We told you that Ackman would fail with his reckless HLF short bet and he has!!!!!

When Billy boy Ackman first announced his reckless and poorly researched HLF Short bet. Called Herbalife a “Pyramid scheme” said he HLF stock, took a billion $$$ bet on HLF and announced the stock was going to zero, so many of us laughed at him and predicted failure for the ego driven head of Pershing Sq (or is that Perishing Sq??)

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We laughed then and we are really in stitches now.  It is almost too funny that this pseudo-ego driven maniac made wild accusations against Herbalife, assured all of his brain dead followers that he knew what he was doing, said he was short Herbalife “till the ends of the earth” Well I guess the ends of the earth was last Wednesday. That was when Ackman covered on his HLF short POS north of $75 after shorting @ $35 for a estimated loss of $40 per share and a massive loss for the ego maniac.

As a reminder, for the real dope on the dope Lyin Billy Ackman, go to   www.therealbillackman.com

 

Now Ackman said he has changed his position and is in puts. He tried that before and they expired worthless. They will again. Just as assuredly as he lost his $1 billion short bet, he will lose on his smaller put bet as well. Remember, this is the same guy who lost $4 BILLION on VRX LAST WINTER. Do you really think he is a great investor? Nope.

And while Herbalife earnings reported on  Thursday were a little disappointing and the stock sold off by about 3%, it came rallying back.  So while the Ackmanaholics were oh so giddy Thursday evening, the same Ackmanaholics were remorseful on Thursday evening and Friday. Nothing new here. These guys don’t know a stock from a rock.

Where is Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, Matt Stewart (if he really is not just an alias for Chris Irons) and all the other seeking alpha authors who were betting on Ackman and so sure that Herbalife was a pyramid scheme? They or he seem awfully quiet.  Much like they were after Ackman’s “Herbalife Death Blow” (hahahahaha) in 2014 or the terrible bomb of “Betting on Zero” (Ackman’s informercial that died so quickly.

 

So certain. So sure and so wrong. Just like Ackman.

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Ackman assured us again and again that he was holding onto his HLF short bet ’till the ends of the earth’ As far as I know, the end for the earth is not here. The end is over for Ackman though.

Oh yes, I know that he has a put position capped to a maximum of 3% of Pershing Squares assets. Pershing Squares assets have dropped from over $20 billion to under $10 billion. So at best, Ackman has a maximum cap of  $3 million, if he maxes out.  That is a long way from  his original bet of $1 billion. What happened to the Ackman confidence and bravado? Look like chicken little now.

And remember, $3 million is the max. My guess is that his real investment in HLF puts is much less than that.

Still there are a lot of shorts out there. This is exciting for we longs. With Ackman out and earnings past, look for these shorts to begin covering enmasse.  The excitement and drama in shorting HLF is now gone. As they cover, HLF stock will rise. And with Ackman gone, the negative PR that we have experienced for nearly 5 years now will also stop. This will accelerate sales for Herbalife and thus HLF earnings in the future.

Now is the time to begin adding more shares.  Buy on the dip. Don’t get sidetracked by negative and erroneus stories on seeking alpha and other FAKE NEWS outlets pushing doom and gloom for Herbalife and HLF stock. Haven’t we heard enough of this over the last 4 3/4 years? If it had any traction, why didn’t it work?

And what of Ackman? What will he do now? We know that he is trying to get seats on ADP. God  help ADP if he succeeds. He will do to ADP what he did to JCP. So many people lost jobs thanks to Ackman. JCP still hasn’t recovered.

Ackman hyped VRX buying shares @ $270  and then sold @ $10. Brilliant move.

He shorted HLF  @ $35   and covered north of $75. Brilliant move.

He was so wrong with Borders, Target, Chipottle and so many more. He bankrupted Gotham Partners.  He has been wrong more times than he has been right.

He is the worst hedge fund manager. No one has been more wrong more often than Ackman.  He is a self serving, egotistical clown. He has not been called “a modern day PT Barnum” for nothing. He is all show and no go.

 

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ADP, I hope you are listening.

HLF longs,   I hope you are listening too. I have been on this since December, 2012. I have never been wrong once.  Ackman and shills? They haven’t been right even once.

Ackman may need to find another line of work. I can suggest something for him…..

 

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How many more Pershing Sq investors redeemed shares this past week? Past month? Pershing Square headed to 0. Gotham Partners II

The lies about China and deliberate fraud by Ackmanaholics confusing illegal pyramid schemes vs legal MLM/NETWORK MARKETING companies has been exposed.

The totally biased and inaccurate reporting of Herbalife’s 2nd qtr earnings by the  Ackman cultists has also been exposed. Herbalife beat earnings and thousands of companies would love to have those numbers. 

Lies that Icahn is going to sell shares has also been exposed as a LIE…again!

Predictions that HLF would have a massive selloff and drop to the 30s were also once again totally false.  HLF has rebounded as it always does.

Meanwhile Ackman continues to make bad investments that go sour. How come everything he touches turns into dog poop?

 

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Betting on Zero officially bombed in June as we predicted. That was Ackman’s last hope

Fake stories on Seeking Alpha have been on the increase and have also bombed badly.

Pro wrestling is almost as fake as the fake stories on seeking alpha

HLF Bulls still in control.

The real question now is how many Pershing Sq investors are still foolishly hanging on to Pershing Sq funds? So many have lost faith in Ackman. In fact, I really think that Pershing Sq investors, how many still remain, should look to have Bill Ackman removed   and replace him with a fund manager who has better judgement. Ackman obviously does not cut it.

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Why are so many Pershing Sq investors still redeeming and so few new investors buying in? Lost faith in Bill Ackman.

An old axiom in the the markets is “Never try to catch a falling knife.” No where is this more accurate than with Pershing Sq in which investment returns have fallen sharply over the last 2 years and still dropping.

In fact, it is now more apparent than ever that Ackman is pulling his hair out trying to save Pershing Sq and attempt to prevent it from becoming Gotham Partners II.

Notice how Ackman is now  going back to 15 year returns. Why? Because over 15 years his funds do show a profit. Big problem though. The investments in those early years 10-15 years ago have burned out. The big question all Pershing Sq investors have now is;

What have you done for us recently Ackman?” 

Answer is Lose $$$$$$.

A new motto is:

Lose Money Now – Ask Ackman How!

And how true.

$4 billion + loss on VRX even though he was so bullish for so long and told bis investors he had carefully resarched the company.

$700 +million loss on HLF short Position with losses growing daily.

ADP has done nothing but drop since Ackman got involved.

Then add in JCP, TARGET, BORDERS, yawn………so many losses. Ackman has bad judgement. No, make that terrible judgement.  My 12 year old does better with his proxy account.

 

Ackman has a horrible investment record.

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Perhaps Carl Icahn can step in, pound some sense into Ackman and show him how to  get out of this insane, reckless HLF short play before he loses everything. And if Ackman won’t listen to Icahn, perhaps a freind or relative should in, that is if he has any friends and relatives left.

We also now know that Ackman has sold off a lot of his investments. Most of which he was bragging about not long ago which went sour. If in fact Ackman ever did really have any magic, obviously that magic is now gone.

Most feel that Ackman never had any real magic or great strategies, he was just plain lucky. Like the proverbial blindfolded monkey.  He is no Buffet. My 12 yr old gets better returns in his proxy account.

If you have been a investor in Pershing Sq  and mirroring Ackman’s trades, you have seen double digits losses over the last two years just as I and others  predicted back in 2014. I see Pershing Sq as showing another major loss in 2017.

Those of us who have been in the game even prior to the Ackman-Herbalife saga, know very well about Ackman and his many mistakes. Yes he has had a few hits, perhaps one big hit. But so many misses. I honestly don’t know any other hedge fund manager who has been more wrong more often than Ackman.

A week ago, Ackman was bragging about some “Mystery” investment that he invested in and is excited about.  He wouldn’t say what it is which I believe is a red flag suggesting that this is just a smoke screen to try to slow down the massive redemptions he is getting at Pershing Sq.

However, even if Ackman does  have a investment that has grown by 20%, how much   does that affect his fund overall? It may bring it to a 2%-3% return.  I repeat, Ackman’s fund at Pershing Sq has been down double  digits 2 years in a row. So at best, a 3% return in 2017 if that happens will leave Pershing Sq investors and others who follow Ackman’s reckless trades with a 3 year loss of  about-37%. I don’t know of any other hedge  fund or other manager who has done anywhere near this poorly.

AND……….As Herbalife continues on it’s growth mode,  this will eat into Pershing Sq even more. Not to mention Ackman’s  other investments are not performing very well.

Don’t put too much credence into Ackman’s claim that he has some super investment that has grown by 20%. Ackman has a poker face and talks a lot. There is a reason why he has been called “A modern day version of PT Barnum” It is all show and drama. Look at his track record. Yuck!

Ackman also maintains a bearish attitude towards Herbalife no matter how wrong he always turns out to be.  I am certain that he will maintain a long term short position on HLF even when it takes Pershing Square to 0 and becomes Gotham Partners II.

Pershing Sq had nearly $20 billion in assets a year ago. Now it is down under $10 billion and declining fast. More and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming daily. And few new investors are buying into this horrible fund and for good reason. It is expensive, has nose bleed fees and commission and has a horrible, absolutely horrible return. Most of all, look who manages it. Not an enviable record. And who wants to pay so much to lose $$$? You don’t need Ackman for this.  In fact, novice investors would do much better to invest on their own and generally massively outperform Ackman. My 12 yr old son does better with his proxy account.

Carl Icahn gave Ackman some good advice months ago……..

Carl Icahn, despite the negative attacks against him from smaller billionaire with a rapidly declining net worth Billy Ackman, tried to give Billy boy some good advice months ago.  He said that Ackman had gotten too emotional over the HLF short play and was trying to win a bet against Herbalife that was impossible He said that Ackman had “lost perspective” and indeed he has. And now obviously Pershing Sq is paying for Ackmans ineptness.

We all know that Ackman was responsible for taking Gotham Partners down. The once hedge fund office is now a dress factory. Ackman takes miscalculated risks and loses way too often.  And he loses B-I-G Hence, so many of his Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares and washing their hands of Ackman. Who can blame them?

Just a few months ago, Pershing Sq took a huge hit at the expence of Ackmans foolishness and bad investment judgement with a $4 billion+ loss on VRX. And all this time Ackman was telling his sheep to hold on. He had carefully researched this company. The stock would bounce back.  Or so he said. Ackman doubled down by buying more shares as the stock dipped incurring even more losses. Finally selling when $VRX hit $10 for once again a $4 BILLION +LOSS. Ouch! Bad move. Bad judgement.  But it wasn’t his first and won’t be his last.

But does Ackman really know what he is doing in investments? Doesn’t look like it.

Do you remember when VRX used to trade @ $33.51 just a few months ago and Ackman was still so bullish on it? Ackman bought VRX at $270 and rode it all the way down to $10 before finally selling.  Does this sound like good judgement to you?

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For more on this wacko, go to this website……….

http://www.therealbillackman.com

Today,  Herbalife (HLF) is up again. Make that three days in row. Ackman and his shills are wrong again. I don’t care if they hold on to their reckless short HLF positions. Hey, it’s their money not mine. I bet their phones are ringing from brokers with Margin Calls. 

In other news, TESLA is also up today. Didn’t Seeking Alpha with their FAKE NEWS STORIES  tell us to sell that last week? And what did I say? Hold on right? So once again, irregardless of Herbalife and HLF stock, who is right and who is wrong as usual,  the FAKE NEWS on Seeking Alpha which is why we call it FAKE NEWS!. qtr research needs to move out of Chris Irons bedroom, out of stock market speculation and  Chris Irons needs to move into something else, like maybe mowing grass? Perhaps he can do that without screwing up.

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December, 2012 will go down as the worst time in Bill Ackmans life and will indelibly be etched in time as the time when Bill Ackman made the worst mistake of  his life—–Lying about Herbalife.

Every investor/trader shorts stocks from time to time. Nothing wrong with that.  Typically, savvy, sophisticated, educated and successful traders will research the companies and   stocks before shorting them, they will use technical analysis and other tools to determine whether a stock is ripe for shorting. Heretofore, no one has ever shorted a stock that successfully beat earnings 22 quarters in a row,  with a company that was and still is in a huge growth mode and used old, outmoded and debunked crap to create short position and then call it “A illegal PYRAMID SCHEME and their stock is headed to Zero” as Billy boy Ackman did to Herbalife at that now infamous informercial he mislabeled a presentation back in December 2012.

Billy boy Ackman is not what he claims to be. He has been apropiately named “The Worst of Wall Street”  Just ask anyone who follows his trades or anyone of the many who have redeemed shares and walked away from Pershing Sq. because of Ackman’s very bad investment decisions. 

http://www.therealbillackman.com

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*FACT-Ackman’s thesis was all wrong and still is. Where is Sean Dineen these days????

*FACT-Pershing Sq was having a bad year in 2012 and Ackman need to work some magic   so squew the numbers. So why not go after Herbalife? So he thought.

*FACT-Ackman did open a huge $1 billion plus short POS on HLF and allegedly bought December, 2012 puts.

*FACT-The Sohn Conference Informercial was conducted just days before options expiration

*FACT-Ackman would not allow anyone from Herbalife to be in attendance at this Sohn Conference Informercial to offer a point/counter point discussion. What was Ackman afraid of? Obviously the truth and he wanted nothing to ruin the big gains he was expecting from those puts and short POS before the end of December to sugar coat prospectuses to lure in more victims into his Pershing Sq fund scheme(Or is that Perishing??)

Ackman sure created an incredible Fairytale with his FAKE NEWS story on Herbalife and he continues with that FAKE NEWS story to this day. Big problem though: Ackman has been taking a licking on this insane, crazy, reckless, winless HLF short bet.

Despite the hype and drama, bringing in his buddies which included 2 AGs and a US senator, numerous appearances on CNBC, conferences and memos, blogs etc. after nearly 5 years Ackman is deeper in the  hole with his HLF short than ever before and barely hanging on by his fingernails

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To date Ackman has lost an estimated $7 million on this HLF short bet. To make any profit on this at all, HLF has to drop to $30. To make a huge profit, it has to drop to under $20. After the Sohn Conference Informercial, HLF did drop as low as $24 but rallied back up. And then when Carl Icahn came on the scene, it really rallied and went as high as $84 in January 2014.

Through it all, Ackman has been appearing on CNBC, sending out memos, apearing all over, frantically trying to find someone who will pretend to be a Herbalife “victim” still says “Herbalife is a pyramid scheme and the stock is going to zero” and everytime he says that, HLF goes higher, higher and higher. While HERBALIFE continues to grow constantly adding more and more and more preferred customers and distributors.

Ackman would be better off trying to shovel sand off of a beach. Same result!

Clearly Ackmans fairytale, and that is all it ever was has turned into a nightmare for this failing billionaire. More and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares, fewer new accounts are being opened.  Ackman had no earthly clue what he was doing when he started this nor did he care that he as putting tens of thousands of HLF longs at risk,  4.5 million Herbalife distributors, 8,000 Herbalife employees without a job or a business opportunity that they  worked long and hard at and potentially leaving millions of happy customers all over the world without a product. Why? All because of Greed & Ego.

While Ackman bashes Herbalife, authentic billionaires who truly understand network marketing,  business and want to help people succeed, fully support it. 

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I value the word of these wise and very successful people over shyster, scammer Billy Boy Ackman. 

Regarding that short bet, Yeah I know Ackman claimed he was going to donate any profits to charity. C’mon.

Who invests $1 billion to short a stock and then passes it on to charity? This was all smoke and mirrors.  His eyes were bleeding green and he was chopping at the lips thinking of the billions he could make if this scam  against Herbalife really worked.  And he would look like a do goody to the uneducated and uninformed.  He would look like the “good guy” when he reality, he is quite the opposite.

Thank God it didn’t work.

Herbalife posted first quarter earnings on Thursday that were a blowout substantially exceeding analysts expectations and putting to rest the concerns that the FTC determination would seriously impact Herbalife going forward.

AS many of us have been stating for some time, there would be no serious impact. Herbalife has always been focused on retail sales along with recruiting. Sure there were some shysters who did not follow company guidelines and broke FTC rules by front end loading and selling worthless tools like stale leads, web sites and trying to create telemarketing heroes out of people with no previous sales experience and offered very little if any valuable assistance. Once reported, these people were terminated and actually went with other companies.

A walk down memory lane

Interesting is that when these violaters were reported  and terminated by Herbalife, the Ackman shills were all over the old Yahoo message boards as well as other personal blogs, websites stating “Top leaders leaving Herbalife” This started back in December 2012. They never mentioned that these “Top Leaders” were terminated by Herbalife. Surprised? I wasn’t

The same garbage, not surprisingly started to appear in the Seeking Alpha Fake stories.  Back then, there were as many as 5 anti-HLF “stories” appearing daily in SA. I challenged the authors to  retract their comments and indicate that these “top reps” were actually terminated. Of course they never did. It would take away from their drama and lies. Eventually though the truth came out. Especially when Carl Icahn came on the scene in January 2013.

It should be noted that these anti-HLF people (probably one person with a bunch of aliases) were predicting HLF would hit zero by March, 2013. Hello. It is May, 2017. And we are a long way from zero.

They also constantly reiterated Ackman’s insane line and made it their own:

“HLF is going to 0 and I have a strong sell on it.”

Oh really? What qualifies him to set a target price or a rating on it? Answer: Nothing!

Chris Irons aka Birdbrain quoththeraven

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The big mouth in all of this tried to make it appear as though he was a big roller. Some big time analyst or celebrity. Using an alias, he even tried to suggest he was Hugh Heffner! LOL!  In fact, by his own admission he later, about 2 years later with help from Herbie admitted he was in fact “just a little guy” Yes indeed but he never revealed just how little. That was a few years ago.  Now he is trying to play the “big roller” role again and wants some people to think he really knows something. Clue: He doesn’t

Of course I am referring to Chris Irons aka quoththeraven.  I know you already knew it.  And as a another walk down memory lane, who was it that revealed his real first name was Chris and was about to reveal his whole name until he did it himself, embarrassed by my letting the cat out of the bag? Of course, I was the one. And keep in mind, prior to all of this, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven tried to convince everyone that he would never, never, never,never, ever release him real name because he was getting so much hate mail and death threats. LOL—–The drama continued. So much bull. But once I let people know that I was about to reveal his real name, the so called “Hate mail” and Deaththreats” were no longer an issue.

Chris Irons challenges John Hempton to a debate. Really Chris????

Almost too funny, I got a memo from someone who still subscribes to Chris Irons aka quoththeravens twitter feed that he wants to challenge John  Hempton, anytime, anywhere. While I can’t speak for John Hempton, I would love to see this happen. Is there any doubt that John Hempton would mop the floor with qtr??? Have you ever read any of quoththeravens (Chris Irons) stuff? He is not a very good communicator. Communication is not his forte at all. And he is never accurate. Hempton is. And Hempton understands investing. Chris Irons does not. He is always so wrong. My $$$$ are on Hempton, that is if Chris Irons actually accepts. But rest easy, he won’t. Just more of the drama.

I also received several messages from people sending me tweets that quoththeraven posted on his quoththeraven twitter page. I’ve been blocked and thankful for that just as I am continually deleting all of quoththeravens fake aliases from my twitter account. Interesting that this guy is so obsessed with following me.

Apparently on Thursday and Friday Irons came out like a raving lunatic. He couldn’t believe the earnings results nor how the street reacted and HLF soared. Was like Ackman’s ill fated “Herbalife death blow” in July 2014 (hahahahahaha) Some deathbow. Ackman looked like the fool he is as did Irons and whatever other followers Ackman has and HLF shorts. They were in shock. No response for about a week. Then Irons tried to spin it as he always does and the market laughed as they always do.

And BTW, 3 years ago Matt Stewart who many people think is just another alias for Chris Irons challenged Lenny Clements to a debate. Lenny accepted. But where was Matt?!!!!!! Lenny is a recognized authority on MLM. Stewart? He has an opinion and an agenda and is always wrong.

Matt also suggested that the Michigan AG and then all AGs across America would “pile on” Herbalife after two of Ackman’s buddies, both AGs initated action.  That died very quickly and no other AGs did anything.

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Chris Irons aka quoththeravens reaction to HLF earnings and market on Thursday nite and Friday. 

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Getting back to last Thursday, in Chris Irons world, earnings were bad. The sky was falling for Herbalife. Vindication for Ackman. Billy boy was right, yada, yada, yada. Funny the street didn’t see it that way as HLF SOARED in AH trading and continued to run up on Friday.  Chris Irons aka quoththeraven is obviously living in his own fantasy world and no doubt he thinks the rest of the world is oblivious to the truth and we, as he puts it so often, “just don’t get it” LOL!!!!!!!!

Moving on to 2nd quarter earnings

All we heard from the Anti-HLF’ers since HLF’s 4th qtr earnings was that the FTC decision would show up in Q1 earnings. Well we just had them, Herbalife did extremely well and predictably, the new argument from the Herbalife bashers is that it will show up in 2nd qtr earnings. In case these guys missed it, Herbalife had a strong outlook for 2017 and spring is always a good time for Herbalife sales. People want to lose weight for summer beachtime and warm weather season.  Not to mention their diversified product line of wellness, skin care and sports  supplements. Look for 2nd qtr earnings to also exceed.

And of course when Herbalife exceeds earnings in Q2, then the bashers will say wait until Q3, Q4, (yawn)

Some people suggest that there is a final test coming to see which side is  right, Ackman or Herbalife. Look at the last 4 1/2 years and look at 1st qtr earnings for 2017. Look at the reaction from the markets. I think it is obvious which side is right and pardon my grammar, but it ain’t Ackman. It is over for Ackman.

Carl Icahn has tightened his grip on Billy boy. Choking the life out of him. And Icahn is expected to be building on his position.  Good bye Billy.  You’re just a crybaby in the school yard. Always were, always will be.

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Then some say that the bulls are winning for now.  For now????  The bulls have been winning this since January 2013!!!!!!!!!!

Some keep bringing out the FTC fine from last June. “That Herbalife paid a $200 million fine in July to end the FTC’s investigation into whether the multi-level marketer of diet shakes was a pyramid scheme, as Ackman had accused.”  Or that is how they say it.

Herbalife DID NOT pay the fine to end the FTCs investigation. FTC does not negotiate with companies that break the law. It was certain Herbalife distributors who broke the law and thus Herbalife ended up paying a fine for their improper actions. As already mentioned above, these distributors were terminated by Herbalife and their actions were never condoned by Herbalife and clearly against Herbalife policy.  And most of that fine went back to Herbalife via fmr Herbalife distributors who returned to the company at the end of qtr 4 and beginning of q1 and used that money to buy more Herbalife products. Where were the co called “Herbalife victims” Only in Ackmans imagination.

In fact, Herbalife agreed to distinguish between distributors who sell the product and preferred members who merely want to use the products. Ackman, who knows little or nothing about network marketing or even how to pick stocks as evidenced by his huge losses on HLF short not to mention VRX recently and JCP, BORDERS, TARGET etc.  scoffed at this idea and still claims that he sees HLF going to zero. But of course he does. His reputation is at stake and he has already lost approximately $700 million on this very reckless and poorly research HLF short play. And by the way, didn’t he also say he was bullish on VRX right up until he pulled the plug and sold it AT A $4 BILLION LOSS??? Ackman’s word is not his bond. His word is meaningless. He will say he is staying with his HLF short POS and then pull the plg and cover seconds later.

Herbalife reported 18,652 new members in North America in the first quarter, that number does not include the preferred members, a contingent that is several times larger than the distributors who actually sell the product to others. (Since Herbalife began separating these two categories in mid-January, 80% of new U.S. recruits signed up as preferred members, the company said.)

Previously, the Herbalife bashers claim was that Herbalife did not have any customers. Now Herbalife is proving they do. And now the Ackmanaholics Herbalife bashers look at this as bad news for Herbalife??????????? I don’t think so. It proves what Herbalife has been saying all along. That there are real customers. And I am certain that is the way the street saw it too based on the huge rally on Thursday AH and on Friday.

The total combined number of new U.S. distributors and preferred members is just slightly below what it was last year: In the first quarter of 2016, Herbalife disclosed 83,276 new North American recruits, of which about 80,200 were in the U.S. This year, the number was 78,900 for the same period, a decline of 1.7%, according to the company.

But, take into consideration the constant attacks by Ackman and his shills. Contrary to what Ackman and his shills say, this has leaked out to the general public and has affected Herbalife to some degree. Mainstreet is very much aware of this and not because of that Ackman informercial mislabeled a documentary.  However, in spite of Ackman’s unsubstantiated remarks, Herbalife still continued to grow massively outpacing other network marketing-MLM companies in North America.

And of course, you have to take into account the current state of the economy and that USA had a presidential election in 2016. These things always create turmoil in the the markets.  ALL told, Herbalife’s numbers were very impressive if not extraordinary.

Even before the quarter ended, there were signs that Ackman and other Herbalife detractors had underestimated the number of consumers amid the company’s distributor ranks. This is nothing new. In 2012, Ackman also underestimated and misjudged when herbalife reps would renew. It was a huge miscalulation.

When the FTC sent settlement checks earlier this year to supposed Herbalife “victims” who had supposedly never made any money as distributors, many of those who are now preferred members received them. Fans of the diet and nutrition products who never intended to resell them, some of those people said they planned to spend the settlement money on more Herbalife shakes and protein bars. Put another way, that FTC fine is being redirected  back to Herbalife and Herbalife did not pay a fine to end the FTC investigation. The FTC does not operate that way. If Herbalife was guilty of any wrong doing, they would have been shut down. They weren’t. Case closed. Except in the minds of Ackman and his nutty follower(s)

Some will remember that Herbalife faced a major challenge back in 1985. Prior to the media attack then, Herbalife’s sales were over $512 million annually and were up to over $90 million a month in January, 1985. After the media attack, Herbalife sales dropped all the way down to only $10 million annually.  This occurred in the 1980s. We all know Herbalife came roaring back. Also, I think that challenge was far more potent that what little weenie Ackman has offered. Herbalife is very resilent and has always proved that they are following the laws. Legal and ethical.

The FTC was yanked into this by Ackman via his buddy Sen. Markey.  What was the result? Ackman lost again and we haven’t heard from Sen. Markey. I wonder if he is still close friends with ACKMAN after this embarrassment???? And how about those two AGs who were such good buddies with Billy boy, where are they? Also been very quiet.

Sen. Markey may be eating ice cream cones, but he has had very little to do with his (former??) good buddy Billy boy Ackman

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As already mentioned, that FTC settlement to so called Herbalife “victims” has brought more former distributors and preferred members back to Herbalife and they are using that money to buy more Herbalife products.  So the settlement is actually being redirected back to Herbalife. Interesting. Or at least much of it.

Also, Herbalife as we all know has their WinBack program in place which has been very successful bringing back more former distributors and preferred members. And of course  Herbalife reps are hard at work building their businesses. I see the button “Lose Weight Now – Ask Me How” everywhere and Herbalife reps inviting people to their nutrition clubs. Speaking of which, I love the nutrition clubs. They are very powerful.

Another thing, spring is always the best time of the year for Herbalife as people are focusing on losing weight for summer and warm weather season. Expect sales to SOAR. And there are ads all over for Herbalife. Not to mention that Herblaife’s product line goes beyond just weight loss to sports supplements, wellness products, skin care and more.  All of these things are positives and I expect Herbalife to have a OUTSTANDING 2nd quarter.

The squeeze on Ackman tightened up considerably last Thursday. Expect to get even tighter.  MOASS is here.

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I also enjoy playing with quoththeraven aka Chris Irons, Ackman, his braindead shills and the stupid and ignorant HLF shorts.  Every single time they open their mouths via the internet with outrageus, ridiculous “what ifs”  and “maybes” Doom & Gloom predictions, yet they are always wrong and I am always right. I look forward to doing it again next quarter and watching them be oh sooo wrong yet again. My guess is that Ackman will be gone by then. But this guy will continue. I guess he really needs that $35 an article and a penny per click from the garbage he writes on SA.

Hey Chris, so there is no hard feelings, I have  some friends in Philly who may be able to help you. They are looking for a gardener and someone to mow their lawn. Probably will pay better than writing garbage on Seeking alpha and more ethical than promoting Pump & Dump pennystock junk. Of course, this is assuming you really do live in Philly and are fit enough to    run a lawn mower and do  garndening work.  Do you really live in Philly? Perhaps that is total bull too.

Ackmanaholics and shills are really funny.  No matter  how many times they are wrong, which is everytime, they still maintain they are right and think they can manipulate t he market with their b.s.  It never works! They are like the guy who hits himself on the head with a hammer. He should only have to do that one time to realize, “Ouch, that hurts.”

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Herbalife had great earnings as I and so many other experienced investors indicated long before earnings was announced. I made it obvious that I was long a week before and was expecting great earnings. I increased my POS on HLF, bought calls, sold puts and bought more shares. And do you know how many companies would love to have the numbers that Herbalife produced on Thursday? Do you know how many MLM companies would love to acquire 83,276 new distributors just in North America in 1 yr and without the noise and distraction of that lunatic Ackman???

Clearly, what Herbalife did on Thursday was nothing short of mind boggling.

BTW, here are some of my other holdings. Obviously, I can’t put an image of my account on here.  I know how to invest successfully. Unlike Ackman and Chris Irons. BTW, did you know that even though Chris Irons along with his idol Ackman, makes wise cracks about Herbalife reps, calls them “get rich quick money hungry scam artists” Do you know how he makes his living? He is a PUMPnDUMP pennsystock promoter.

And interesting too, in another tweet that I received made by Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, he indicates he wants the name calling stopped but then proceeds to name call Michael O. Johnson and new Herbalife CEO. Well, well. Those of us who ever read his stuff have come to expect this.  No surprise.

Hey Chris, my friends in Philly really are looking for someone to mow their grass and be their gardener. At least this would allow you to make an honest living, for a change.  And no doubt more $$$ than what you make now. IF you are healthy enough to do it that is.stock-photo-cute-man-mowing-lawn-in-the-backyard-of-his-house-191098076

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How Many More Pershing Square investors REDEEMED shares last week???

 

June 17, 2017

Betting on Zero has officially bombed as we predicted. That was Ackman’s last hope

Fake stories on Seeking Alpha have been on the increase and have also bombed badly.

HLF Bulls still in control.

The real question now is how many Pershing Sq investors are still foolishly hanging on to Pershing Sq funds? So many have lost faith in Ackman. In fact, I really think that Pershing Sq investors, how many still remain, should look to have Bill Ackman removed   and replace him with a fund manager who has better judgement. Ackman obviously does not cut it.

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Why are so many Pershing Sq investors still redeeming and so few new investors buying in? Lost faith in Bill Ackman.

An old axiom in the the markets is “Never try to catch a falling knife.” No where is this more accurate than with Pershing Sq in which investment returns have fallen sharply over the last 2 years and still dropping.

In fact, it is now more apparent than ever that Ackman is pulling his hair out trying to save Pershing Sq and attempt to prevent it from becoming Gotham Partners II.

Notice how Ackman is now  going back to 15 year returns. Why? Because over 15 years his funds do show a profit. Big problem though. The investments in those early years 10-15 years ago have burned out. The big question all Pershing Sq investors have now is;

What have you done for us recently Ackman?” 

Answer is Lose $$$$$$.

A new motto is:

Lose Money Now – Ask Ackman How!

And how true.

$4 billion + loss on VRX even though he was so bullish for so long and told bis investors he had carefully resarched the company.

$700 +million loss on HLF short Position with losses growing daily.

Then add in JCP, TARGET, BORDERS, yawn………so many losses. Ackman has bad judgement. No, make that terrible judgement.  My 12 year old does better with his proxy account.

Perhaps Carl Icahn can step in, pound some sense into Ackman and show him how to  get out of this insane, reckless HLF short play before he loses everything. And if Ackman won’t listen to Icahn, perhaps a freind or relative should in, that is if he has any friends and relatives left.

We also now know that Ackman has sold off a lot of his investments. Most of which he was bragging about not long ago which went sour. If in fact Ackman ever did really have any magic, obviously that magic is now gone.

Most feel that Ackman never had any real magic or great strategies, he was just plain lucky. Like the proverbial blindfolded monkey.  He is no Buffet. My 12 yr old gets better returns in his proxy account.

If you have been a investor in Pershing Sq  and mirroring Ackman’s trades, you have seen double digits losses over the last two years just as I and others  predicted back in 2014. I see Pershing Sq as showing another major loss in 2017.

Those of us who have been in the game even prior to the Ackman-Herbalife saga, know very well about Ackman and his many mistakes. Yes he has had a few hits, perhaps one big hit. But so many misses. I honestly don’t know any other hedge fund manager who has been more wrong more often than Ackman.

A week ago, Ackman was bragging about some “Mystery” investment that he invested in and is excited about.  He wouldn’t say what it is which I believe is a red flag suggesting that this is just a smoke screen to try to slow down the massive redemptions he is getting at Pershing Sq.

However, even if Ackman does  have a investment that has grown by 20%, how much   does that affect his fund overall? It may bring it to a 2%-3% return.  I repeat, Ackman’s fund at Pershing Sq has been down double  digits 2 years in a row. So at best, a 3% return in 2017 if that happens will leave Pershing Sq investors and others who follow Ackman’s reckless trades with a 3 year loss of  about-37%. I don’t know of any other hedge  fund or other manager who has done anywhere near this poorly.

AND……….As Herbalife continues on it’s growth mode,  this will eat into Pershing Sq even more. Not to mention Ackman’s  other investments are not performing very well.

Don’t put too much credence into Ackman’s claim that he has some super investment that has grown by 20%. Ackman has a poker face and talks a lot. There is a reason why he has been called “A modern day version of PT Barnum” It is all show and drama. Look at his track record. Yuck!

Ackman also maintains a bearish attitude towards Herbalife no matter how wrong he always turns out to be.  I am certain that he will maintain a long term short position on HLF even when it takes Pershing Square to 0 and becomes Gotham Partners II.

Pershing Sq had nearly $20 billion in assets a year ago. Now it is down under $10 billion and declining fast. More and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming daily. And few new investors are buying into this horrible fund and for good reason. It is expensive, has nose bleed fees and commission and has a horrible, absolutely horrible return. Most of all, look who manages it. Not an enviable record. And who wants to pay so much to lose $$$? You don’t need Ackman for this.  In fact, novice investors would do much better to invest on their own and generally massively outperform Ackman. My 12 yr old son does better with his proxy account.

Carl Icahn gave Ackman some good advice months ago……..

Carl Icahn, despite the negative attacks against him from smaller billionaire with a rapidly declining net worth Billy Ackman, tried to give Billy boy some good advice months ago.  He said that Ackman had gotten too emotional over the HLF short play and was trying to win a bet against Herbalife that was impossible He said that Ackman had “lost perspective” and indeed he has. And now obviously Pershing Sq is paying for Ackmans ineptness.

We all know that Ackman was responsible for taking Gotham Partners down. The once hedge fund office is now a dress factory. Ackman takes miscalculated risks and loses way too often.  And he loses B-I-G Hence, so many of his Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares and washing their hands of Ackman. Who can blame them?

Just a few months ago, Pershing Sq took a huge hit at the expence of Ackmans foolishness and bad investment judgement with a $4 billion+ loss on VRX. And all this time Ackman was telling his sheep to hold on. He had carefully researched this company. The stock would bounce back.  Or so he said. Ackman doubled down by buying more shares as the stock dipped incurring even more losses. Finally selling when $VRX hit $10 for once again a $4 BILLION +LOSS. Ouch! Bad move. Bad judgement.  But it wasn’t his first and won’t be his last.

But does Ackman really know what he is doing in investments? Doesn’t look like it.

Do you remember when VRX used to trade @ $33.51 just a few months ago and Ackman was still so bullish on it? Ackman bought VRX at $270 and rode it all the way down to $10 before finally selling.  Does this sound like good judgement to you?

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For more on this wacko, go to this website……….

http://www.therealbillackman.com

Today,  Herbalife (HLF) is up again. Make that three days in row. Ackman and his shills are wrong again. I don’t care if they hold on to their reckless short HLF positions. Hey, it’s their money not mine. I bet their phones are ringing from brokers with Margin Calls. 

In other news, TESLA is also up today. Didn’t Seeking Alpha with their FAKE NEWS STORIES  tell us to sell that last week? And what did I say? Hold on right? So once again, irregardless of Herbalife and HLF stock, who is right and who is wrong as usual,  the FAKE NEWS on Seeking Alpha which is why we call it FAKE NEWS!. qtr research needs to move out of Chris Irons bedroom, out of stock market speculation and  Chris Irons needs to move into something else, like maybe mowing grass? Perhaps he can do that without screwing up.

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December, 2012 will go down as the worst time in Bill Ackmans life and will indelibly be etched in time as the time when Bill Ackman made the worst mistake of  his life—–Lying about Herbalife.

Every investor/trader shorts stocks from time to time. Nothing wrong with that.  Typically, savvy, sophisticated, educated and successful traders will research the companies and   stocks before shorting them, they will use technical analysis and other tools to determine whether a stock is ripe for shorting. Heretofore, no one has ever shorted a stock that successfully beat earnings 22 quarters in a row,  with a company that was and still is in a huge growth mode and used old, outmoded and debunked crap to create short position and then call it “A illegal PYRAMID SCHEME and their stock is headed to Zero” as Billy boy Ackman did to Herbalife at that now infamous informercial he mislabeled a presentation back in December 2012.

Billy boy Ackman is not what he claims to be. He has been apropiately named “The Worst of Wall Street”  Just ask anyone who follows his trades or anyone of the many who have redeemed shares and walked away from Pershing Sq. because of Ackman’s very bad investment decisions. 

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*FACT-Ackman’s thesis was all wrong and still is. Where is Sean Dineen these days????

*FACT-Pershing Sq was having a bad year in 2012 and Ackman need to work some magic   so squew the numbers. So why not go after Herbalife? So he thought.

*FACT-Ackman did open a huge $1 billion plus short POS on HLF and allegedly bought December, 2012 puts.

*FACT-The Sohn Conference Informercial was conducted just days before options expiration

*FACT-Ackman would not allow anyone from Herbalife to be in attendance at this Sohn Conference Informercial to offer a point/counter point discussion. What was Ackman afraid of? Obviously the truth and he wanted nothing to ruin the big gains he was expecting from those puts and short POS before the end of December to sugar coat prospectuses to lure in more victims into his Pershing Sq fund scheme(Or is that Perishing??)

Ackman sure created an incredible Fairytale with his FAKE NEWS story on Herbalife and he continues with that FAKE NEWS story to this day. Big problem though: Ackman has been taking a licking on this insane, crazy, reckless, winless HLF short bet.

Despite the hype and drama, bringing in his buddies which included 2 AGs and a US senator, numerous appearances on CNBC, conferences and memos, blogs etc. after nearly 5 years Ackman is deeper in the  hole with his HLF short than ever before and barely hanging on by his fingernails

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To date Ackman has lost an estimated $7 million on this HLF short bet. To make any profit on this at all, HLF has to drop to $30. To make a huge profit, it has to drop to under $20. After the Sohn Conference Informercial, HLF did drop as low as $24 but rallied back up. And then when Carl Icahn came on the scene, it really rallied and went as high as $84 in January 2014.

Through it all, Ackman has been appearing on CNBC, sending out memos, apearing all over, frantically trying to find someone who will pretend to be a Herbalife “victim” still says “Herbalife is a pyramid scheme and the stock is going to zero” and everytime he says that, HLF goes higher, higher and higher. While HERBALIFE continues to grow constantly adding more and more and more preferred customers and distributors.

Ackman would be better off trying to shovel sand off of a beach. Same result!

Clearly Ackmans fairytale, and that is all it ever was has turned into a nightmare for this failing billionaire. More and more Pershing Sq investors are redeeming shares, fewer new accounts are being opened.  Ackman had no earthly clue what he was doing when he started this nor did he care that he as putting tens of thousands of HLF longs at risk,  4.5 million Herbalife distributors, 8,000 Herbalife employees without a job or a business opportunity that they  worked long and hard at and potentially leaving millions of happy customers all over the world without a product. Why? All because of Greed & Ego.

While Ackman bashes Herbalife, authentic billionaires who truly understand network marketing,  business and want to help people succeed, fully support it. 

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I value the word of these wise and very successful people over shyster, scammer Billy Boy Ackman. 

Regarding that short bet, Yeah I know Ackman claimed he was going to donate any profits to charity. C’mon.

Who invests $1 billion to short a stock and then passes it on to charity? This was all smoke and mirrors.  His eyes were bleeding green and he was chopping at the lips thinking of the billions he could make if this scam  against Herbalife really worked.  And he would look like a do goody to the uneducated and uninformed.  He would look like the “good guy” when he reality, he is quite the opposite.

Thank God it didn’t work.

Herbalife posted first quarter earnings on Thursday that were a blowout substantially exceeding analysts expectations and putting to rest the concerns that the FTC determination would seriously impact Herbalife going forward.

AS many of us have been stating for some time, there would be no serious impact. Herbalife has always been focused on retail sales along with recruiting. Sure there were some shysters who did not follow company guidelines and broke FTC rules by front end loading and selling worthless tools like stale leads, web sites and trying to create telemarketing heroes out of people with no previous sales experience and offered very little if any valuable assistance. Once reported, these people were terminated and actually went with other companies.

A walk down memory lane

Interesting is that when these violaters were reported  and terminated by Herbalife, the Ackman shills were all over the old Yahoo message boards as well as other personal blogs, websites stating “Top leaders leaving Herbalife” This started back in December 2012. They never mentioned that these “Top Leaders” were terminated by Herbalife. Surprised? I wasn’t

The same garbage, not surprisingly started to appear in the Seeking Alpha Fake stories.  Back then, there were as many as 5 anti-HLF “stories” appearing daily in SA. I challenged the authors to  retract their comments and indicate that these “top reps” were actually terminated. Of course they never did. It would take away from their drama and lies. Eventually though the truth came out. Especially when Carl Icahn came on the scene in January 2013.

It should be noted that these anti-HLF people (probably one person with a bunch of aliases) were predicting HLF would hit zero by March, 2013. Hello. It is May, 2017. And we are a long way from zero.

They also constantly reiterated Ackman’s insane line and made it their own:

“HLF is going to 0 and I have a strong sell on it.”

Oh really? What qualifies him to set a target price or a rating on it? Answer: Nothing!

Chris Irons aka Birdbrain quoththeraven

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The big mouth in all of this tried to make it appear as though he was a big roller. Some big time analyst or celebrity. Using an alias, he even tried to suggest he was Hugh Heffner! LOL!  In fact, by his own admission he later, about 2 years later with help from Herbie admitted he was in fact “just a little guy” Yes indeed but he never revealed just how little. That was a few years ago.  Now he is trying to play the “big roller” role again and wants some people to think he really knows something. Clue: He doesn’t

Of course I am referring to Chris Irons aka quoththeraven.  I know you already knew it.  And as a another walk down memory lane, who was it that revealed his real first name was Chris and was about to reveal his whole name until he did it himself, embarrassed by my letting the cat out of the bag? Of course, I was the one. And keep in mind, prior to all of this, Chris Irons aka quoththeraven tried to convince everyone that he would never, never, never,never, ever release him real name because he was getting so much hate mail and death threats. LOL—–The drama continued. So much bull. But once I let people know that I was about to reveal his real name, the so called “Hate mail” and Deaththreats” were no longer an issue.

Chris Irons challenges John Hempton to a debate. Really Chris????

Almost too funny, I got a memo from someone who still subscribes to Chris Irons aka quoththeravens twitter feed that he wants to challenge John  Hempton, anytime, anywhere. While I can’t speak for John Hempton, I would love to see this happen. Is there any doubt that John Hempton would mop the floor with qtr??? Have you ever read any of quoththeravens (Chris Irons) stuff? He is not a very good communicator. Communication is not his forte at all. And he is never accurate. Hempton is. And Hempton understands investing. Chris Irons does not. He is always so wrong. My $$$$ are on Hempton, that is if Chris Irons actually accepts. But rest easy, he won’t. Just more of the drama.

I also received several messages from people sending me tweets that quoththeraven posted on his quoththeraven twitter page. I’ve been blocked and thankful for that just as I am continually deleting all of quoththeravens fake aliases from my twitter account. Interesting that this guy is so obsessed with following me.

Apparently on Thursday and Friday Irons came out like a raving lunatic. He couldn’t believe the earnings results nor how the street reacted and HLF soared. Was like Ackman’s ill fated “Herbalife death blow” in July 2014 (hahahahahaha) Some deathbow. Ackman looked like the fool he is as did Irons and whatever other followers Ackman has and HLF shorts. They were in shock. No response for about a week. Then Irons tried to spin it as he always does and the market laughed as they always do.

And BTW, 3 years ago Matt Stewart who many people think is just another alias for Chris Irons challenged Lenny Clements to a debate. Lenny accepted. But where was Matt?!!!!!! Lenny is a recognized authority on MLM. Stewart? He has an opinion and an agenda and is always wrong.

Matt also suggested that the Michigan AG and then all AGs across America would “pile on” Herbalife after two of Ackman’s buddies, both AGs initated action.  That died very quickly and no other AGs did anything.

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Chris Irons aka quoththeravens reaction to HLF earnings and market on Thursday nite and Friday. 

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Getting back to last Thursday, in Chris Irons world, earnings were bad. The sky was falling for Herbalife. Vindication for Ackman. Billy boy was right, yada, yada, yada. Funny the street didn’t see it that way as HLF SOARED in AH trading and continued to run up on Friday.  Chris Irons aka quoththeraven is obviously living in his own fantasy world and no doubt he thinks the rest of the world is oblivious to the truth and we, as he puts it so often, “just don’t get it” LOL!!!!!!!!

Moving on to 2nd quarter earnings

All we heard from the Anti-HLF’ers since HLF’s 4th qtr earnings was that the FTC decision would show up in Q1 earnings. Well we just had them, Herbalife did extremely well and predictably, the new argument from the Herbalife bashers is that it will show up in 2nd qtr earnings. In case these guys missed it, Herbalife had a strong outlook for 2017 and spring is always a good time for Herbalife sales. People want to lose weight for summer beachtime and warm weather season.  Not to mention their diversified product line of wellness, skin care and sports  supplements. Look for 2nd qtr earnings to also exceed.

And of course when Herbalife exceeds earnings in Q2, then the bashers will say wait until Q3, Q4, (yawn)

Some people suggest that there is a final test coming to see which side is  right, Ackman or Herbalife. Look at the last 4 1/2 years and look at 1st qtr earnings for 2017. Look at the reaction from the markets. I think it is obvious which side is right and pardon my grammar, but it ain’t Ackman. It is over for Ackman.

Carl Icahn has tightened his grip on Billy boy. Choking the life out of him. And Icahn is expected to be building on his position.  Good bye Billy.  You’re just a crybaby in the school yard. Always were, always will be.

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Then some say that the bulls are winning for now.  For now????  The bulls have been winning this since January 2013!!!!!!!!!!

Some keep bringing out the FTC fine from last June. “That Herbalife paid a $200 million fine in July to end the FTC’s investigation into whether the multi-level marketer of diet shakes was a pyramid scheme, as Ackman had accused.”  Or that is how they say it.

Herbalife DID NOT pay the fine to end the FTCs investigation. FTC does not negotiate with companies that break the law. It was certain Herbalife distributors who broke the law and thus Herbalife ended up paying a fine for their improper actions. As already mentioned above, these distributors were terminated by Herbalife and their actions were never condoned by Herbalife and clearly against Herbalife policy.  And most of that fine went back to Herbalife via fmr Herbalife distributors who returned to the company at the end of qtr 4 and beginning of q1 and used that money to buy more Herbalife products. Where were the co called “Herbalife victims” Only in Ackmans imagination.

In fact, Herbalife agreed to distinguish between distributors who sell the product and preferred members who merely want to use the products. Ackman, who knows little or nothing about network marketing or even how to pick stocks as evidenced by his huge losses on HLF short not to mention VRX recently and JCP, BORDERS, TARGET etc.  scoffed at this idea and still claims that he sees HLF going to zero. But of course he does. His reputation is at stake and he has already lost approximately $700 million on this very reckless and poorly research HLF short play. And by the way, didn’t he also say he was bullish on VRX right up until he pulled the plug and sold it AT A $4 BILLION LOSS??? Ackman’s word is not his bond. His word is meaningless. He will say he is staying with his HLF short POS and then pull the plg and cover seconds later.

Herbalife reported 18,652 new members in North America in the first quarter, that number does not include the preferred members, a contingent that is several times larger than the distributors who actually sell the product to others. (Since Herbalife began separating these two categories in mid-January, 80% of new U.S. recruits signed up as preferred members, the company said.)

Previously, the Herbalife bashers claim was that Herbalife did not have any customers. Now Herbalife is proving they do. And now the Ackmanaholics Herbalife bashers look at this as bad news for Herbalife??????????? I don’t think so. It proves what Herbalife has been saying all along. That there are real customers. And I am certain that is the way the street saw it too based on the huge rally on Thursday AH and on Friday.

The total combined number of new U.S. distributors and preferred members is just slightly below what it was last year: In the first quarter of 2016, Herbalife disclosed 83,276 new North American recruits, of which about 80,200 were in the U.S. This year, the number was 78,900 for the same period, a decline of 1.7%, according to the company.

But, take into consideration the constant attacks by Ackman and his shills. Contrary to what Ackman and his shills say, this has leaked out to the general public and has affected Herbalife to some degree. Mainstreet is very much aware of this and not because of that Ackman informercial mislabeled a documentary.  However, in spite of Ackman’s unsubstantiated remarks, Herbalife still continued to grow massively outpacing other network marketing-MLM companies in North America.

And of course, you have to take into account the current state of the economy and that USA had a presidential election in 2016. These things always create turmoil in the the markets.  ALL told, Herbalife’s numbers were very impressive if not extraordinary.

Even before the quarter ended, there were signs that Ackman and other Herbalife detractors had underestimated the number of consumers amid the company’s distributor ranks. This is nothing new. In 2012, Ackman also underestimated and misjudged when herbalife reps would renew. It was a huge miscalulation.

When the FTC sent settlement checks earlier this year to supposed Herbalife “victims” who had supposedly never made any money as distributors, many of those who are now preferred members received them. Fans of the diet and nutrition products who never intended to resell them, some of those people said they planned to spend the settlement money on more Herbalife shakes and protein bars. Put another way, that FTC fine is being redirected  back to Herbalife and Herbalife did not pay a fine to end the FTC investigation. The FTC does not operate that way. If Herbalife was guilty of any wrong doing, they would have been shut down. They weren’t. Case closed. Except in the minds of Ackman and his nutty follower(s)

Some will remember that Herbalife faced a major challenge back in 1985. Prior to the media attack then, Herbalife’s sales were over $512 million annually and were up to over $90 million a month in January, 1985. After the media attack, Herbalife sales dropped all the way down to only $10 million annually.  This occurred in the 1980s. We all know Herbalife came roaring back. Also, I think that challenge was far more potent that what little weenie Ackman has offered. Herbalife is very resilent and has always proved that they are following the laws. Legal and ethical.

The FTC was yanked into this by Ackman via his buddy Sen. Markey.  What was the result? Ackman lost again and we haven’t heard from Sen. Markey. I wonder if he is still close friends with ACKMAN after this embarrassment???? And how about those two AGs who were such good buddies with Billy boy, where are they? Also been very quiet.

Sen. Markey may be eating ice cream cones, but he has had very little to do with his (former??) good buddy Billy boy Ackman

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As already mentioned, that FTC settlement to so called Herbalife “victims” has brought more former distributors and preferred members back to Herbalife and they are using that money to buy more Herbalife products.  So the settlement is actually being redirected back to Herbalife. Interesting. Or at least much of it.

Also, Herbalife as we all know has their WinBack program in place which has been very successful bringing back more former distributors and preferred members. And of course  Herbalife reps are hard at work building their businesses. I see the button “Lose Weight Now – Ask Me How” everywhere and Herbalife reps inviting people to their nutrition clubs. Speaking of which, I love the nutrition clubs. They are very powerful.

Another thing, spring is always the best time of the year for Herbalife as people are focusing on losing weight for summer and warm weather season. Expect sales to SOAR. And there are ads all over for Herbalife. Not to mention that Herblaife’s product line goes beyond just weight loss to sports supplements, wellness products, skin care and more.  All of these things are positives and I expect Herbalife to have a OUTSTANDING 2nd quarter.

The squeeze on Ackman tightened up considerably last Thursday. Expect to get even tighter.  MOASS is here.

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I also enjoy playing with quoththeraven aka Chris Irons, Ackman, his braindead shills and the stupid and ignorant HLF shorts.  Every single time they open their mouths via the internet with outrageus, ridiculous “what ifs”  and “maybes” Doom & Gloom predictions, yet they are always wrong and I am always right. I look forward to doing it again next quarter and watching them be oh sooo wrong yet again. My guess is that Ackman will be gone by then. But this guy will continue. I guess he really needs that $35 an article and a penny per click from the garbage he writes on SA.

Hey Chris, so there is no hard feelings, I have  some friends in Philly who may be able to help you. They are looking for a gardener and someone to mow their lawn. Probably will pay better than writing garbage on Seeking alpha and more ethical than promoting Pump & Dump pennystock junk. Of course, this is assuming you really do live in Philly and are fit enough to    run a lawn mower and do  garndening work.  Do you really live in Philly? Perhaps that is total bull too.

Ackmanaholics and shills are really funny.  No matter  how many times they are wrong, which is everytime, they still maintain they are right and think they can manipulate t he market with their b.s.  It never works! They are like the guy who hits himself on the head with a hammer. He should only have to do that one time to realize, “Ouch, that hurts.”

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Herbalife had great earnings as I and so many other experienced investors indicated long before earnings was announced. I made it obvious that I was long a week before and was expecting great earnings. I increased my POS on HLF, bought calls, sold puts and bought more shares. And do you know how many companies would love to have the numbers that Herbalife produced on Thursday? Do you know how many MLM companies would love to acquire 83,276 new distributors just in North America in 1 yr and without the noise and distraction of that lunatic Ackman???

Clearly, what Herbalife did on Thursday was nothing short of mind boggling.

BTW, here are some of my other holdings. Obviously, I can’t put an image of my account on here.  I know how to invest successfully. Unlike Ackman and Chris Irons. BTW, did you know that even though Chris Irons along with his idol Ackman, makes wise cracks about Herbalife reps, calls them “get rich quick money hungry scam artists” Do you know how he makes his living? He is a PUMPnDUMP pennsystock promoter.

And interesting too, in another tweet that I received made by Chris Irons aka quoththeraven, he indicates he wants the name calling stopped but then proceeds to name call Michael O. Johnson and new Herbalife CEO. Well, well. Those of us who ever read his stuff have come to expect this.  No surprise.

Hey Chris, my friends in Philly really are looking for someone to mow their grass and be their gardener. At least this would allow you to make an honest living, for a change.  And no doubt more $$$ than what you make now. IF you are healthy enough to do it that is.stock-photo-cute-man-mowing-lawn-in-the-backyard-of-his-house-191098076

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Ackman’s BLUFF not working

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Herbalife Bulls still in charge. Ackman is barely holding on to his reckless HLF short position by his fingernails.

 

Billy boy Ackman, the modern day version of PT Barnum sure knows how to excite the naive, the newbies, the “rookies” but  does he ever follow through? Nope. Case in point, the 2014 “Herbalife Deathblow” (hahahahahahahahahahahaha) It was a deathblow for Ackman and the shorts.

And more recently ‘Betting on Zero’ the cinematic informercial apparently financed by Ackman which as we predicted turned into a total bomb. Opened in 5 theaters, had a very short run and all theatres dropped it. Now it is available on netflix. But who cares?

“Betting on Zero’ is worthy of the “GOLDEN TURKEY AWARD” And the turkeys are still trying to hype it. Good luck, Turkey.

And even though it was a very low budget, inexpensively and poorly produced film seen by so few, ‘Betting on Zero’ qualifies to be on the “Hall of Shame” list. And appropiate for the “Golden Turkey Award”

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Also of interest is that Chris Irons aka quoththeraven (or is that quoththemoron) is always so anxious to debate someone. But how does he debate? He creates dozens upon dozens if not hundreds of aliases and then disseminates total b.s. trying to support his misguided thesis which is just a rehash of Ackman’s and Shane Dineen’s already debunked and disproven thesis.  Irons is just a broke version of Ackman. A lot of hot air and no  substance…….ever. There is a rumor that he is moving his one man operation quoththeraven research (LOL) out of his mobile home and into his parents basement.

While I would never want to play poker against Bill Ackman, he maintains a great poker face and bullsh’ts so much,   it is soooo easy to predict his fake outs in the stock market. He knows how to bluff and has been deservedly been called “A Modern Day Version of PT Barnum.”

And he has his shills writing garbage on blogs like “Traders piling on short interest” A few years ago the storyline read, “AGs piling on Herbalife” Fact: There were two AGs that went after Herbalife, both were friends of Ackman and both dropped their complaints after it became evident that Ackman was full of crap.

The short interest on HLF is 90%+ Ackman. He is hoping to bring in more traders (suckers) to help save his unsavable and reckless HLF short play. Never fear. Ackman will lose. Just like VRX.

Ackman continues to say he is bearish on HLF and will maintain his HLF short play ’till the ends of the earth’ or did he mean the end of Pershing Square?  The end of Pershing Sq  will come first. Say hello to Gotham Partners II.

How worried am I about Ackman and his lies? I have been long for 10 years now. Am still long and in fact increased my HLF position. Bought more shares of HLF and LEAPS (calls) and sold LEAPS (puts) I see HLF as being very oversold.

As for the latest “news” about Herbalife, insiders selling and some execs leaving, HELLO??? This happens everyday in America and around the world. execs leave for a lot of reasons and insiders sell. Many times, insiders sell and then buy back in later. Not a big deal for those of us who have been in the game for awhile, Newbies, rookies and those who know better but lie, lie, lie tell a different story.

A CHALLENGE TO BILL ACKMAN: Put Up or Shut Up!

Earlier this week Ackman shouted that he is still bearish on HLF and so convinced that Herbalife is a “pyramid scheme” and cratering that he picked up more short shares.  Unfortunately there is no proof that he shorted anymore at all. Not even with Persh Sq.

And this is so much like PT Ackman. Last February, he told us he was so bullish on VRX and so confident in the ownership, the products, the company and that it was a strong turn around candidate that he was going to buy even more shares. Now we know he doubled down on VRX A COUPLE of times and did buy more shares as VRX was cratering. But this wasn’t the case in February. What happened? After shooting his mouth off, Ackman dumped his whole load of VRX selling everything to the tune of a massive $4 BILLION LOSS!

But hey he said he was bullish and buying more right? Like I and many others have been saying for years. Ackman is a lying fraud. His word is not his bond. He will do the same to HLF shorts. Tell you he is shorting more in the hope that he will convince some suckers to go short and longs to sell and then he will cover and run for the hills.

Simple challenge Billy boy. If you are truly convinced that Herbalife is in as deep of trouble as you try to suggest, then by all means SHORT MORE HLF stock. IN fact bet the house on HLF short play. Bet everything you have. Why not if you think Herbalife is falling apart. But ah, you won’t because Billy boy we know that you really intend to cover a.s.a.p and that Herbalife is NOT in any real trouble. You know that as well no matter what you try to imply.

How about it Billy boy. Put up or shut up.

Even I have to admit, Billy Ackman certaintly deserves the title, “Modern Day Version of PT Barnum.” Nobody in the investment world puts on a better show than PT Ackman. And he is all show and no go.

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For the past 2 1/2 years we have been hearing from Ackman what a great investment he made in Valeant. Great company. Strong team. Great leadership. Great products. ENT! What really happened? Stock continued to fall and the more it fell the more PT Ackman continued to hype it and he even doubled down. He bought more. VRX dropped again. And PT Ackman bought more.

Up untill February, Ackman said he was very bullish on VRX as a stock and Valeant as a company. But. In February he exited with little notice and only after still saying he was bullish earlier that day.

By the way, Ackman took a $4 billion loss on that reckless trade that he was so bullish on and kept trying to persuade (sucker) other investors to come into. Now he is trying to sucker other investors to come in to rescue his reckless HLF short play.

That brings us to Herbalife (HLF) we all know that Ackman loudly and proudly proclaimed that he is so certain that Herbalife (HLF) is going to fall, that he shorted more. WOW! What a guy! What bravado!

But doesn’t this sound all too familiar? How many times does Billy boy have to cry wolf before the suckers pick up on it?

Did we forget the 2014 Ackman informercial titled “Herbalife Death Blow” (hahahahahaha) the day that HLF stock rallied 26% even though Billy boy was telling us it is all over?

Personally, as a HLF long, I am thrilled that Ackman is talking about shorting more. All that means is more profits for we longs when he finally has to cover.  And we all know by now that the short interest on HLF is primarily Ackman. 90% or more. So please Billy boy, increase it some more will you?

Ackman is barely hanging on to his extremely reckless HLF short play

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Hey Billy Boy Ackman, here is a challenge for you. If you truly believe as you want the naive shorts and Ackman followers to believe that it is all over for Herbalife, that HLF stock is truly going to zero, why not bet more? Why not take all of your liquid cash and put it all on shorting HLF? Really push that short interest up there.

Right now short interest on HLF is lower than it was in 2013. Why not push it to new record highs Billy boy. Only with your money. Use Pershing Squares assets. I mean whatever assets you have left.  We all know that your assets with Persh Sq have dropped by more than 50%. So what do you have to lose? Put it all on.

And don’t stop there, why not mortgage your home, your vacation home, use your own money too. That is whatever you have left since your 9 figure divorce.

Hey Billy boy, fair challenge. If you truly are as sure as you try to pretend to, up the bet. Show some bravado. Then go on CNBC and spread more bullsh’t. Somebody may believe it.

And then  when HLF goes over $100, we all will be laughing hysterically at you.  I promise you that the longer you hold on to your reckless HLF short bet, the more you will lose. VRX will look like petty cash compared to the losses you will incur by staying short on HLF. As I am sure you are aware, when you short a stock the LOSSES ARE UNLIMITED!!!!!!!!

C’mon Billy boy. Bet the house. Show you are a real man. Show us your conviction. And then the market will show you another $4 BILLION+ LOSS for your stupidity.

You know, when I created this handle, I never realized how accurate it would be.  You are the king of scam artists.  And anyone who has followed you pre-Herbalife as I have, know full well that you are no investment genius. In fact, quite the opposite.

Calling Bill Ackman on his bluff

While I would never want to play poker against Bill Ackman,  it is soooo easy to predict his fake outs in the stock market. He knows how to bluff and has been deservedly been called “A Modern Day Version of PT Barnum.”

And he has his shills writing garbage on blogs like “Traders piling on short interest” A few years ago the storyline read, “AGs piling on Herbalife” Fact: There were two AGs that went after Herbalife, both were friends of Ackman and both dropped their complaints after it became evident that Ackman was full of crap.

The short interest on HLF is 90%+ Ackman. He is hoping to bring in more traders (suckers) to help save his unsavable and reckless HLF short play. Never fear. Ackman will lose. Just like VRX.

Ackman continues to say he is bearish on HLF and will maintain his HLF short play ’till the ends of the earth’ or the end of Pershing Square which will come first.

How worried am I about Ackman and his lies? I have been long for 10 years now. Am still long and in fact increased my HLF position. Bought LEAPS (calls) and sold LEAPS (puts) I see HLF as being very oversold.

As for the latest “news” about Herbalife, insiders selling and some execs leaving, HELLO??? This happens everyday in America and around the world. execs leave for a lot of reasons and insiders sell. Many times, insiders sell and then buy back in later. Not a big deal for those of us who have been in the game for awhile, Newbies, rookies and those who know better but lie, lie, lie tell a different story.

A CHALLENGE TO BILL ACKMAN: Put Up or Shut Up!

Earlier this week Ackman shouted that he is still bearish on HLF and so convinced that Herbalife is a “pyramid scheme” and cratering that he picked up more short shares.  Unfortunately there is no proof that he shorted anymore at all. Not even with Persh Sq.

And this is so much like PT Ackman. Last February, he told us he was so bullish on VRX and so confident in the ownership, the products, the company and that it was a strong turn around candidate that he was going to buy even more shares. Now we know he doubled down on VRX A COUPLE of times and did buy more shares as VRX was cratering. But this wasn’t the case in February. What happened? After shooting his mouth off, Ackman dumped his whole load of VRX selling everything to the tune of a massive $4 BILLION LOSS!

But hey he said he was bullish and buying more right? Like I and many others have been saying for years. Ackman is a lying fraud. His word is not his bond. He will do the same to HLF shorts. Tell you he is shorting more in the hope that he will convince some suckers to go short and longs to sell and then he will cover and run for the hills.

Simple challenge Billy boy. If you are truly convinced that Herbalife is in as deep of trouble as you try to suggest, then by all means SHORT MORE HLF stock. IN fact bet the house on HLF short play. Bet everything you have. Why not if you think Herbalife is falling apart. But ah, you won’t because Billy boy we know that you really intend to cover a.s.a.p and that Herbalife is NOT in any real trouble. You know that as well no matter what you try to imply.

How about it Billy boy. Put up or shut up.

Even I have to admit, Billy Ackman certaintly deserves the title, “Modern Day Version of PT Barnum.” Nobody in the investment world puts on a better show than PT Ackman. And he is all show and no go.

http://www.therealbillackman.com

For the past 2 1/2 years we have been hearing from Ackman what a great investment he made in Valeant. Great company. Strong team. Great leadership. Great products. ENT! What really happened? Stock continued to fall and the more it fell the more PT Ackman continued to hype it and he even doubled down. He bought more. VRX dropped again. And PT Ackman bought more.

Up untill February, Ackman said he was very bullish on VRX as a stock and Valeant as a company. But. In February he exited with little notice and only after still saying he was bullish earlier that day.

By the way, Ackman took a $4 billion loss on that reckless trade that he was so bullish on and kept trying to persuade (sucker) other investors to come into. Now he is trying to sucker other investors to come in to rescue his reckless HLF short play.

That brings us to Herbalife (HLF) we all know that Ackman loudly and proudly proclaimed that he is so certain that Herbalife (HLF) is going to fall, that he shorted more. WOW! What a guy! What bravado!

But doesn’t this sound all too familiar? How many times does Billy boy have to cry wolf before the suckers pick up on it?

Did we forget the 2014 Ackman informercial titled “Herbalife Death Blow” (hahahahahaha) the day that HLF stock rallied 26% even though Billy boy was telling us it is all over?

Personally, as a HLF long, I am thrilled that Ackman is talking about shorting more. All that means is more profits for we longs when he finally has to cover.  And we all know by now that the short interest on HLF is primarily Ackman. 90% or more. So please Billy boy, increase it some more will you?

Ackman is barely hanging on to his extremely reckless HLF short play

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Hey Billy Boy Ackman, here is a challenge for you. If you truly believe as you want the naive shorts and Ackman followers to believe that it is all over for Herbalife, that HLF stock is truly going to zero, why not bet more? Why not take all of your liquid cash and put it all on shorting HLF? Really push that short interest up there.

Right now short interest on HLF is lower than it was in 2013. Why not push it to new record highs Billy boy. Only with your money. Use Pershing Squares assets. I mean whatever assets you have left.  We all know that your assets with Persh Sq have dropped by more than 50%. So what do you have to lose? Put it all on.

And don’t stop there, why not mortgage your home, your vacation home, use your own money too. That is whatever you have left since your 9 figure divorce.

Hey Billy boy, fair challenge. If you truly are as sure as you try to pretend to, up the bet. Show some bravado. Then go on CNBC and spread more bullsh’t. Somebody may believe it.

And then  when HLF goes over $100, we all will be laughing hysterically at you.  I promise you that the longer you hold on to your reckless HLF short bet, the more you will lose. VRX will look like petty cash compared to the losses you will incur by staying short on HLF. As I am sure you are aware, when you short a stock the LOSSES ARE UNLIMITED!!!!!!!!

C’mon Billy boy. Bet the house. Show you are a real man. Show us your conviction. And then the market will show you another $4 BILLION+ LOSS for your stupidity.

You know, when I created this handle, I never realized how accurate it would be.  You are the king of scam artists.  And anyone who has followed you pre-Herbalife as I have, know full well that you are no investment genius. In fact, quite the opposite.

If Herbalife brings LT—-Larry Thompson back, sparks will fly and Herbalife will once again experience a 1980s type of surge

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I vividly recall the 1980s. Those Herbalife informercials were all over the airwaves especially on USA on Sunday nights. Herbalife was the rage. Everyone was talking about it.

And I have to admit, I wasn’t sold on it at that time. To me, it looked more like a religious revival meeting peppered with some Amway. I was not into MLM or network marketing at that time. Was like so many stupid, ignorant out of touch people who thought I knew it all when in reality I knew nothing.

I thought MLM was all a scam or a pyramid scheme. And I thought that all you have to do to lose weight is eat less and exercise. Boy was I in lala land.

When the Herbalife TV show came on I watched it several times mostly for entertainment.  At first I thought it was a comedy show.  I saw the CEO and founder of  Herbalife, Mark Hughes. He seemed too smooth. Too much of a fast talker. In fact, back then I frequently referred to him as a “snake oil salesman”  Looking back, he reminds me a lot of what Bill Ackman really is, except, Hughes was handsome, had an incredible head of hair, looked fit, was tanned and radiant. By contrast, Ackman is wrinkled, grey, average looking, thin but not athletic looking and anemic.

Many years later I would become part of Herbalife, something which I thought would never happen in the 1980s and met many people who knew Hughes. Their reviews on Hughes was much different. At worst, they would say he was flamboyant.  But how they idolized this guy. And to be fair, if it wasn’t for Hughes, Herbalife would never have been created and I along with so many other HLF longs would have missed out on a totally AWESOME investment opportunity. So thank you Mark Hughes.

Moving on, the one person who stood out to me, who showed class and professionalism was a blonde haired dynamo named LT-Larry Thompson.

 

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He was the MC for most of the program and explained Herbalife very well. Then he went on to introduce the various Herbalife people, customers and distributors.

In 2007 I became a HLF long. In 2011, my wife and I began eating the Herbalife products and still use them everyday to this day. In 2014 we became Herbalife distributors.  However, in 2012, I began seriously researching Herbalife after the Ackman attack. I am no blind follower. I wanted to find out the facts about Herbalife and if it was truly a scam as Ackman had incorrectly suggested, I would be out in a NY second.

As I went to meetings and met many other Herbalife people, I began to get the real dope on Herbalife. There was no one here trying to fast talk me or anyone into the business or sell supervisor $4,000 packages. They raved about the products and the opportunity and suggested that we come in where we were comfortable.

I was just observing at this time.

In 2014, my wife and I joined the business. We did not “buy in” and were grateful that no one suggested that. We worked our way to supervisor level and built our group.

Anyway, it was at this time that I continued to hear more and more about Larry Thompson.  Some one gave me access to his audio and video training.  Apparently, even though Larry was no longer with Herbalife in 2014, serious distributors were still following his training system. And with massive results.

We started to follow his training ideas and also got massive results.

Here is what the Wall Street Journal said about Larry Thompson:

The Wall Street Journal called Larry Thompson, “the architect of Wealthbuilding” for good reason. Larry Thompson has a 40 years track record of helping “everyday, average people” who have desire, willingness, and teachability to become the best they can be – often becoming millionaires as a result.

Larry developed the Wealth Building mentoring system over 20 years ago. It is still the most sought after training in the direct sales and networking industry due to its classic, timeless principles. More than teaching just successful business skills, Wealthbuilding is applicable to all areas of your life.

 

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How true indeed. I found that by using LTs training system, not only did our Herbalife business surge, so did everything in our personal  and professional lives.

I would find out that Larry was mentored by the late, great Jim Rohn.  It is easy to see the Jim Rohn in Larry.  LT may be the closest person on earth to be as great a trainer as JR was.

Now I don’t know if LT has any desire to come back to Herbalife. Not sure if he even wants to. Hard to believe that he would say no if offered. And I don’t know if Herbalife has any plans to bring him back, but as I stated above, if that ever happened, Herbalife would see another 1980s type of surge in their business.  And it would be the final nail in Ackmans casket, relevant to the Herbalife-Ackman scenario.

Many people feel that Larry Thompson played a much bigger role in sponsoring and developing distributors than even founder Mark Hughes.

Anyway, If Larry did come back home, it would be a  great day for Herbalife and previous records would fall faster than Ackman’s net worth.  And Ackman would crap a brick for sure.  It would surely be the end of Ackman

About Victor Dergunov who has a FAKE NEWS anti-Herbalife story on Seeking Alpha today………

As I predicted last March, even after Betting On Zero bombed, the bashings on Herbalife and attacks on HLF stock would continue. Even more so as HLF stock is still rallying despite the unwarranted attacks.

The newest attack on HLF came out today on SEEKING ALPHA (surprised??? I’m not. Who else would publish this garbage? No one)  by Victor Dergunov.

While he makes some interesting points, he is also so blatantly one sided and seems to deliberately omit many things.  Like the role that the payment of the $200 million fine had on HLF’s p/e ratio.  Is Victor that naive or deliberately lying? Remember, this story was on Seeking Alpha, not known  for revealing facts, truth or in dealing with reality.

He mentions the high short interest but fails to mention this is primarily Ackman’s short interest. So many other shorts have bailed.  And herein lies the reason for Victor’s involvement. To try to save Ackman’s A**. Sorry. Ackman is going down. Count on it.

More on Victor though. While I am by no means a fan of seeking alpha., interesting that Victor has a 1/2 of one star rating there.  He is Ranked #5,379 out of 6,006 Bloggers on TipRanks (#9,437 out of 10,586 overall experts) That is about as close to last place as you can get. Not too impressive if you ask me.

He has had only 12 out of 40 ratings successful.  I repeat, only 12 out of 40 ratings were successful with a success rate of only 30%. His average return is -5.7% per rating. Does this sound like someone you need to be listening to? Nope. But does it sound like a typical short/Ackman follower? Absolutely! 

And while throughout his story he keeps repeating that Herbalife is “reforming it’s marketing strategy” he fails to acknowledge that Herbalife since Day 1  has been primarily focused on acquiring customers, building a strong retail base. So what Herbalife is doing now is nothing new.

Victor also fails to acknowledge that attacks on Herbalife have been relentless over the last 4 1/2 going on 5 years. Unwarranted FTC investigations. Mass negative  publicity. Ackman’s drama and dog & pony show, the frequent FAKE NEWS stories on Seeking Alpha, Blogs, Personal websites and more.  Any other company would have  folded for sure. Ackman sure tried. That is he tried and failed badly.

So now he has 1/2 star rated flunkies writing bogus stories and rehashing the same failed Ackman thesis that has been debunked over and over and over.

Victor ends his story by stating he is short. I am curious as to how much of a short position he  has, what, 3-5 put contracts? But considering that he is short, is it any wonder that he writes such jibberesh?