Ackman’s BLUFF not working


Herbalife Bulls still in charge. Ackman is barely holding on to his reckless HLF short position by his fingernails.


Billy boy Ackman, the modern day version of PT Barnum sure knows how to excite the naive, the newbies, the “rookies” but  does he ever follow through? Nope. Case in point, the 2014 “Herbalife Deathblow” (hahahahahahahahahahahaha) It was a deathblow for Ackman and the shorts.

And more recently ‘Betting on Zero’ the cinematic informercial apparently financed by Ackman which as we predicted turned into a total bomb. Opened in 5 theaters, had a very short run and all theatres dropped it. Now it is available on netflix. But who cares?

“Betting on Zero’ is worthy of the “GOLDEN TURKEY AWARD” And the turkeys are still trying to hype it. Good luck, Turkey.

And even though it was a very low budget, inexpensively and poorly produced film seen by so few, ‘Betting on Zero’ qualifies to be on the “Hall of Shame” list. And appropiate for the “Golden Turkey Award”




Also of interest is that Chris Irons aka quoththeraven (or is that quoththemoron) is always so anxious to debate someone. But how does he debate? He creates dozens upon dozens if not hundreds of aliases and then disseminates total b.s. trying to support his misguided thesis which is just a rehash of Ackman’s and Shane Dineen’s already debunked and disproven thesis.  Irons is just a broke version of Ackman. A lot of hot air and no  substance…….ever. There is a rumor that he is moving his one man operation quoththeraven research (LOL) out of his mobile home and into his parents basement.

While I would never want to play poker against Bill Ackman, he maintains a great poker face and bullsh’ts so much,   it is soooo easy to predict his fake outs in the stock market. He knows how to bluff and has been deservedly been called “A Modern Day Version of PT Barnum.”

And he has his shills writing garbage on blogs like “Traders piling on short interest” A few years ago the storyline read, “AGs piling on Herbalife” Fact: There were two AGs that went after Herbalife, both were friends of Ackman and both dropped their complaints after it became evident that Ackman was full of crap.

The short interest on HLF is 90%+ Ackman. He is hoping to bring in more traders (suckers) to help save his unsavable and reckless HLF short play. Never fear. Ackman will lose. Just like VRX.

Ackman continues to say he is bearish on HLF and will maintain his HLF short play ’till the ends of the earth’ or did he mean the end of Pershing Square?  The end of Pershing Sq  will come first. Say hello to Gotham Partners II.

How worried am I about Ackman and his lies? I have been long for 10 years now. Am still long and in fact increased my HLF position. Bought more shares of HLF and LEAPS (calls) and sold LEAPS (puts) I see HLF as being very oversold.

As for the latest “news” about Herbalife, insiders selling and some execs leaving, HELLO??? This happens everyday in America and around the world. execs leave for a lot of reasons and insiders sell. Many times, insiders sell and then buy back in later. Not a big deal for those of us who have been in the game for awhile, Newbies, rookies and those who know better but lie, lie, lie tell a different story.


Earlier this week Ackman shouted that he is still bearish on HLF and so convinced that Herbalife is a “pyramid scheme” and cratering that he picked up more short shares.  Unfortunately there is no proof that he shorted anymore at all. Not even with Persh Sq.

And this is so much like PT Ackman. Last February, he told us he was so bullish on VRX and so confident in the ownership, the products, the company and that it was a strong turn around candidate that he was going to buy even more shares. Now we know he doubled down on VRX A COUPLE of times and did buy more shares as VRX was cratering. But this wasn’t the case in February. What happened? After shooting his mouth off, Ackman dumped his whole load of VRX selling everything to the tune of a massive $4 BILLION LOSS!

But hey he said he was bullish and buying more right? Like I and many others have been saying for years. Ackman is a lying fraud. His word is not his bond. He will do the same to HLF shorts. Tell you he is shorting more in the hope that he will convince some suckers to go short and longs to sell and then he will cover and run for the hills.

Simple challenge Billy boy. If you are truly convinced that Herbalife is in as deep of trouble as you try to suggest, then by all means SHORT MORE HLF stock. IN fact bet the house on HLF short play. Bet everything you have. Why not if you think Herbalife is falling apart. But ah, you won’t because Billy boy we know that you really intend to cover a.s.a.p and that Herbalife is NOT in any real trouble. You know that as well no matter what you try to imply.

How about it Billy boy. Put up or shut up.

Even I have to admit, Billy Ackman certaintly deserves the title, “Modern Day Version of PT Barnum.” Nobody in the investment world puts on a better show than PT Ackman. And he is all show and no go.

For the past 2 1/2 years we have been hearing from Ackman what a great investment he made in Valeant. Great company. Strong team. Great leadership. Great products. ENT! What really happened? Stock continued to fall and the more it fell the more PT Ackman continued to hype it and he even doubled down. He bought more. VRX dropped again. And PT Ackman bought more.

Up untill February, Ackman said he was very bullish on VRX as a stock and Valeant as a company. But. In February he exited with little notice and only after still saying he was bullish earlier that day.

By the way, Ackman took a $4 billion loss on that reckless trade that he was so bullish on and kept trying to persuade (sucker) other investors to come into. Now he is trying to sucker other investors to come in to rescue his reckless HLF short play.

That brings us to Herbalife (HLF) we all know that Ackman loudly and proudly proclaimed that he is so certain that Herbalife (HLF) is going to fall, that he shorted more. WOW! What a guy! What bravado!

But doesn’t this sound all too familiar? How many times does Billy boy have to cry wolf before the suckers pick up on it?

Did we forget the 2014 Ackman informercial titled “Herbalife Death Blow” (hahahahahaha) the day that HLF stock rallied 26% even though Billy boy was telling us it is all over?

Personally, as a HLF long, I am thrilled that Ackman is talking about shorting more. All that means is more profits for we longs when he finally has to cover.  And we all know by now that the short interest on HLF is primarily Ackman. 90% or more. So please Billy boy, increase it some more will you?

Ackman is barely hanging on to his extremely reckless HLF short play




Hey Billy Boy Ackman, here is a challenge for you. If you truly believe as you want the naive shorts and Ackman followers to believe that it is all over for Herbalife, that HLF stock is truly going to zero, why not bet more? Why not take all of your liquid cash and put it all on shorting HLF? Really push that short interest up there.

Right now short interest on HLF is lower than it was in 2013. Why not push it to new record highs Billy boy. Only with your money. Use Pershing Squares assets. I mean whatever assets you have left.  We all know that your assets with Persh Sq have dropped by more than 50%. So what do you have to lose? Put it all on.

And don’t stop there, why not mortgage your home, your vacation home, use your own money too. That is whatever you have left since your 9 figure divorce.

Hey Billy boy, fair challenge. If you truly are as sure as you try to pretend to, up the bet. Show some bravado. Then go on CNBC and spread more bullsh’t. Somebody may believe it.

And then  when HLF goes over $100, we all will be laughing hysterically at you.  I promise you that the longer you hold on to your reckless HLF short bet, the more you will lose. VRX will look like petty cash compared to the losses you will incur by staying short on HLF. As I am sure you are aware, when you short a stock the LOSSES ARE UNLIMITED!!!!!!!!

C’mon Billy boy. Bet the house. Show you are a real man. Show us your conviction. And then the market will show you another $4 BILLION+ LOSS for your stupidity.

You know, when I created this handle, I never realized how accurate it would be.  You are the king of scam artists.  And anyone who has followed you pre-Herbalife as I have, know full well that you are no investment genius. In fact, quite the opposite.

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