackman has not been called “The worst of Wall Street for nothing” He really is the worst in the industry.

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I normally don’t lavish with joy when hard times come upon someone, but when that someone is Bill Ackman, it feels   so good.

Over the last  five PLUS years, I and so many other experienced investors who follow the markets and knew of the reputation of the infamous Bill Ackman predicted that he would fall and that he was oh so wrong about Herbalife not to mention so many other investments, including the ones he was bullish on. Does VRX comes to mind? For those who have been around for years, JCP also comes to mind. Billy lost over $500 million on that deal.

For the last four years, I was the first to predict that Pershing Sq was failing and that was against so many attacks by Ackman’s #1 and possibly only real fan Chris Irons aka quoththeraven aka ‘little billy ackman.

Here is the latest on what is going on in Billy Ackman’s life. That is ‘billionaire Billy’ not the imitation ‘little billy ackman aka quoththeraven real name Chris Irons.

 

Bill Ackman is cutting almost a fifth of his staff and looking to lower his public profile as he seeks to turn around Pershing Square (OTCPK:PSHZF) after three straight years of losses, sources told Reuters.

He’ll also spend more time investing and stop being the firm’s No. 1 marketer.

Previously one of Wall Street’s most vocal investors, Ackman recently suffered big losses on Valeant Pharmaceuticals (NYSE:VRX) and Herbalife (NYSE:HLF) and lost a proxy fight with Automatic Data Processing (NASDAQ:ADP).

Cutting staff. Downsizing.  Stop being the firms #1 marketer.  That is a start.

A few days ago, Ackman announced he was slashing fees for new investors. Again, this is something I was harping about for a very long time. The fees he charges are like loan shark fees and his investments don’t pan out.

As so many of us have stated previously, Ackman is a gambler not an investor. He has been EXTREMELY lucky in a  few plays in the past. He is not brilliant. Not even close to the caliber of Warren Buffet or Carl Icahn, in fact, my 12 yr old daughter does better with her proxy investments than Ackman does. Fancy that. Ackman gets beat by a 12 yr old!

And one final time. Ackman was never even close to being right about Herbalife. His thesis was based on old, outdated, debunked crap from the 1980s and after. Ackman was not doing this as  a public service, he was gambling. He really believed in his own hyped up image and that people would buy his words over truth. He made a $1 billion bet hoping to extrapulate that to $45 billion and perhaps make a small donation to a charity or perhaps a illegal charity ala the Clintons.

Many of us predicted that Ackman would fail. And he has. He even lost his marriage a year ago. Not to mention the billions he has lost. Over $4 billion on VRX alone. And another $1 billion+ on Herbalife.

Let this be a lesson to everyone. Just because someone has a Harvard degree and a 8 figure net worth (if he is still in the 8 figure net worth category these days??) does not mean he is right or telling the truth.

Pershing Sq had assets in excess of $20 billion when Ackman started his reckless attacks on Herbalife. Currently assets are under $9 billion and still falling.  Clearly, this was a very bad move by Ackman which we predicted back in 2012.

I almost feel sorry for the shorts  who were suckered in by Ackman. Almost. When greed overcomes logic, you get what you deserve.

Bill Ackman is crashing just as I and so many others predicted over 5 years ago!!!

I normally don’t lavish with joy when hard times come upon someone, but when that someone is Bill Ackman, it feels   so good.

Over the last  five PLUS years, I and so many other experienced investors who follow the markets and knew of the reputation of the infamous Bill Ackman predicted that he would fall and that he was oh so wrong about Herbalife not to mention so many other investments, including the ones he was bullish on. Does VRX comes to mind? For those who have been around for years, JCP also comes to mind. Billy lost over $500 million on that deal.

For the last four years, I was the first to predict that Pershing Sq was failing and that was against so many attacks by Ackman’s #1 and possibly only real fan Chris Irons aka quoththeraven aka ‘little billy ackman.

Here is the latest on what is going on in Billy Ackman’s life. That is ‘billionaire Billy’ not the imitation ‘little billy ackman aka quoththeraven real name Chris Irons.

 

Bill Ackman is cutting almost a fifth of his staff and looking to lower his public profile as he seeks to turn around Pershing Square (OTCPK:PSHZF) after three straight years of losses, sources told Reuters.

He’ll also spend more time investing and stop being the firm’s No. 1 marketer.

Previously one of Wall Street’s most vocal investors, Ackman recently suffered big losses on Valeant Pharmaceuticals (NYSE:VRX) and Herbalife (NYSE:HLF) and lost a proxy fight with Automatic Data Processing (NASDAQ:ADP).

Cutting staff. Downsizing.  Stop being the firms #1 marketer.  That is a start.

A few days ago, Ackman announced he was slashing fees for new investors. Again, this is something I was harping about for a very long time. The fees he charges are like loan shark fees and his investments don’t pan out.

As so many of us have stated previously, Ackman is a gambler not an investor. He has been EXTREMELY lucky in a  few plays in the past. He is not brilliant. Not even close to the caliber of Warren Buffet or Carl Icahn, in fact, my 12 yr old daughter does better with her proxy investments than Ackman does. Fancy that. Ackman gets beat by a 12 yr old!

And one final time. Ackman was never even close to being right about Herbalife. His thesis was based on old, outdated, debunked crap from the 1980s and after. Ackman was not doing this as  a public service, he was gambling. He really believed in his own hyped up image and that people would buy his words over truth. He made a $1 billion bet hoping to extrapulate that to $45 billion and perhaps make a small donation to a charity or perhaps a illegal charity ala the Clintons.

Many of us predicted that Ackman would fail. And he has. He even lost his marriage a year ago. Not to mention the billions he has lost. Over $4 billion on VRX alone. And another $1 billion+ on Herbalife.

Let this be a lesson to everyone. Just because someone has a Harvard degree and a 8 figure net worth (if he is still in the 8 figure net worth category these days??) does not mean he is right or telling the truth.

Pershing Sq had assets in excess of $20 billion when Ackman started his reckless attacks on Herbalife. Currently assets are under $9 billion and still falling.  Clearly, this was a very bad move by Ackman which we predicted back in 2012.

I almost feel sorry for the shorts  who were suckered in by Ackman. Almost. When greed overcomes logic, you get what you deserve.

 

 

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Ackman has been DEAD WRONG about Herbalife for 5 years. And he is still DEAD WRONG!!!

Poor PT Barnum must be rolling in his grave seeing how the 22nd century imitator PT Ackman is trying so hard to emulate him with his “Greatest Show on Earth” “Herbalife Deathblow” (hahahahaha) “Betting on Zero” (a glorified informercial full of half truths and totally biased in favor of Ackman with no real research   conducted. And Ackman’s appearances on CNBC.

Hey Ackman, next time you appear on CNBC why not show up in a clown suit. It would  be appropriate. You are a real clown for sure.

 

Billy Ackman in uniform.

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I am sure that the Ackmanaholics and ‘little billy ackmans’ were wetting themselves  earlier today seeing  their hero on CNBC acting with so much bravado. Looking so confident and pretending he was in total control of his still very reckless HLF short bet while everything Ack was saying was total b.s and he was so full of crap. Ackman is a master at this. He lies so well that even he believes himself.  And aside from his braindead followers, no one else believes him and they all see through the lies.

There are two things going on here.

  1. Ackman’s ego. He can’t accept that he was wrong and lost.
  2. The upcoming hopeful deal with ADP. Ack is trying to look like a winner.

I am certain that ADP will see through this fraud as easily as I and so many other have.

 

Christine Richards with her small Orion “Research” (who are the researchers???)  bombs badly.

The infamous Christine Richards, who sounds an awful lot like Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, had an impromptu bash-HLF presentation yesterday which like all of her prior presentations had a sparse audience and bombed terribly. When are these people  going o realize that this is DEAD NEWS? People are tired of hearing about Ackman’s greatest flop—HLF SHORT BET and the informercial mislabeled a documentary, ‘betting on zero’.  It’s been beaten to death for almost 5 years now.   Enough.  It hasn’t worked in 5 years. Won’t work now either. You would be better of trying to find Elvis  working at a car wash. But then again, maybe  you are already attempting that.

The Zombies in pajamas are back!

Not surprisingly,  what Michael O. Johnson used to call “Knuckleheads in bathrobes” now better referred to as “Zombies in Pajamas”  are back writing their fake stories on the FAKE NEWS MEDIUM better known as Seeking Alpha.  As usual, 99.9999999% crap which only attracts the HLF bashers who eat this crap up and are stupid enough to short more shares hoping it is true….this time.

Query? How much more money do these clowns have to lose before they finally realize that what they are reading is all FAKE NEWS?

 

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Summer is over. The SA authors no longer have jobs mowing lawns, back to writing bullsh’t on SA.

 

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With summer over, those Ackmanaholics-Zombies in Pajamas are starving. Their previous stories on Seeking Alpha met with continued diminished hits, but they are back writing again getting that $30 per story and a penny a hit. They are way overpaid owing to the quality of what they write. Nonetheless, inbetween raking leaves, they are back writing their bullcrap stories on Seeking Alpha.

This guy in the photo below looks a lot like Ackman. Almost as grey. And I bet he eats a lot of omlettes too. That is, if he has the $$$ to buy them

 

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HLF shorts-Bashers fallen on hard times.  

Remember that guy who posted all over the internet as “Crime Busters” the guy who claimed so much wealth and was always right. Never lost in going after “crooked companies” that needed to “be eradicated from the face of the earth” or so he claimed. Haven’t heard from him in years.  Perhaps if you spot him on the street you can give him some change for a hotdog.

Some HLF shorts have lost from $80,000 on up listening to Ackman and believing that he was a “smart guy” and knew what he was doing.  Hint: Smart guys don’t short Wall Street darling stocks that beat earnings 22 quarters in a row and use 30 year old debunked FAKE NEWS to present a case. Nor do they use $1 billion bets and blow over $100,000,000 lobbying.

No matter how much money HLF shorts have lost, it pails compared to Ackman’s losses just on HLF alone.

 

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I hope ADP is smart enough to shrug off Ackman. If they don’t, I will put in a massive short POS on ADP as will most of the market.  Those of us who have followed Ackman for over a decade know that we are always better off going inverse to Ackman.

“When Ackman goes short, BUY”

“When Ackman goes long, SELL if you own, short it to the ‘ends of the earth”

Been working for years and always well.

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When Billy boy Ackman first announced his reckless and poorly researched HLF Short bet. Called Herbalife a “Pyramid scheme” said he HLF stock, took a billion $$$ bet on HLF and announced the stock was going to zero, so many of us laughed at him and predicted failure for the ego driven head of Pershing Sq (or is that Perishing Sq??)

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We laughed then and we are really in stitches now.  It is almost too funny that this pseudo-ego driven maniac made wild accusations against Herbalife, assured all of his brain dead followers that he knew what he was doing, said he was short Herbalife “till the ends of the earth” Well I guess the ends of the earth was last Wednesday. That was when Ackman covered on his HLF short POS north of $75 after shorting @ $35 for a estimated loss of $40 per share and a massive loss for the ego maniac.

As a reminder, for the real dope on the dope Lyin Billy Ackman, go to   www.therealbillackman.com

 

Now Ackman said he has changed his position and is in puts. He tried that before and they expired worthless. They will again. Just as assuredly as he lost his $1 billion short bet, he will lose on his smaller put bet as well. Remember, this is the same guy who lost $4 BILLION on VRX LAST WINTER. Do you really think he is a great investor? Nope.

And while Herbalife earnings reported on  Thursday were a little disappointing and the stock sold off by about 3%, it came rallying back.  So while the Ackmanaholics were oh so giddy Thursday evening, the same Ackmanaholics were remorseful on Thursday evening and Friday. Nothing new here. These guys don’t know a stock from a rock.

Where is Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, Matt Stewart (if he really is not just an alias for Chris Irons) and all the other seeking alpha authors who were betting on Ackman and so sure that Herbalife was a pyramid scheme? They or he seem awfully quiet.  Much like they were after Ackman’s “Herbalife Death Blow” (hahahahaha) in 2014 or the terrible bomb of “Betting on Zero” (Ackman’s informercial that died so quickly.

 

So certain. So sure and so wrong. Just like Ackman.

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Ackman assured us again and again that he was holding onto his HLF short bet ’till the ends of the earth’ As far as I know, the end for the earth is not here. The end is over for Ackman though.

Oh yes, I know that he has a put position capped to a maximum of 3% of Pershing Squares assets. Pershing Squares assets have dropped from over $20 billion to under $10 billion. So at best, Ackman has a maximum cap of  $3 million, if he maxes out.  That is a long way from  his original bet of $1 billion. What happened to the Ackman confidence and bravado? Look like chicken little now.

And remember, $3 million is the max. My guess is that his real investment in HLF puts is much less than that.

Still there are a lot of shorts out there. This is exciting for we longs. With Ackman out and earnings past, look for these shorts to begin covering enmasse.  The excitement and drama in shorting HLF is now gone. As they cover, HLF stock will rise. And with Ackman gone, the negative PR that we have experienced for nearly 5 years now will also stop. This will accelerate sales for Herbalife and thus HLF earnings in the future.

Now is the time to begin adding more shares.  Buy on the dip. Don’t get sidetracked by negative and erroneus stories on seeking alpha and other FAKE NEWS outlets pushing doom and gloom for Herbalife and HLF stock. Haven’t we heard enough of this over the last 4 3/4 years? If it had any traction, why didn’t it work?

And what of Ackman? What will he do now? We know that he is trying to get seats on ADP. God  help ADP if he succeeds. He will do to ADP what he did to JCP. So many people lost jobs thanks to Ackman. JCP still hasn’t recovered.

Ackman hyped VRX buying shares @ $270  and then sold @ $10. Brilliant move.

He shorted HLF  @ $35   and covered north of $75. Brilliant move.

He was so wrong with Borders, Target, Chipottle and so many more. He bankrupted Gotham Partners.  He has been wrong more times than he has been right.

He is the worst hedge fund manager. No one has been more wrong more often than Ackman.  He is a self serving, egotistical clown. He has not been called “a modern day PT Barnum” for nothing. He is all show and no go.

 

ackman the worst of wall street

ADP, I hope you are listening.

HLF longs,   I hope you are listening too. I have been on this since December, 2012. I have never been wrong once.  Ackman and shills? They haven’t been right even once.

Ackman may need to find another line of work. I can suggest something for him…..

 

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We told you that Ackman would fail with his reckless HLF short bet and he has!!!!!

When Billy boy Ackman first announced his reckless and poorly researched HLF Short bet. Called Herbalife a “Pyramid scheme” said he HLF stock, took a billion $$$ bet on HLF and announced the stock was going to zero, so many of us laughed at him and predicted failure for the ego driven head of Pershing Sq (or is that Perishing Sq??)

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We laughed then and we are really in stitches now.  It is almost too funny that this pseudo-ego driven maniac made wild accusations against Herbalife, assured all of his brain dead followers that he knew what he was doing, said he was short Herbalife “till the ends of the earth” Well I guess the ends of the earth was last Wednesday. That was when Ackman covered on his HLF short POS north of $75 after shorting @ $35 for a estimated loss of $40 per share and a massive loss for the ego maniac.

As a reminder, for the real dope on the dope Lyin Billy Ackman, go to   www.therealbillackman.com

 

Now Ackman said he has changed his position and is in puts. He tried that before and they expired worthless. They will again. Just as assuredly as he lost his $1 billion short bet, he will lose on his smaller put bet as well. Remember, this is the same guy who lost $4 BILLION on VRX LAST WINTER. Do you really think he is a great investor? Nope.

And while Herbalife earnings reported on  Thursday were a little disappointing and the stock sold off by about 3%, it came rallying back.  So while the Ackmanaholics were oh so giddy Thursday evening, the same Ackmanaholics were remorseful on Thursday evening and Friday. Nothing new here. These guys don’t know a stock from a rock.

Where is Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, Matt Stewart (if he really is not just an alias for Chris Irons) and all the other seeking alpha authors who were betting on Ackman and so sure that Herbalife was a pyramid scheme? They or he seem awfully quiet.  Much like they were after Ackman’s “Herbalife Death Blow” (hahahahaha) in 2014 or the terrible bomb of “Betting on Zero” (Ackman’s informercial that died so quickly.

 

So certain. So sure and so wrong. Just like Ackman.

12279113_1070978669588105_5080892329987942338_n

Ackman assured us again and again that he was holding onto his HLF short bet ’till the ends of the earth’ As far as I know, the end for the earth is not here. The end is over for Ackman though.

Oh yes, I know that he has a put position capped to a maximum of 3% of Pershing Squares assets. Pershing Squares assets have dropped from over $20 billion to under $10 billion. So at best, Ackman has a maximum cap of  $3 million, if he maxes out.  That is a long way from  his original bet of $1 billion. What happened to the Ackman confidence and bravado? Look like chicken little now.

And remember, $3 million is the max. My guess is that his real investment in HLF puts is much less than that.

Still there are a lot of shorts out there. This is exciting for we longs. With Ackman out and earnings past, look for these shorts to begin covering enmasse.  The excitement and drama in shorting HLF is now gone. As they cover, HLF stock will rise. And with Ackman gone, the negative PR that we have experienced for nearly 5 years now will also stop. This will accelerate sales for Herbalife and thus HLF earnings in the future.

Now is the time to begin adding more shares.  Buy on the dip. Don’t get sidetracked by negative and erroneus stories on seeking alpha and other FAKE NEWS outlets pushing doom and gloom for Herbalife and HLF stock. Haven’t we heard enough of this over the last 4 3/4 years? If it had any traction, why didn’t it work?

And what of Ackman? What will he do now? We know that he is trying to get seats on ADP. God  help ADP if he succeeds. He will do to ADP what he did to JCP. So many people lost jobs thanks to Ackman. JCP still hasn’t recovered.

Ackman hyped VRX buying shares @ $270  and then sold @ $10. Brilliant move.

He shorted HLF  @ $35   and covered north of $75. Brilliant move.

He was so wrong with Borders, Target, Chipottle and so many more. He bankrupted Gotham Partners.  He has been wrong more times than he has been right.

He is the worst hedge fund manager. No one has been more wrong more often than Ackman.  He is a self serving, egotistical clown. He has not been called “a modern day PT Barnum” for nothing. He is all show and no go.

 

ackman the worst of wall street

ADP, I hope you are listening.

HLF longs,   I hope you are listening too. I have been on this since December, 2012. I have never been wrong once.  Ackman and shills? They haven’t been right even once.

Ackman may need to find another line of work. I can suggest something for him…..

 

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